Where expo money is being spent

[TheElitehornhunter]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-05-12 AT 09:05AM (MST)[p]It looks like the money being raised from the hunt expo is going to a good cause.


Per division rule R657-55 the purpose of the program is ?for purposes of generating revenue to fund wildlife conservation activities and attracting a regional or national wildlife convention to Utah"

There was an audit done in 2010. Here is where some of the money went. You be the judge if it fits the intended purpose. Certainly some good causes on the list, but wildilife conservation? Keep in mind of the 3.4 million raised in the first four years only 800k was even accounted for by expo organizers in the audit. In fairness and for the sake of full disclosure about 500k of the 3.4 million did seem to go to good wildlife projects but they are vague in description.

$117,671 - Wolf Litigation/ Washington DC Policy
$21,000 - Donation to Cancer Patients
$20,000 - Orem Pritchett/Tatloil Gift
$14,000 - Jessica Clark Scholarship Fund
$14,000 - Edwards-Beaver Property
$11,000 - Kevin Conway Scholarship Fund
$10,000 - Chance Phelps Endowment Fund
$5,450 - Wyoming/Pinedale
$5,000 - SFW Wyoming
$5,000 - St George Livestock
$5,000 - Eye Donation
$5,000 - Deputy Josie Greathouse
$3,000 - Sean Pearson Cancer

These projects will help our mule deer herds!!!!!

 

[TheElitehornhunter]

Another thing most of you probably don't realize is that, in addition to the $5 Convention application handling fees, and the $1,708,750 they got auctioning off the Conservation tags, the Convention and Conservation organizations are also making money off of the permits in a secondary manner and none of that money is accountable. In 2009, SFW received $578,592 from Credit Card Processor Inc. for processing credit cards, $659,917 for fundraising (mostly banquet tickets) where the tag auctions are the draw, and $992,074 from the Convention tickets and convention clothing and gear. In addition, they received $61,619 from investments with West Rim Capital Partners out of Lehi, $70,978 from foreign currency exchange (Canadian? Mexican?) and $43,391 from Arctic Red River Outfitters out of Alaska. It isn't just the permits, folks, but all the surrounding stuff they are tied to. And that doesn't count the non-permit related income, ie: $1,003,035 in contributions and grants, $39,912 in bank interest and dividends.

Of course all of that doesn't count the expenses related to the above incomes, but the the bottom line is that in 2009 SFW took in $5,500,579 and spent $4,474,193 (including $396,849 in salaries and $1,545,009 in wildlife projects), leaving $1,026,486 in surplus for the year 2009. When that is added to the surpluses of previous years and to the nonliquid assets (land, buildings, machinery, equipment), their total assets amounted to $7,322,401 at the end of 2009. Of that amount, $4,865,827 was used that year to purchase land which means that amount changed from a liquid asset to a nonliquid asset. I'm still working on the amount of land, location, prior ownership, and whether or not the hunting public will have access to it. I will update when I get that info.

 

[ShowThemToMe]

I'll tell you what Elite!

Why don't you start your own NON-Profitable Organization & Bring the Deer Herd of TARDville back & We'll all Praise you for your Greatness!



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Hot Dog,Hot Damn,I love this Ameri-can

 

[TheElitehornhunter]

Well I would spend the money on wildlife. How does donating to cancer patients help our deer herds?

You should be upset bessy!

 

[piper]

Utah is well known for being the scam artist capital of America, so what else is new?

 

[ShowThemToMe]

Ain't nobody more upset than me about the condition of the Utah Deer Herd!

You've never heard me say the $FW was Perfect!

You've never Heard me say the RMEF was Perfect!

You've never Heard me say the MDF was Perfect!

You've never Heard me say the DWR was Perfect!

I've been mad for right near 40 years Elite!

With all the BS Deer Management I've seen in the last 40 years it's a JOKE!

It's REDICULOUS!

It's gettin WORSE by the Year!

Are Humans gettin SMARTER or DUMBER as Life goes on?

I sure the HELL ain't sayin the $FW is PERFECT cuzz they ain't!

But I'll bet if you look you'll see where some of the Money was spent on WildLife/Projects!

Not the 110% Figure We all want to see but they have done SOMETHING!

Just start your own Elite,I think you could fix all the problems & Satisfy everybody,GAWD don't wait any longer,WE need Help!



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Hot Dog,Hot Damn,I love this Ameri-can

 

[theox]

yeah i dont mind a little charitable work from the money, maybe to a cancer patient for a hunt or whatever. but to give the money to another state and scholarships etc when it is supposed to be used for utah wildlife that ticks me off. elite where did you get these figures?

 

[sagebrush]

TEHH - I really appreciate you digging around to get to the bottom of where the money really goes. Please keep us posted when you get the details on the land transactions.

 

[bullsnot]

Don't forget about the $70k that the travel and tourism board gives to expo organizers per year to put on the expo.

 

[TOPGUN]

Just reading how much they took in and where some of those monies that can even be accounted for went should make people realize that something is rotten in Denmark! I can't believe anyone would think that things being done by that organization are on the up and up with the lack of transparency going on.

 

[nvhunter]

Good God!! No wonder you guys are PO'ed!! I hope we never get anything like that started here!!

That $5000 Eye Donation.....is that for a sharp stick to poke everyone in the eye?

 

[264mag]

kinda like goverment

 

[sagebrush]

nvhunter -

You may be closer than you think. Have you checked out the Dream Tag organization? I hope it's not the start in your state.

 

[wstrntines]

Wolf litigation i like sfw wyoming no cancer paitients I do support the fight on but wildlife money should not go to it or scholarships should have no part in this eye donation no and edwards beaver property? what is the edwards beaver property. wheres the rest of the money did the govt steal it agian like they did on the wolf reintroduction.

 

[nvhunter]

Yes i looked at the Dream Tag although briefly and do believe it to be on the same lines as this. I guess the only thing is if you dont want your money being spent like that then dont buy in. Maybe we should start writeing and expressing our concerns and displeasure about the Dream Tag thing.

 

[gznokes]

I'm cool with the donation to the Chance Phelps Endowment Fund. As far as I can tell it is associated with this charity for veterans http://www.chancephelps.org/

 

[elkun]

sttm. gee. you working to get a free sheep hunt,,,?money should go to wildlife nothing else..,,.,.

 

[Cornhusker]

You guys can just keep SFW in Utah and we'll all hope it doesn't corrupt the rest of the states.

 

[O_S_O_K]

It simply boggles my mind that so many people get so upset with those of us that simply want some transparency so we can all ensure that the money being raised off of the Utah Wildlife actually goes back into Utah Wildlife, as it is supposed to.

Nobody said that SFW hasn't done ANYTHING good, but how can you argue with the simple facts and figures as pointed out above?

So, I guess the easiest rebuttle to figures like the ones above is to call those who question them out and ask them to do something better???

How about we hold the ones that are doing some good accountable for their actions and then we can all move forward with improving Wildlife in Utah and stop $itching about it.

Until there is transparency of where all of the money is being spent then how can anyone come to any other conclusion?

STTM - I guess since they are doing SOMETHING good somewhere with some small percentage of the money raised from Your tags and Mine then we should just keep forking over the money? Hell, why not give them more tags, right? I am sincerely trying to understand this point of view. Please help me.


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[shotgun1]

They don't care because people like STTM were raised as good little Utahns.

Do what your leaders tell you to do.
Follow along with the rest of the flock.
Keep your mouth shut.
Don't ask questions.

 

[Bushmen]

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