Muley Mount Mixup

[Timberdoodle]

I recently had the unfortunate experience of picking up my mount of my 2011 mule deer, only to find that the cape I had brought in and the cape that my taxidermist had mounted were two very different animals. The best that I can figure is that the capes got mixed up at the tannery. Now I am in the unenviable position of having someone else's cape, while somewhere out there, someone probably has received a mount of a buck with a white face, good sized neck (I think ~23"), and a decent sized notch in the right ear. If there is even a .01% chance that posting this can put me back in touch with my cape, or someone else back in touch with theirs (notch in upper left ear), I thought I should post it up.

The field photos:

The mount:

 

[HayZeus]

That sucks I hope you can work it out. The mount looks good no matter what cape was used. I like the pics to thanks for sharing.

 

[sageadvice]

I'd be ticked off, big time! Your buck's body and cape were exceptional.

Joey


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[ShowThemToMe]

Nothin like takin a Bruiser in & gettin a PISSCUTTER back is there?



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[Roy]

LAST EDITED ON Aug-16-12 AT 07:21AM (MST)[p]Yeah - that is no bueno big time. I would be extremely upset. I have a buck like that with a big notch in his ear too and I would have been PO'd if he would have came back without it.

Have you talked to the taxidermist about it? He needs to do some work on his end to try and find your cape. That is just not the greatest taxi work to begin with.

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[Gator]

wow you had a A+++ cape and got back a B+ cape, it doesn't even look like the buck was taken in the same season as yours.
Hope you find your bucks cape.

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[goatroper]

>Nothin like takin a Bruiser in
>& gettin a PISSCUTTER IS THERE?.....

THATS THE HARDEST I LAUGHED IN A WHILE!

back to the cape thing ...I say burn it!.. then burn the guys house down!
every-time you look at your just going to think how he screwed
you over because one of his regulors needed a better cape and was willing to pay for it!

if it's me ...hope you have insurance sucka!!

 

[NickM]

I'd demand the taxi figure this out! I wouldn't have paid him either.


Damn pisscutters.

 

[Triple_BB]

Yer SOL. If yer cape is mounted on someone elses mount, its not like they can just strip the cape back off and switch it out for you. With the hide paste, ears being filled with clay, and everything being trimmed, it would be impossible to remount yer old cape at this point. About the only thing you can do is try to find a nice buck on a future rut hunt and then put that cape on yer current mount. At least they'd both be from deer you harvested.

 

[Tristate]

>>Nothin like takin a Bruiser in
>>& gettin a PISSCUTTER IS THERE?.....
>
>THATS THE HARDEST I LAUGHED IN
>A WHILE!
>
>back to the cape thing ...I
>say burn it!.. then burn
>the guys house down!
>every-time you look at your just
>going to think how he
>screwed
>you over because one of his
>regulors needed a better cape
>and was willing to pay
>for it!
>
>if it's me ...hope you have
>insurance sucka!!

Are you mental??? No matter how proud someone is of their deer its still just a silly deer mount at best worth a few hundred bucks. And whether you like it or not an honest mistake could have been made here, not some crooked money deal. I'll go ahead and tell you that at best his original deer cape might have been able to be sold on the open market for $200. But then the taxidermist has to spend another $150 to replace it with the one he got. So at best this taxidermist would be gambling with his reputation and commiting a crime for what might profit him $50???????? I don't know any reputable taxidermist that would be that stupid. But you think Arson and puting peoples lives at risk are an even enough swap for your hurt feelings about a deer cape????????

 

[Tristate]

>I'd demand the taxi figure this
>out! I wouldn't have
>paid him either.
>
>
>Damn pisscutters.

Taxidermist may never be able to get to the bottom of it. Tanner points fingers at him, he points fingers at tanner, nobody ever knows.

 

[shooter21]

That flat out sucks .The chance of this being a mix up at the tannery is slim the taxi should have them taged and the tag dosnt come off.The deer you killed had a good sized neck and capes like that are harder to come buy than just an average pre rut cape they should have a ton of extra smaller capes .Not saying this is what happen but your cape could of been sold to some one that needed a cape for a larger antlerd deer .but in the end you killed a nice deer and atleast you didnt get the wrong horns on it lol.

 

[Tristate]

"That flat out sucks ."

Yep.

"The chance of this being a mix up at the tannery is slim the taxi should have them taged and the tag dosnt come off."

Actually chance of mix up is just as high at tannery as it is at taxidermist. Some tanners actually remove tags during certian portions of the process. Some tanners won't accept taged deer at all. Some tanners replace your tag with one they think will survive their process better.

