Have a question on velvet deer horn

nebo

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If I get a buck in velvet and want to that off the velvet what will it look like and will the horn look ok? Will it have the bumps and texture of a hard horn? I don't have the money to get it done right so just wondering.
 
In my experience, the horn will be yellowish and really ugly. Depending on how close he was to rubbing it off, the shape should be pretty similar to a normal hard horn. The color will not be right though, maybe someone has recolored a velvet buck but I would say don't take off the velvet until you have a tried and true way to get it right. Check the taxidermy forum of MM too.
 
The only velvet bucks I've seen killed have been darn close to rubbing. The velvet actually comes off really easy and there is a bone white colour underneath. I did have one that turned pink because I had cut the skull plate and left blood on it and it seemed to suck that blood up into the antlers when I hung it to dry. Was easy to fix with some coats of peroxicide. I actually think the bone white look is cool. Especially with a European skull mount.
 
>The only velvet bucks I've seen
>killed have been darn close
>to rubbing. The velvet actually
>comes off really easy and
>there is a bone white
>colour underneath. I did have
>one that turned pink because
>I had cut the skull
>plate and left blood on
>it and it seemed to
>suck that blood up into
>the antlers when I hung
>it to dry. Was easy
>to fix with some coats
>of peroxicide. I actually think
>the bone white look is
>cool. Especially with a European
>skull mount.


I just want to do a European mount as well. It would be nice to have one in velvet but to much money tied up for me. I do euro mounts anymore. I would like to try punching a hole in the tips and let the blood run out to see if I could keep the velvet on. I don't want to ruin the horn.
 
I have a friend who killed a nice bull a few years ago that was still in velvet. He peeled it off (very easy) and then created a man made wallow/rub. He put some mud in a tractor bucket and cut up some aspen branches and went at it. I defy anyone to tell the difference from a Sept killed bull. It was very interesting to me that the antlers already had 'polished' tips underneath the velvet.
 
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It's Colour where I come from. :)

I do my own European skulls and it is pretty easy to do. A guy doesn't have to fork over a bunch of money to the taxi man. Just takes a big canning pot and a 2 burner camp stove. ;) As for keeping the velvet on, it can get rotten and nasty if you don't do it right. And then it's bloody tough to get off because some of it dries super hard to it while some of it just falls off with the bugs. :)
 
Hey nebo,
I hope you can get a deer with velvet. BOHNTR wrote a very good article on preserving velvet in the field in the article/tips section of MM under "hunting tips". Might want to check it out.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-28-11 AT 06:34PM (MST)[p]I'll share my experience for your reference. I took the velvet off of my buck from last year. The velvet was actually very hard to pull off and took a couple hours to get it all completely off. Maybe this was a function of me waiting several days before I got if off?? The antlers were basically completely shaped how they would be hard horned, mostly just white with a little bit of blood discoloration in places. Not very nice looking honestly. Some of the tines are a little porous, and the very tip actually came off a little on a couple tines. I haven't decided what I'll do with them yet, stain, mount etc.

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If you dont have the money to do it rght then just freeze them until you do. injecting them isn't a great deal of money. you should be god for somewhere around a year in the freezer.

Deer get the color in their antlers from rubing the velvet off. those big chocolate horned bucks get that way from rubbing on pines and picking up the color from there.


It was a big bodied 2 point.
 
I had a set freeze-dried. Worked pretty good. It's a euro mount/velvet antlers. Didn't pay a lot for it as I recall.
 
Just wait til they are hard horned! 10x prettier than a velvet buck in my opinion. I have never understood the fascination people have with killing velvet bucks in the summer, but to each is own. Good luck with whatever you do.

T264
 
Told ya...UGLY. Great buck but what do yo do with it now? nebo maybe if you get some juiper or pine branches and scrape off the velvet with that and then use some mud or some WAM (Wild Antler Magic) you can get a natural color to them. if you have the time to do what bucks do to get their color you can probably have some success. Tell us how it works out, I'm curious to see if it works, (but I don't want to take the time to do it myself :) )
 
Mountain Man Taxidermy in Vernal is one of the only places I know of that will do a velvet euro. But I know it can be done, and looks awesome. I agree with the idea of leaving it in the freezer until you can do it right.
 
theres a few around the valley that does them, Im one of them.


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Freeze-drying does an amazing job of preserving the velvet but I don't know if it is considered a "natural drying" process and would potentially disqualify a buck from the books. Can anyone who scores clarify freeze-drying and p&y?
 
>I would just leave it on
>because thats the way you
>shot it and that the
>way you remember it by.
>

X2! There's a few different ways to preserve the velvet and most take very little effort at all.
 
I killed a small 4x4 a few years back and I just got some formaldahyde from an animal vet and injected the antlers and it worked great!

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LAST EDITED ON Sep-28-11 AT 07:08AM (MST)[p]Dingo:

Freeze-dried velvet IS eligible for entry into the P&Y records providing it dries for 60 days after treatment.

Just a reminder, while P&Y accepts velvet entries for all antlered species, they are NOT eligible for world record status and are not ranked in the book. They will only appear in one printing of the book, however their score will remain in the archived DVD documenting the official entries. B&C does not accept any velvet entries.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 

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