625/Yard Kill Shot; Awesome Video on my Paun's Buck

Get closer and kill'em faster..This isn't freakin target practice...I might be in the minority on this one but that's exactly why I hate long distant shooting....


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Beautiful buck. Was the hunter not able to get any closer? Just not a proponent of long range shots.

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+1... Not sure what equipment this hunter used but hopefully states will start to ban the stuff made specifically for long range shooting. Is it really hunting if you are 1000+ yards away? I don't see the fun in it.
 
Nice buck. The video is a little disturbing.I personally dont see whats so exciting about shooting that far but, to each his own. Congrats.
 
>+1... Not sure what equipment this
>hunter used but hopefully states
>will start to ban the
>stuff made specifically for long
>range shooting. Is it really
>hunting if you are 1000+
>yards away? I don't see
>the fun in it.

Dumb way of thinking.. People are gonna push their limitations no matter what the weapon..Doesn't matter if its a longbow or a high power rifle...Folks have done it forever, nothing is gonna change..

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Great looking Buck, Very nice shooting also 3 for 3 at 625 yds is good., The video is pretty good IMO for not being a Pro.
Having family there to enjoy the hunt with you Priceless.
CONGRATS on a good buck.

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Ok, first off I have no beef with long range shooting or shooters - when you actually know a thing or two about shooting long range!!

But your video is pretty lame if you ask me - in watching it, your first shot is right at about 3:02 in the film and you bust his front leg so he just stands there. Then finally at about 5:02 in the video you make a 2nd shot. WTF?? It took you a full 2 minutes to ##### around and get on the deer for a 2nd shot - then after that one your buddy laughs and thinks its funny the deer is still up - classic.

In your blog you indicate the video does a better job of telling the story then you could of the amazing shot - well I guess it sure does.

Fine buck though - congrats??
 
That is one sad video. To sit and watch an animal die that slowly is sad. It sad that hunting has boiled down how long was my shot and how big is my trophy. I guess that explains the real difference between a hunter and a trigger puller. You sir are a trigger puller not a hunter.
 
All you people crack me up, I have seen as many bad shot placements and slow deaths from close range as I have long range, we can't always make one shot clean kills sorry were human we get excited get hurried, the thing about long range is u can usually get set up range it correctly and take your time for a shot rather than getting too close spook the buck can't range it and just blast a shot and can't see where it runs to, at farther distance u can usually see the deer longer cause you have a bigger field of view, there is always two sides to every story but it drives me nuts how some of you guys act like you have never made a bad shot or a bad choice it's going to happen its hunting that's why we practice as much as possible to try and avoid the possibility but no one is perfect. He recovered the buck big deal I'm sure some of your shots made an animal struggle probably just out of your site so you couldn't see it happen, think about it getting shot by a gun can't feel good just shooting at all is making them suffer if you can't handle the thought of that don't hunt, congrats on a great buck I enjoyed the video even if it doesn't meet the others standards it's fun to look back on and relive the moment, it's not like you said you were trying to sell copies man people are just ignorant sometimes
 
We are all trigger pullers if we even shoot lets see your videos of one shot dead before they hit the ground kind of kills, I'm sure all your animals just rolled over dead never felt a thing huh, or does it make you a better hunter cause your animals suffered less then someone else's, I'm not saying shoot there legs off and wait them out And finish them off with rocks to the head, but get over yourself and your perfect style of hunting it's bull s*#t , it's hunting and it will happen to even your mr one shot
 
slob hunting at it's finest ! great footage for peta. if you took five minutes too shoot it must be luck, or you haven't a clue. making the animal suffer so you can have your manly man 625 yard shot is sickning! you can't shoot for shi# in my opinion need too get closer, much closer you guys give the good long range shots a bad name. what would have happened if the buck ran off ???? it would have suffered a horrible fate.

i will say darn nice buck though.and leadhead pro hunters don't shoot to wound . they kill and kill quickly....
 
Wow, didn't realize this was going to happen.
The first shot went thru his lower leg and thru his brisket.
The time between the 1st and 2nd shot was due to other deer runing into the picture and I had to make sure and get on the right deer.
The 2nd shot went thru both lungs (Deer was all but dead)
3rd shot was just to make sure he was down.

I have made plenty of 1 shot kills in my life and I have had some other bad shots. I have recovered all my animals but 1 that I can think of. I hope all of you can say the same!

I have seen plenty of bad shots a 200 yards and less.\

This is a forum and everyone has an opinion, but don't judge someone's character.

The buck is dead, no meat wasted ect. Not sure what the problem is.
 
not judging character. sure you guys are fine fellows. not really against anything except the video. i am a bloodthirsty hunter, however maybe because i am getting older i hate to see the suffering. the deer should have been put down sooner regardles of photo ops. sorry if i came over too harshly. i tend to do that. very nice buck though
 
Some of what (both pro & con) that has been written is opinion. What follows is fact. The guy doing the shooting CAN'T SHOOT.

I practice long range quite often...on rock chucks to 700 yds. I have the equipment and hand load carefully. My longest shot (at a big-game animal) was 512 yds. This year, my shot was about 145 yds. (Both one-shot instant kills.)

