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These are some pics that Blackhawk357 sent me to post up for him. They were all killed in Montana.
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Enjoy!

Matt
 
Nice bucks......it's amazing what a $X,XXX tresspass fee and some private ground will get you durring the rut with a rifle.


"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"
 
Yes, it's private ground. And 2 of them were harvested in the rut. It's a fair chase hunt and these guys work their buts off for them. No matter where you are, you don't shoot these kind of animals from the truck!!!
 
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Great bucks, no matter where they are! Hey Blackhawk357, I sent you a PM.

copple2
 
I know the ranch very well that these bucks came off of. The youth deer was taken this year in the two days before the regular season. The non typical scored over 230 and was taken last year the first day of the season. At one point the deer herd was about decemated on this ranch. The owners have worked their tails off to bring it back to what it is now. Proper management and light pressure allow the genetics to shine through.
 
No attitude......just wish Montana would shut down the general season 3 weeks before they do, that's all. I cover most of the state for work and there could be WAY more deer than there are. That being said....what's cooler? To see a group of mature deer on the ground by people who have put the time in and worked hard on public land or pictures of deer that were on private ground and shot in the rut in an area that sees little no hunting pressure? Both and legal and ethical...but what's cooler? When I have the money I am going to a private ranch down by Birney and pound a toad, but I will never be as proud as my first P&Y buck on public land.

"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-23-10 AT 03:48PM (MST)[p]Whats cooler? Having a shot a mature buck! I have hunted public in Montana east and west and I am not impressed with it. Congrats on being a resident now, have you killed a 170 plus in your four year tenure on public?

I have a friend in Missoula who is a great hunter, he kills 150 muleys and 130 whities on public and free trespass private.

If I have 5 days of hunting in Montana no way would I do it any other way than those guys did. We don't all live there like you.

That said, I'm not sure you have the genetics anyways. If they shortened the season how much more crowded would your public land be? People would kill everything before it ever got a chance to grow cause there would not be time to hold out.


Look at 270 lately.

I say thank the rancher for having a quality hunting ranch he is harboring game year round and caring for the resource.

Sorry, for my vacation I think I will shoot em when there dumb and on private!
 
Go search my 2010 archery buck. Just shy of 185 gross in september on public land. That's not the point. Point is too many guys go out one weekend here and the next weekend there and if they don't see anything they like they shot a 2.5 year old buck out with some does Thanksgiving weekend. You can only be in one place at a time. A shorter season will spread guys out. I have had 4 seasons in MT and the latest I have had a tag was Nov 1rst. A 155 buck with a rifle. Pretty buck but he was with some does and I still don't feel like a bad a** for doing it. If hunting mule in the rut is such a good idea then why is montana the only state with a general season rifle hunt in the rut? Just think how many nice mature bucks there could be with all the land up here. You wouldn't have to pay to access private.


"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"
 
Colorado has rut hunts but micro manages units as do other states. Montana is an oppertunity state for the most part.

And there just is no way a shorter season will spread guys out! Its restricting not spreading out! Less time equals more people in the same place at the same time, period.

With that many tags private will always be better than public no matter what.

Just don't go onto a poor guys thread and bash his buck. Start your own topic.

Canyon.
 
Thanks for all the kind words everyone, and Merry Christmas!!!

Everyone has their own ideas about what is the best way to hunt, and as long as it is ethical I have no problems with them. Stubaby, I respect your opinion about how you like to hunt and what you value, but if these private land hunts were not available many honset, ethical hunters would not have an opportunity to endulge in the sport they love. As one of the other posters said, the opportunity here was almost completely gone 15 years ago. I honestly believe that a change in management is the only reason these kind of bucks are here now.

