Qust. on AR-15 bre-ban

muleyman · Feb 12, 2008

I paid $1800 for a 1984 Colt AR-15 preban gun. It's been great to shoot the gun with great accuracy. It has the factory bauonet, flashhider and colapsible stock, (4) 40 round mags, also factory colt scope adjustable up to 500meter range.

Question: I wanted to turn the gun into a fully automatic rifle, and was told that I need some kind of special license / permit before I do this modification? The rifle would only be shot on our farm here in oregon...We have a 50-400yrd range setup for target practicing.

Can anyone point me in the right direction who I sould contact about this (state of federal). My brother in-law said I need a class II license? Is this true, or maybe another kind of permit. I have a local guy that does these fully auto mods...for a pretty penny.

Any help/ pointers would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks - muleyman

ismith · Feb 12, 2008

Good luck with that. You might just want to look into getting your class 3 license and buying a M-16 for around $15,000.
ismith

RELH · Feb 12, 2008

Muleyman;

Before you can have the weapon converted, you will need a special transfer permit from the feds. Last I heard it was 200 bucks. but they do not just hand them out to everyone that applies, they will require a extensive background check on you. Contact your local ATF office for what they require. Also you may have to jump though hoops with your state laws in Oregon. Here in calif. you have about as much chance of a snowball in hades due to state laws on owning a full automatic.
You will need to check your state laws to see if they allow private ownership of full autos. Of course you could move to Nevada and just comply with the federal transfer fee permit.

RELH

1911 · Feb 12, 2008

In May, 1986, legislation was passed that made it so that only fully automatic guns manufactured prior to that time could be owned by civilians. In order to do such you do need to obtain a permit from the ATF and pay a one time $200 fee for the ''tranferable'' weapon. Of course this is all subject to your local and state regulations as well. If you were able to ''transition'' your current rifle to fully automatic the only way I could see it happening legally is if you bought a reciever to put on your rifle from a pre May '86 ''transferable'' fully auto gun. If it were legally possible to transition a pre-86 semi automatic gun they would be worth a lot more than they are I would suspect. Go look at the price of a ''transferable'' m-16, compare it to a AR-15 and you'll see what I am refering to. I could be wrong but that is the way I understand it. Either way I'd make sure you are walking on the right side of the law because the feds take that stuff rather serious. Not worth the hassle in my opinion, especially with the cost of ammo.

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