He can't shoot goes beyond, "we all get a little excited" or there was a slight wobble in my hold. The shooter doesn't know HOW to use his own equipment.

IN THE VIDEO, he says he dialed it up for 625 yards (ballistic-drop compensating turret) but still held several inches over. IF that's true, he missed a MILE and hit the deer out of luck (bad luck for the wounded deer).

I define being a good shot as knowing exactly what your equipment and skill (and the weather) will allow you to do. Anyone can "wiggle"....no one should "dial to 625 AND hold over". IF that was done, it was done by someone who needs to either quit....or go practice!

(And yes, I can back up the statements with physics or shooting.)

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Problem is that some people think that because they don't choose to hunt with a gun that can truly kill out to 1000 yards that you and me and everyone else shouldn't, and that we are in the wrong if we choose to do so. My nephew shot a buck at 100 yards this year, hit it in the vitals 3 times before he went down. Maybe his hunting rights ought to be taken away because it didn't drop dead in its tracks.
 
Wow- lots of rocks in this glass house... Too bad the buck didn't run behind some trees to die so nobody has to acknowledge the reality of killing an animal... sheesh...

Nice job on an awesome buck ivideowildlife...

Thanks for sharing man..!!!


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I honestly cringe at watching animals suffer for any amount of time. Unfortunately it's often part of hunting. Great buck either way! Congrats!
 
Now we've gone from the long rangers telling us how they kill everything so well because of all their practice and equipment. To posting videos of what happens more often than admitted I'm afraid.

I'm not so much against the shot as I am the lack of respect and dignity given that great buck and then it being displayed for all to see. The laughing and hooting about the "great" shot is a little digusting. And it would be even if the shot had actually been great. No wonder all the tv hunting shows play rock music and show guys jumping up and down, acting like idiots and man-hugging.
 
Great buck, good shooting, but the video was a little painful to watch. It's tough to see such a great animal taking a while to go down. I don't think you did anything wrong except posting the video. A lot of people (hunters and non-hunters) will find it fairly offensive, and I think you have probably figured that out by now. No one (that's normal) likes to see anything suffer, and there's a lot of that with laughter in the background. Not cool. Post a photo, tell the story, and be done with it.
 
ok it took two rounds at 40 yards for my buck to go down.
nothing against this video that i see. He took his time to get the animal down instead of rushing it
 
Yup, great buck, and good shooting. Those that think deer fall hard every time you hit them solid are clueless. I understand the laughter cause you guys were caught up in the moment, I've been there myself. It's understandable, but it's probably not the best for a video. I'd cut out out the video where you hit him low, and mute the laughter... then it's solid. Great job, and again congrats on the buck!
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Wow! Some of you need to give up hunting and take up something a little less brutal maybe something like scrap booking or knitting. I see nothing wrong with the video. The guy makes 3 shots and hits the buck on every shot. At 600+ yards I'd say that's some good shooting Tex!

If the guys want to laugh and act a fool then so be it. Thanks for posting the vid. Keep them coming. Great buck by the way!
 
Just so everyone knows the buck went 20 long agonizing yards before he finally laid down to bleed to death.

No this wasn't edited for "The Outdoor Channel", but this animal did not suffer, he didn't have to lay in his bed waiting to bleed out from an arrow over night.

The laughter in the video is the excitement of 10 years of waiting for a tag, and enjoying the experience with my dad and my brother. The laughter was not meant to disrepect the animal by means, it is just excitement.

Thanks for the positive comments.
 
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I don't feel comfortable shooting long range nor do I condone it, but I don't think all three shots were poorly placed. Half the people on this site would probably struggle to be as consistent at 200 yards. I don't condone the laughter or seeing the buck suffer, but I don't find the video disturbing. How many people on here would want the world to see their behavior or language each time they are out hunting? Shooting rock chucks at 700 hundred yards like it is a video game is ok, but this is not? The irony in the commentary is that most people wouldn't have an issue if the buck was hit with an arrow and had run off to bleed out for 30 minutes before dying. I think some careful editing, as some have stated previously, could make the video a little better. Most of all, congrats on your best buck, and thank you for sharing your hunt with us!
 
Wow, I don't understand all the negative comments. There sure is alot of pros out there that seem to be perfect in their ability to hunt and kill animals.

To all who posted against this thread, lets see your unedited video of your hunts so I can learn how to be perfect like all the armchair critics seem to be.

Again, great buck, thanks for sharing the experience.
 
I don't really have a problem with the video... I just wanna say that the people saying they were well placed shots may need glasses.. The first shot looked like it went through the lower leg, the second was a high gutshot.. The third was high and into the spine doing the most damage..

Congrat's on the buck but don't ever expect to post a video of an animal taking multiple shots at long yardage and expect nothing but high fives and well dones...

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My comments have nothing to do with choice of shooting distance. I have the right equipment and I shoot great distances.

What I said is that the video maker doesn't know his equipment and shot VERY poorly. He claimed he aimed several inches high after dialing to 625.

If he had shot true, he would have hit several inches over the animal's back. If he knew what he was doing, he would have dialed the correct distance and HELD DEAD ON.