Blackhawk
 
>No attitude......just wish Montana would shut
>down the general season 3
>weeks before they do, that's
>all. I cover most
>of the state for work
>and there could be WAY
>more deer than there are.
> That being said....what's cooler?
> To see a group
>of mature deer on the
>ground by people who have
>put the time in and
>worked hard on public land
>or pictures of deer that
>were on private ground and
>shot in the rut in
>an area that sees little
>no hunting pressure? Both
>and legal and ethical...but what's
>cooler? When I have
>the money I am going
>to a private ranch down
>by Birney and pound a
>toad, but I will never
>be as proud as my
>first P&Y buck on public
>land.
>
>"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"

Why dont you just mind your own Fn business,weve been running our season this way for over 60 years without your vast wisdom.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-24-10 AT 09:16PM (MST)[p]>Go search my 2010 archery buck.
>Just shy of 185 gross
>in september on public land.
>That's not the point. Point
>is too many guys go
>out one weekend here and
>the next weekend there and
>if they don't see anything
>they like they shot a
>2.5 year old buck out
>with some does Thanksgiving weekend.
> You can only be
>in one place at a
>time. A shorter season
>will spread guys out.
>I have had 4 seasons
>in MT and the latest
>I have had a tag
>was Nov 1rst. A 155
>buck with a rifle. Pretty
>buck but he was with
>some does and I still
>don't feel like a bad
>a** for doing it.
>If hunting mule in the
>rut is such a good
>idea then why is montana
>the only state with a
>general season rifle hunt in
>the rut? Just think
>how many nice mature bucks
>there could be with all
>the land up here. You
>wouldn't have to pay to
>access private.
>
>
>"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"
Your a bonified moron,how will this spread hunters out???Most mature deer dont rut until well after the season anyhow,maybe if you left the couch after the last weekend you would see the big boys that come down to rut later....luckily we dont have dipshits like you running the F&G commission and things will stay the way they have been for years to come.Just love how everybody has their own idea on how mT should run the hunting season to fit their needs/ideals,just dont hunt here and you wont have to deal with our horrendous seasons.
 
Nonya leave the insults out....they make you sound like a first class jackass. Stu and Canyon are having a nice discussion and it doesnt need insults to spoof it up...aside from being off topic on the thread, it is nice to read until it gets to your posts lumping people into the moron and dipshit category.....we have our opinions and we are entitled to them. with that said my opinion of you is going down hill fast. Say your piece and leave it be. Just my opinion tho.
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Oh and with that being said MERRY CHRISTMAS ya'll. It is after all the day and a good one it has been! Hope it has been good for you Nonya, Stu, canyon and all others who post here.
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Nice bucks reguardless of where it was shot.

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How is shooting a deer off private land less honorable than shoting it off public land. The biggest deer I've ever taken was on taken public land in MT, but I don' hunt the area anymore. Instead, I like the relationships I've developed with the local landowners and the privelage of being trusted to hunt they're property. That in itself is more rewarding than even harvetsing a deer. With that being said though, I will never pay anyone to one private land. It seems to me most people who are against the private land hunters, have never put forth the effort to gain access.

Also, the comment about MT not having the genetics is absurd. The genetics are here, just not the age structure. Most 4 pt mule deer harvested are 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 year old deer, and do have pretty good sized horns for a deer that young, but that has nothin to do with genetics being the reason big deer aren't being shot. Just imagine what would happen if they could get 3 or 4 more years on them. Closing the season early would not help either, there are areas that this occurs in and the deer are no bigger than any other areas, and actually seem to be worse, in my opinion (mainly because of they pressure they receive). So saying all the big bucks are killed during the rut is ridiculous in itself. Something needs to be done though, maybe a draw system, for instance, like Canada has. It's amazing that wihin a matter of miles, along the border, our northern cousins grow huge bucks, and we can't. If I am correct they hunt during the rut in Canada, too. The genetics are here, we just shoot them as soon as they get 4 points.

I think the problem we have here is that our F&G manages for "opportunities" and not quality opportunities. More tags issued means more opportunities. Which, in itself is probably the worst thing at this moment that could be done, as it seems like in most areas the mule deer herd is suffering.

Anyway, I completely diverged from the original intention of this post but some of the comments have gottem me a little stirred up.

Congrats on the nice deer.
 
