Last nail in the coffin?

HorseCreek

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With this recent big storm, and the "blizzard warning" for the entire state...Could this winter be what pushes the deer herd over the edge? Its early still but this is where Utah's lack of winter range is going to show!
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Well this post might upset alot of the mule deer doomsdayers but I watched well over 150 mule deer tonight from one location. More than a few were mature bucks chasing does. This was on the wasatch front. I would have to say that this year actually looks a little better than last in terms of quantity and quality. I think its a little early to throw dirt on the deer herd, at least from what I seen tonight. Also it is not uncommon to have some snow this time of year. It is what the weather is like in february and march that will determine winterkill.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-22-10 AT 07:32PM (MST)[p]My old Daddy used to tell me, "If you worry early, you'll get the hay up, so you can sleep easy with late spring snows and when the north wind blows".

Interesting how we all say we can't control the weather. How come the cow punchers and sheepmen don't loose all theirs to droughts, pestilence, and heavy snow? If I owned a herd of critters, domestic or not so domestic you can bet your back end I do all I could to make darn sure the weather was the least of my worries.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. What a concept!

DC
 
I'm thinking he means if you get a lot of snow NOW it a long ways to spring,
I hope DWR is prepared for along winter too.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
From my understanding, what kills most deer, young and old,
are the late snowstorms, especially those in early March.
If the snow blanket is to heavy on already mediocre winter
ranges, I can see already weakened animals dying in mass.
I hope the UDWR is up to the task of feeding these animals,
because if they are not, you are going to lose many genera-
tions of deer that will take years to replace and that is
IMO not a risk we should take!

ELDORADO
 
at this point the deer are in their wintering ground and should be fairly safe. as long as the snow doesnt cover the sagebrush we should be ok. the thing that really kills the herds is when they leave the wintering ground to begin their spring migration and get hit by a late storm. i base this on the fact that i spend a lot of time hunting predators in the winter and spring and always find more winterkilled deer in the migration routes than i do down low on the wintering range. seems to me the deer go chasin the fresh grass in the early spring and when it snows over they dont have other available food sources. big storms are never good for a wintering deer though so dont think im tryin to tell ya they are all warm and cozy
 
its not the hard winter that is going to kill our deer it the them damn coyotes. just kidding
 
I know its not the early storms that kill the deer. I'm just sayin it doesn't look good with all the early snow. Hopefully it doesn't continue like this all winter or it will be a bad year. I went for a ride tonight to find some deer and elk. I saw a ton of deer and only a few small bucks. All the fresh tracks had yote tracks following them. I'm gonna do my part with the predators this year!
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