It's how it's done.


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wait till you hit a buck like that in the foot/toenail in northern region,guaranteed he ain't gonna stand there for 2 more follow up shots

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The video could be a lot better with some very minor video editing with free software (windows movie maker). A guy could easily get rid of the laughter (which I did not think seemed too bad) and shorten the time between shots so at least we would not have to wait 2 minutes while watching a suffering deer. A lot of the camera movements should be edited out as well.

This video is 14 minutes long, but could easily be about 3 or 4 minutes at the most. And that is just how long range hunting is. The entire hunt is finding the deer. All the shooting practice doesn't make a very interesting video, but stalking in closer does.

I am not impressed with long range hunting except for on predators, ground hogs and targets. Do it if you think you have to, but it really is nothing to brag about. Set the scope and pull the trigger; impressive. But to each their own. Like the dude above said (but was misunderstood, I think), "if you are far enough that you can talk in a normal tone and the animal can't hear you, then you are taking too much advantage of technology.

As for people complaining about technology and archery hunting, why would you not want an arrow to be as deadly as possible? The more animals that die due to better accuracy or better killing hardware the better. Much better than wounding one and then having to go kill another. If a person can get 50 yards from a buck, I am willing to give them any amount of technology needed to make a quick clean kill, as we all are humans and can make errors even at close range.
 
Hey Beavis "what if" your name was butthead there is a what if for everything, fact is buck is dead recovered and probly cut up by now, what if you get hit driving to work Tomoro you better stay home where it is safe but what if your gas line leaks and your house blows up you would suffer a horrible fate, enough is enough,

Gb22 do you eat those rock chucks your killing for fun, a true sportsman either eats what he kills or uses the animal for a purpose, yes I eat coyotes and sell there capes, I'm sure you chuckle when those rock chucks pop like balloons and splatter all over the ground, great example of doing stand up practices to hone your shooting skills so you don't have to watch animals suffer when you shoot them, what a hypocritical bastard! Send us the uncut footage of your rock chuckin and will see how awesome you are, I'm sure you walk up to the animal and thank the great creator for the chance to destroy innocent sun bathing animals, I'm sure you don't crack a smile as they flip in the air, do you walk your dumb ass 700 yards to check if it's dead, cause "what if" it drags itself back into its hole and suffers to death! You people are great!!! Glad there are some real pros on here
 
Lots of good points. I do believe that its ethical to get as close as possible and lessen the likelhood of making a poor shot. Hitting a deer 3 times at 625 is impressive! I've tracked deer for miles and never found them. They died a much more miserable death than this deer.
 
Great buck! My opinion, I couldn't shoot a buck from that far. Largely in part because I don't feel comfortable shooting from that distance. However, obviously the hunter in this video felt comfortable shooting from that distance and did a fine job at that. I don't know anyone personally that can go 3/3 from that distance. I do think that getting closer reduces the possibility of losing a magnificent animal such as that, but hey, who am I to judge? I wasn't there. All I see is a hunter who has paid his dues to tag a buck like that and has obviously done plenty of off season shooting.

Congrats on a great buck and great shooting!
 
I've not "chuckled" at anything's death...EVER!

I didn't comment on that, either. I commented on the shooting; everything I said is simple and FACT.


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well d13er,you don't expect a quick clean kill with a 600 rum do you?

>why are all killshot videos 15
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-11 AT 07:37AM (MST)[p]I get so freaking tired of listening to you holier than thou jerks bashing people. This is hunting, if you can't stomach it... quit hunting! All you idiots beating up on 3 pretty damn good shots are the perfect example of hypocrits! Oh you could've got closer, oh you laugh after the shot, oh you took 5 minutes to end it, oh your video editing could be better. Shut the F$%k up already. Do you guys pick which hunts you're going to go on according to your monthly cycle? "I just hate to see an animal suffer" Are you freaking serious? You are a hunter! Hunters KILL animals! Do "animal planet" kills make you want to leave the room? They show those f*cking videos all day long and those antelope are half eaten and still alive, do those make you wet your panties? The guy hit the deer a little forward... you've never missed by inches? If you say no you're lying! And he follows up with 2 good shots. It was a tough deer! What do you want? The deer is dead!


Congrats on a great buck, you got it done. I would suggest keeping your videos off here, to many sensative boys here!




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GB22, your no better. Your throwing out the names too. I think leadheads post offends you because of the truth to it....Post 19 states: "I practice long range quite often...on rock chucks to 700 yds".

Now I'm curious, how do you know all those rock chucks died instantly and didn't just crawl back in their holes to die a painful, miserable death? They are living, breathing creatures just like you. Treat them with the same respect maybe??

Facts are: This guy waited the ten or so years to draw a tag legally, did so, went on the hunt of a lifetime with his FAMILY, killed a great buck, has the memories of the hunt to go with it.

Get over the video! If we could replay your life on one big unedited video, I'm sure it would not be pretty....I know mine wouldn't because I'm not perfect.
 
Congrats on a great buck! I wouldn't consider a shot that far, but then I'm simply not competent to take that kind of shot. It also is contrary to my idea of hunting. Half the fun is finding the animal I want, the other half is getting in closer for the shot I want. To each their own.