Very nice Montana bucks, it is good that the landowner is doing his own management. I am sure that will benefit all of the deer on the public around the ranch also,

Rich
 
>Nonya leave the insults out....they make
>you sound like a first
>class jackass. Stu and
>Canyon are having a nice
>discussion and it doesnt need
>insults to spoof it up...aside
>from being off topic on
>the thread, it is nice
>to read until it gets
>to your posts lumping people
>into the moron and dipshit
>category.....we have our opinions and
>we are entitled to them.
> with that said my
>opinion of you is going
>down hill fast. Say
>your piece and leave it
>be. Just my opinion
>tho.
>
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beyoned making yourself look like a total hypocrite who convinced you your opinion of me matters one bit?You just said we are allowed our opinions and in the same breath told me to keep mine to myself...nice!
 
Im so fed up with people moving here,hunting a year and then deciding they are going to fix our hunting regs for us,it has been this way for years for a reason,IT WORKS.We arnt going to shutdown the rut hunt because you only hunt archery and dont want any rifle hunters taking nice bucks.
 
Berry if you don't like the rut hunt then move somewhere that doesn't have one and hunt there.
 
last time i checked, i didn't say anything about mt hunts. never hunted there probably never will. Nonya, if you read the last line in my post, and if i remember correctly it read quote 'say your piece and leave it' unquote i didn't ask you not to post i just said leave out the insults. Most people have a pretty intelligent thing to say around here i'm probably not one of them......but i do respect what others think and hope that they get a fair opportunity to say it without being berated or cut because some other genius thinks they could be the next God of hunting. I've read and respected both stu and canyon for a few YEARS now and believe that both of them have good points.......all i'm asking is that you respect them and what they have to say. Is that clear enough????
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Sounds like I missed a party over Christmas. Like I said..I travel most of the state for work and if the regulations that have been in place for years are so great, then why do the 250+ customers I visit from Broadus to Glasgow to Rudyard to West Yellowstone and everywhere in between keep saying that they see less mature bucks and less deer overall than ever before. If you have any better ideas then lets hear it. Good for the people who have big ranches. Go kill a buck that doesn't know to run away from the ranch truck. If you feel that it was worth the effort than great. Have at it. Nonetheless, a 170 buck on public land will trump a 170 buck on private any day and an archery buck the same size will always trump a rifle buck. So once you have had your fill of target practice go pick up a bow and hone in your HUNTING skills.

"That's a special feeling, Lloyd"
 
YIKES ! I think someone needs an enema. Nice bucks - congratulations ( whether they were on public or private, with bow or gun, in september or november, in Colorado or Montana, shot by residents or non residents )HAPPY NEW YEAR. Chip.
 
Wow! I'm having fun, how bout you guys? Stu, I just want you to explain to me one thing and then I'll quit. If it was a shorter season, how would there be less pressure and or crowding?
 
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Sorry but I have no respect for anyone who thinks they are going to move here and decide things need to be changed to fit their hunting ethics or make things the same as wherever they sprung from,if you dont like it hunt somewhere else.Your ideas dont make any sense to anyone but you,your not concerned about the herd or hunters your concerned about the way you want to do things.Archery hunters get an early start when the bucks are plenty stupid,rifle hunters get a chance at a rut IF it happens in time.This has worked for many years and its not going to change unless there comes a need for it,you not liking it doesnt qualify.Maybe the fact that we have 10,000 outfitters/subguides leasing up every acre they can get and shooting out the decent public spots of every immature buck they can find has something to do with the lack of older deer?Maybe these people shouls stop leasing their places out and manage the herds themselves so the deer have a chance to get mature.Maybe its the 8000 OoS's that show up here every year and shoot anything with horns just to make sure they dont go home empty handed?Maybe its predators?Maybe it has something to do with the fact that MT is one of the only states where hunter numbers are on the rise?Maybe the MD are in a nation wide downswing?Nope has to be that last 2 weeks of our season that has been in place for the last 100 years,thats the culprit!You really think deer stay on one spread?they never wander off into public land?One buck is les of a trophy because he lived on private land with an owner who manages the herd? Are you sure they arnt just telling you theres no deer so you dont hit them up for access?That NEVER happens to outsiders around here!;)Why dont you write up a proposition for the F&G commission and let them know how you feel about their messed up seasons,Im sure they will be more than happy to change everything to suit your needs after your extensive research who could say NO?Deer numbers are actually up in my areas,their numbers fluctuate due to many things that change from year to year,something that hasnt changed in recent history is our season,so your reasoning is pretty much ridiculous.
 

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