No doubt a single shot through the boiler maker from the start would have been ideal, but things in life often aren't ideal. I can't imagine any other more "natural" way that buck might have later died that would have been quicker or easier.
 
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anyone who sees nothing wrong with this video needs to take a good look in the mirror. what they will see is whats wrong with hunting today ! too many.. me, me folks who only want to boost there ego's . taking five minutes to make 3 shots is no big epic prize. video recording wounded deer and laughing is sick, perverse and discusting. i will admit gut shooting a deer with a arrow on other hunting video's and looking for it the next day is just as bad if not worse.

i kill what i shoot at !!!!!!! i am middle aged and have NEVER shot a deer in the leg or had a deer stand there for 2 or three minutes mortaly wounded without finishing the job. i reload amunition that kills quickly. may leave huge exit wounds , but kills my big game quickly. have i gut shot animals..........yep, but i recovered everyone of them. if i had " video recorded" all my hunts i would have been proud of them all because i gave all the animals the respect they deserved.

as for the rockchucks they are varmits and do a lot of crop damage. if guys like gb22 didn't shoot them the farmers would poison them. i would rather get blown to kingdom come and not know what happened than get slowly dehydrated to death and rot in a hole....

what irks me is this attitude when it's deer season to hell with any form of ethical behavior....... if you gut shoot , leg shoot an animal and are to lazy, unskilled to follow up the shot and lose it OH WELL it happens to everybody........no it doesn't !! might make you feel better but it doesn't ! and just shoot regardless of range or circumstance i don't get either, as wll as the just recover the deer regardles of how long it suffers or how many days the meat rots in the sun as long as i get my rack ! i so enjoy the posts of a lad or lady getting their first deer. ususualy a nice tale. not a 800 yard gut shot special.
 
Nice shooting, NOT! In the future can you just post your pictures and video straight to this website so I don't have to look at your blog. Blogs are gay.
 
This is a joke. Most of you nannies couldn't shoot that well at 200 yards. Yeah the first shot was a bit low and wouldn't have killed the deer but the 2nd shot was a killer and the 3rd was an insurance shot. Those NBA basketball players that only shoot from the 3 pt. line but bury every one of them must not be as good of players as the ones who only do lay ups right? I would much rather hunt with someone who spends all summer working up loads, tweeking their rifles, and shooting hundreds of rounds out to 800 yards to feel proficient at 600 than the guy who blows the dust off his rifle the weekend before his hunt, hits the paper plate at 100 yards and says that his max range is 300 yards.

I saw a guy last year shoot his bull elk at 125 yards five times. 4 in the guts and one in the shoulder. I shot a huge buck a few years ago 4 times at 60 yards. All 4 in the shoulder in a 2 inch group and walked up to him to have him still breathing. They can be tough. Guess what....they don't all die before they hit the ground. NICE BUCK, congrats!!

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Oh so because rockchucks are considered varmints they are somehow less valuable in the longrun? That is the dumbest excuse I've ever read. Which video do you think an anti will glom onto? A video of a buck taking 3 shots to go down or someone blasting rockchucks and leaving them to rot? If he hadn't said the distance, everyone would have said great job. Listen I'm sorry for cussing in my last post but I've had it up to my eyeballs with this bashing crap. All you archers need to keep your mouths shut because I would venture to say that the average archery kill takes at least 5 min for the animals to expire. So if if you're an archer, keep your trap shut. The kill isn't ever pretty, we ALL hope for quick clean kills but it doesn't always happen that way. He who is without sin cast the first stone!

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Hey leadhead,

"what if" you went to school and learned a bit about writing and punctuation so people can actually follow your post?

Nice buck.

To me if you can shoot long range, good for you. If you cant, good for you. Sometimes shots are not that great, whether its at 600 yds or 100 yds. To me the issue is about posting a video showing the deer wounded/suffering as some describe it. Yea, we've all seen it happen and we'll see it again. Nobody says it doesnt happen. But I'm not so sure we need to publish it for the world to see. It does nothing to help hunting.
 
Another saga about long-range shooting - we've been through this subject before and the same ole arguments - I personally didn't look at the video when it said 625 yards and others could have done the same. Time will tell what will happen to this sport of hunting -

Wildsage
 
Wow. There sure are a lot or armchair quarterbacks on here! Half of you sound like Uncle Rico!

I have no problem with this buck, with the shots, with the video, the laughing or anything. This is real life, it is with your Dad and brother and I can hear the excitement in all your voices. The buck died quickly and efficiently. It was a legal shot on a legal hunt. 625 yards is a long shot and maybe there could be a better way to use the equipment or get in closer but the bottom line is as you said it - very little wasted meat, clean kill and a great time with your family.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions but remember, they are like armpits - they stink!

Congrats on a great Paunsaugunt buck!


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>Dumb way of thinking.. People are
>gonna push their limitations no
>matter what the weapon..Doesn't matter
>if its a longbow or
>a high power rifle...Folks have
>done it forever, nothing is
>gonna change..

Absolutely we will push our limitations but does that mean we should just keep finding newer and better technology that will continually increase those limits? People "hunting" from 1000+ yards away does not sound like fair chase to me
 
Good hell.....I don't even know what to post here. A lot of guys I really respect are sounding like PETA activists. He killed the damn deer with three shots over five minutes. The first shot was marginal. I have seen a deer's jaw get blown off at 50 yards by an "experienced" hunter. For 625 he did ok... The second shot was a killer, as was the third. There is time between the shots...THE DEER MOVED. Should he go all western and just start winging wild shots??? How can you possibly say he is a "poor" shooter?

What percentage of Shot deer (any weapon) suffer for more than five minutes? I would bet a large percentage do.

As for the laughing and emotion, this is the most confounding part of the attacks for me....the day I quit getting emotional about hunting and success is the day I stop. And yes, sometimes that comes out as LAUGHTER (happiness).

I killed my first deer with a bow this year at 65 yards. I have had several Delta Bravos tell me that that was too far and I have no business shooting at live animals at that distance.

There are always those among us that feel a need to tell others how to enjoy the thing that we love the most. In the end it is up to each of us to find our own way to do it and leave others the hell alone.

The video is good, thanks for posting.


I AM FAR MORE OFFENDED BY THE MOSSBACK VIDEOS WHERE HE ALWAYS BEATS THE HUNTER TO THE ANIMAL AND HAS THE DAMN TAPE ON THE ANTLERS BEFORE THE HUNTER CAN APPRECIATE THE ANIMAL OR WHAT JUST HAPPENED.


Good topic for discussion, not impressed with all the personal attacks.....


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Well put AndymanSavage. Heck the day I quit getting that rush is the day I quit. YES I was excited this year when I killed my buck with my 8 year old and 5 year old with me, and yes there were smiles and laughter. Did we do it as a disrespect to the animal? HECK NO! My boys were excited and so was I to share something I love with them. BTW I double lunged him and by the time it took me to reload my muzzy and to get up to him to finish him off took a couple of minutes. Good for you again Kelly, keep the hunt videos coming.
 
I have read the rules of this forum and thus will be as respectful as possible. First of all it is obvious this man has practiced extensively or he would not have hit 3for3 at 625 yards. I think there is a big difference between shooting rock chucks and the buck of a life time in front of you. In the excitement of doping his scope he was one click low on the turret, easily done, that was the difference in the first shot being about 4 to 6 inches low at 625 yards. He realized what had happened and compensated on the second shot. Also you or I don't know what the wind was doing and I have shot enough long range to know the wind facter is a good guess because it may not be blowing where the shooter is but is at the target. I believe this shooter knows his equipment and knows how to use it. If you hit your target 100% of the time at long range I would like your autograph!
 
One trigger puller to another, in a couple of weeks when you are eating your turkey remember that bird died a slow death, have you ever watched how they butcher turkeys? I have, they cut there throat while hanging upside down just enough to let them bleed to death. This trigger puller KNOWS how to pull the trigger and hit the target 3 out of 3 times, seems like quite an accomplishment to me. Hope you enjoy your turkey.
 
Great Deer!! Congrats

I like the fact that the video was shown in the raw footage. Let's face it, sometimes the "one shot, one kill" is a bunch of crap. I know plenty of times when the good shots don't just knock the animal down. Keep doing what you are doing, I think it's great!
 
+ 1 Andyman Hunting is killing ! Holy smokes guys . Do you not get it ? Or are you missing that point ?
 
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i guess why i felt compeled to speak my mind was initialy the 625 yard / kill shot. what after five minutes a killshot... if you measured the distance on the deer the rounds hit what maybe a 25 " group? not exactly camp perry shooting there. certainly no reason to brag for sure. preety sure more than not could take old betsy and shoot off sand bags and shoot a 25 " shot group at that distance.

as for the suffering animal, i will admit i have shot plenty that probably anguished mightily in the brush gagging on their own blood ect, before i arrived and found them dead or delivered a coup de gras shot.as was said hunting is a blood sport.having said that i feel very stronly the animal should be finished quickly as possible. what i didn't like was the whooping and cheering for hitting the deer. not killing it just hitting it. that would be like a major league hitter knocking one up the middle and jumping for joy at the plate before running to first......kill the deer than celibrate.deer could have just as eaisly ran off instead of posing for five minutes.

i actually liked the video in fairness. a prized tag and very fine buck. but posting anything on here will come with several opinions. you have the right to post what you wish and we have the right to comment on it.
 
The buck died within a few minutes of being hit the first time. To me that is a success. It wasn't the greatest shooting at 625 but it got the job done. I'd recommend really getting to know long range shooting and grab a scope that has mil/mil or moa/moa turrets/reticle and get to know how to dial for each situation and to know your cold bore a little better. Environmental conditions have very little effect on a bullets DROP (notice I didn't say drift) out to 550-600 yds but after that they start playing a HUGE role.

The deer died quickly and ethically... I double lunged my first archery buck this year and watched him bed down and proceed to "die" for 3 hrs. I didn't feel bad for the shot I took, it was a solid hit. Deer are just tough animals, thats hunting.

Mike
 
What I like are the arguments about, "well one time at band camp joe shmoe gut shot a deer at 6 yards blah blah blah."

If you have to argue that someone else did worse at a much closer range then it shows you are desparate and admitting guilt.

Does the shooter practice at 625 yards routinely?

The answer is obviously NO.

It was a pathetic attempt at hunting and posting it on the WWW showed horrible taste. Of course there are worse scenarios but why add to the disaster? It wasn't a clean kill or it would have tipped over at the sound of the gun and never got up again. Pretty simple. Always take high percentage shots and this was NOT one of them.

Nobody is perfect but this was terrible.

I'm just wondering how many videos we don't watch because the animal got away.
 
I like your style azwalker! We got some Girly men on here that never make a mistake and in my eyes thus guy did nothing wrong he shot killed recovered a great buck, these little cry babies need too nut up and shut up, I'm sure some of these guys saying its sad to watch it suffer are probably archery hunters too that let there animals sit for hrs and overnight till it expires, how is that any better than this, I'm sure animals suffer when a cougar or coyote kills them or hit by a car or starve to death or old age or idiots chasing them around trying to find there sheds on winter range too early and run to death, it's natures cycle animals don't die on a hospital bed with medications and temperature control and pillows, animals were made to tough it out go wipe your pee pees if it makes you cry
 
I didn't watch the video, nor do I care if you're an archery hunter or a long range shooter. I'm blown away by the amount of girls squatting to pee on this site. Really, you're appalled by laughter and suffering? Yes, all animals should be respected, but we are killers. Man up.
 
Hey Beavis I never said I support people wounding an animal and just saying oh well let's go get another, I believe always shoot to kill and don't give up till the job is done, if you hit an animal now your hunt consists of hunting to find it, shots don't always go as planned no matter how perfect it felt, maybe deer jumps or turns or you just jerk, but I don't think five min is traumatic, maybe he lost the deer maybe he had to compose himself for his next shot would count, I would rather see someone take there time and make it count than try and hurry only to spook the deer away, it's funny how you admit gut shooting deer but then criticize this guy for poor shooting, do you see the problem here,

Gb22 the truth hurts and the more it hits home the more true it is so you better evaluate yourself before criticizing others fault, your as guilty as the others, I fear for the future of hunting with you being a hunters education instructor those poor kids will go do things and never think there wrong, I'm sure you never injured a bunny when you would shoot them on the run I'm sure you just were a dead eye from the start, not! It takes practice huh maybe this guy is still getting proficient at longe range but either way he got the job done, I hope you don't fish cause that hook has got to hurt while your pulling them in, I love man sized cry babies
 
I disagree with you Zigga, this shooter obviously practices long range shots because he hit the target 3 times, the answer is yes. So what's a high percantage shot? To this shooter it was or he would have missed!
 
I have read many of the posts on this forum and would like to add my view of this shooter and the shots made. Obviously he has practiced this type of shot because he hit the target 3 times!!!! It was an ethical shot because he had (2) spotters who were trained on the target and for those of us who shoot large caliber guns know when the shot is made the reqoil pulls you off the target, I perfectly understand he lost the target after the shot and had to find it again after it moved, plus other deer running around that is why his spotter says the one deer is a doe and directs him back on target. He then compensates the range of the target and hits it again, plus adding a the final shot (remember at 625 yards)I also understand the low first shot because he admits in the excitement he missed doping his scope by (1)click thus the first shot being low, he then compensates to make the other 2 shots, a sign of a true marksman.

The deer would have died after the second shot, sounds to me like he didn't want the animal to suffer, hense the third shot.
For someone to say they ALWAYS have a one shot kill have not hunted for 30+ years as I have. Your time will come when you wound one, then I hope you are man enough to admit on this forum you wounded one and had to shoot him or her again!

I believe this shooter knows his equipment very well and knows how to use it and has put the time in that it takes to be confident in shooting long range and had the people there to spot for him.

Great buck, fine shooting and to have family there to enjoy the excitement is priceless.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-11 AT 04:28PM (MST)[p]3 shots and one dead buck.You don't hit an animal with 3 consecutive shots at 600+ yards unless you know what you are doing and have the equipment to do it. Apparently, the nay sayers take only broadside 100 yard shots on big bucks. Lets get real here. Big bucks seldom give you that kind of shot. They are either on a dead run or across a steep canyon where getting closer may not be an option. Truth is, a close range encounter may be more unethical as the hunter will be rattled and the animal will usually bolt from cover allowing for a marginal shot and a wounded animal. I have taken many animals in excess of 600 yards and I have recovered 100% of them. The key is knowing your equipment and limitations.Just because some hunters can't make those shots doesn't make it wrong for those that can.

Again, congrats on a great buck and a great shot!!!!

As a side note, my wife shot her first deer last year at 30 yards with a 25 06. Hit it right behind the front shoulder. Took out both lungs. Deer went 30 yards and laid down.Wife jumped it again and had to take a running shot. Hit it in the leg. Buck went right down but still needed another one through the rib cage to end it's suffering.First shot was lethal and we even waited a few minutes before recovering him after the 1st shot. Some deer, are just dang tough.
 
Congratulations on a gtood buck! Good shooting. Good vid. I know the laughing on the vid was from excitement and not humor. Seems like most of the vids people post on here get ripped for one reason or another. I have seen worse shooting from far shorter distances. Nice buck.
 
>Congratulations on a gtood buck! Good
>shooting. Good vid. I know
>the laughing on the vid
>was from excitement and not
>humor. Seems like most of
>the vids people post on
>here get ripped for one
>reason or another. I have
>seen worse shooting from far
>shorter distances. Nice buck.


You guys keep pointing out the problem like it's not really a problem. New to hunting obviously.

"I have seen worse shooting from far shorter distances."

Really? So you admit to having no standards. Good for you. You are the problem with hunting.

Having the attitude that 30" groups at 625 yards is clearly ok is another WTF?? It's called luck and I'm still wondering how many videos we don't see posted on here because they slithered away.

What a joke.
 
Lest there be any misunderstanding......the video maker does not know how to use the gun and scope.

He may learn.

On a personal level, it's highly doubtful YOU will....grow up, that is.


Within the shadows, go quietly.
 
He obviously DOES NOT PRACTICE much.

He said, he dialed the scope to 625 and then held several inches over, anyway.

If he did that (and shot well), he would have hit several inches OVER THE HOLD...not several inches low.

He got lucky. That's the long and short of it.


Within the shadows, go quietly.
 
Congrats on your buck. I hope when I finally draw my tag after I've put in for a quarter of my life I can be just as excited as you were. I also hope I get a buck as nice as yours. Some times when posting footage or commenting on the distance its best to keep it to yourself. This way no one can criticize you. There are way too many people trying to tear people down on this sight.
Again great deer!
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great buck, awsome video. good shooting. however my one complaint is all the bs you got for it.. woulda thought this had been over-ran by peta or something.
 
great video and great shooting. i love the pauns. saw some good bucks there while helping out with my brothers hunt this year.

3 for 3 is good shooting at 625 yards. for those of you that dont know the pauns, long shots are common over there. it can be quite thick and a lot of the best spotting and shooting oppertunities come from high vantage points.

who cares if he dialed to 975 and held under, he knows his equipment and can obviously shoot. use your equipment how you want and the rest of us will do the same.
 
gb22,
I have listened to all the critics and experts and not had to much negative to say to anyone, but to be honest I have heard about all i can stand out of your mouth. Because you cant listen to the video, I will try to explain the situation one more time for such a slow learner! The Buck was @ 630 yards in the heat of the moment I dial my turret to 610/yards, first shot was 6" low, so instead of redialing my turret to 625, i held 6-8" higher. 2nd shot went thru both lungs (Not the guts) I have owned this gun system for 5 years, shot hundreds of rounds thru it, I obiviously know my gun!! The comment about "I may learn"
??? Who the hell are you? Who deamed you the master of all long range shooting? gb22 if you want to get a hold of me and have this out man to man, you know how to get a hold of me. Shut your mouth! I have had enough.
 
This is ok, as far as I'm concerned, for a shooting video. I'd rather see the raw footage than the doctored up stuff. What it is not is a hunting video.
"Got a call on the radio", "45 min. drive", "ranged him", "shot him".
Shooting video not a hunting video. I have no doubt that if this person had a 400 yard standard it would have been a 400 yard shot.
 
gb22,
I have listened to all the critics and experts and not had to much negative to say to anyone, but to be honest I have heard about all i can stand out of your mouth. Because you cant listen to the video, I will try to explain the situation one more time for such a slow learner! The Buck was @ 630 yards in the heat of the moment I dial my turret to 610/yards, first shot was 6" low, so instead of redialing my turret to 625, i held 6-8" higher. 2nd shot went thru both lungs (Not the guts) I have owned this gun system for 5 years, shot hundreds of rounds thru it, I obiviously know my gun!! The comment about "I may learn"
??? Who the hell are you? Who deamed you the master of all long range shooting? gb22 if you want to get a hold of me and have this out man to man, you know how to get a hold of me. Shut your mouth! I have had enough.
 
Kelly,That is an awesome buck and I know you earned him. I also know your family very well and I wish I could share those same experiences with my DAD. You hold your head up and don't let all these sniffling cry babies on here get to you. You told me several months ago you were going to make the best of this Pauns tag and you did us all proud!! So just remember the ones that really matter will back you up anywhere-anytime!!! So if any of these p!ss babies want to try my shirt on you all know where to find me!!! Kelly is a stand up guy and I say CONGRATS.

Later, Layne T.
 
So beavis14 every animal you go after dies before it hits the ground ( you must be amazing) name says alot!!!!!!!!!!!
 
gb22 not sure why you call me a liar? Not sure what i lied about i just have been saying it how it is. Your mad because i have called you out when you contradict yourself. You have made comments on this post and on others that dont stay constistent to your arguments. So that makes me a liar i guess oh well, i would like know what it is i lied about though. and for the record who cares if he said 625 and still held high you have beat that horse to death and probably laughed ha ha, we all got your point the first time you dont need to keep repeating it in every single reply. No matter what he said he made the shot and killed the animal, that is a happy ending. You are arguing over something that was SAID and i am defending something that was DONE!! You better not watch hunting videos and hunting channels they show far more cruel deaths, do you write the producers and tell them how poor there film was.
 
All that matters you are happy you made three great shots good job!!!!! Nice buck......
 
Let him enjoy this hunt how Utah is set up it will take ten more years to draw let him look back on this film and enjoy (not think how many people think it was wrong) I think it's great to see family hunting. I go with dad and two brothers every year there is nothing better. And yes when you get a buck of that class how can you not be happy laugh it's good for you, your not laughing at death it's about the experience!!!!!!!! Great buck agin... Hope you can look at that everyday and be happy.....
 
I've got it figured out, all the negative comments are from hunters who didn't get their animal this year, since the majority of the hunts are over.

If the video would have been posted oh, say, next August there probably would not have been one negative comment because everyone would have been thanking him for posting a kill shot video to get them pumped for the upcomming season.

Those of you with a problem should get together and start your own websight called MENSTRUATINGMEN.COM
 
I like that.... Those cry babies just bring drama its not face book!!!!!!!!
 
sweet buck. dont care what anyone else says i like the video. its part of hunting. 3 shots at 625 is pretty darn good in my book. congrats on a nice buck and some great memories
 
videoman,

Good shooting. I doubt many of these anti long range guys has a perfect track record shooting at any range. If you know your equipment and are disciplined enough to turn down questionable shots, long range shots are do-able as you prove in this video.

My only suggestion is that you edit the video and show only the last shot like Best of the West does so you don't give the anti hunters any footage to show at their next convention. Hunting is by its nature a violent sport and squeemish people vote.

As a group we need to police ourself to insure the anti's don't outlaw our way of life.

Happy Hunting and congratulations!! Thats one hell of a buck!
 
Hey Good Shootin, Dandy buck.
The only thing that is disturbing to me are the post's I have been reading. I think I even read one that said "The Pro's shoot to kill and put their game down quick" or something like that?? That one was great! I havent laughed that hard in a long time. seriously!
Most of us that are serious about hunting, know how things go down in reality, and for that reason cant stand the outdoor channel, but now I know why they need it.
The other thing that is interesting to me, I dont know how many times I have heared some "do gooder" hunter say ON THIS SITE...."Hard to see an ANIMAL LIKE THAT SUFFER". WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN. He is old so kill him quick, but the poor little two point...he can like it for a while??? idiots, Video was real, buck was a dandy, WELL DONE.
 
Lets see here.

1 dead deer
1 recovered deer
3 rounds
5 minutes max on the suffer time scale.

Sounds like a bunch of internet hunters upset that you killed a deer.

I wouldn't worry what they say about your shooting or character.
 
Well... You know what they say about opinions..

They're like a$$holes and everyone has one...

Here's my opinion...

ivideowildlife, Congratulations! That is one very nice buck.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-02-11 AT 09:28AM (MST)[p]Once again great video! A couple times in this thread people have mentioned that this kind of stuff only gives fuel for the antis. Well sorry to break it to you boys a video of a perfect 100 yard shot to the heart is fuel for the antis let alone this one. It doesn't matter how you do it if your killing animals antis are going to be against it and they will come up with ways to make it look bad no matter how clean the kill is.

The moment I start changing the way I hunt or what I choose to post online to cater to the feeling or needs of the antis is the day I might as well go and join PETA. The antis will always come up with new creative ways to make hunting look bad no matter what we do. What's next??? Not showing any kill videos at all because the antis might use it against us. Then what? Stop posting our kill photos because it upsets the antis. If this were the case we might as well turn in our guns and balls now boys because the antis will stop at nothing to get rid of hunting.

This is hunting and it's brutal there's really no way around it. If this kind of stuff bothers you and you think it should be sugar coated then maybe hunting isn't for you. I'm proud to call myself a hunter! I kill and eat animals and I'm not ashamed to admit it to anyone period!
 
Hey Zigga, what's a good group at 625 yards? Not understanding your comment on 25" and 30" groups?
 
WOW! everyone sounds like a bunch of little sissy high school PETA girls. I thought this was a hunting website, not the fairys chit chat group. Your complaining because the buck didn't instantly roll his eyes back and say oh S#$% you got me and fall over.

If thats your argument you must want archery hunting banned.

And 2nd, no one likes to see an animal suffer, but its taking a bullet there's going to be some suffering, but this video doesn't even show a huge reaction from the deer to make it look that bad. I have seen animals go into seizures and heard them yelp and scream.

Like someone else said it was a tough deer he just stood there and took it like a man, And a lot more manly than what some of you sound like.

Complaining about laughing, come on now! You would of heard a lot worse out of me if I had just taken that buck. I wouldn't call it direspectful to the deer, But when someone puts in so much time and effort to take the animal there looking for and everything comes together there is going to be some emotion there.


+1 on AZWALKER

And congrats on a sweet buck and the video aint too shabby either.
 
The only thing I find disturbing in this thread is that some guy eats coyotes. No, I do not hunt them.
 

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