"The deer you killed had a good sized neck and capes like that are harder to come buy than just an average pre rut cape they should have a ton of extra smaller capes .Not saying this is what happen but your cape could of been sold to some one that needed a cape for a larger antlerd deer ."

And how much profit is in that? Really, those capes aren't worth as much as you think.

"but in the end you killed a nice deer and atleast you didnt get the wrong horns on it lol."

The most common mistakes I see with taxidermists and the old cape mix-up is the taxidermist doesn't communicate with the client correctly. It is more commonly the problem that the cape is ruined in some way and the taxidermist thinks replacing it without talking to the client is the right thing to do. Ends up it just screws up the whole transaction.

 

[UTMuleyhunter]

Ask the Taxi about it. Its common for taxis to use a numeric system of hole notches on the tail end of the cape to prevent a mix up even if the tag is lost during the tanning process. For example, 3 vertical small holes followed by 2 vertical holes. That setup will represent number 32, so Taxi documents cape #32 belongs to (Joe Hunter).

Either it was an honest mix up, or the original cape was damaged (hair slippage)or lost, so the Taxi decided to use another cape without first discussing issue with the client. Capes really aren't worth a whole lot like Tristate just mentioned.

Bottom line though is you still didn't get the right cape, which really stinks.

 

[sageadvice]

Tristate, It happened! enough making excuses for the taxi guy!

"Capes really aren't worth a whole lot like Tristate just mentioned. "

Maybe to you guys but there are things worth far more than the money and a prized cape from a special hunt is one of them.

I'm with above, Burn his house down!! j/k

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"

 

[UTMuleyhunter]

sageadvice- my point is the cape is not worth the $ on the open market to steal from a client and sell it for gain. The Taxi has far more to lose. i.e. reputation!

From a client's perspective, the cape is priceless.

I get it. I'm a Taxi myself.

 

[sageadvice]

UTM, i knew and believe everybody else knew what your point was in the value of a cape, it, you guys comments about cape value, just didn't look or sound right when looking at it from the clients side of things...and so it goes

I did or helped do most all of my taxi work from my taken bucks with their original distinctive capes. The guy that disses on my stuff had best be a very good friend or he can get the f$$K out of my home!

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"

 

[Tristate]

Sage,

No one here is making excuses for the taxidermist. A couple of posts here hinted that fiscal corruption was the cause for this incident. I was trying to bring to light how little a person would actually profit from such behavior. Plus there were some misconceptions as to how the taxidermy/tannery relationship works. I am not protecting the taxidermist from his business responsibility to his client. However the repeated stance of burning down a mans house disgusts me. I understand the personal attachment to ones trophy, but to compare that to the loss of someone's lifetime investment like his home while endangering family which have nothing to do with the business dispute, is a diseased thought. Second a bunch of good men called firefighters are going to show up and put their asses on the line to put it out regardless of your dispute. Last, people's home owners insurance in that area will be driven up, and they had nothing to o with the dispute. Let's start behaving like gentlemen please.

 

[TOPGUN]

I can't believe this, but I have to agree with you 100% and then some on this one Tri!!!

 

[sageadvice]

Tri, you need to relax a bit. I think you don't give credit enough for most on here about their misconceptions but in any case you sure seemed to be covering for the taxi guy to me.

In the case of Goatroper, yes, IMO he is mental as all of us are to some degree and in my case, i was a volunteer Fireman, EMT, and hospital worker in our small community for many years so i've seen up close and personal, my share of others misery.

To say that it is "your dispute", meaning my dispute, makes you a royal aZZ-hole, plain and simple!! I've leaned that way for awhile now from some of your other posts but now i know for sure. good day!

For your info, lol, , and J/K means sarcasm or jokeing!!

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"

 

[7thgenmt]

Your cape ended up on someones mount who was willing to pay good money for a great cape,mixups like that dont happen,everything is tagged with your name.He was hoping you wouldnt notice,demand a refund or take him to small claims court.

 

[goinhuntn]

I would definately make the taxi responsible! Either he give you a full refund and you keep your mount or he compensates you someway else. I own a small construction company and if I don't honor my contracts I don't get paid plain & simple.

 

[Timberdoodle]

Thanks for the comments, and thanks to Roy for rotating the picts - not sure how that happened. Of course i'm pretty disgusted with the whole situation. Doesn't mean i want to burn anything or wish anyone harm though. I would like to think it was some sort of honest mistake rather than the cape being given to someone else. As some of you mentioned, i would think reputation is much more valuable than the immediate short term possible benefit.

FWIW, the taxidermist has offered to do a number of things, including finding another cape, but at the end of the day, if it isn't my cape, it doesn't really take any of the sting away. I'd almost rather just have the antlers on a plaque along with pictures of the buck than have to look at someone else's deer with my deer's antlers stuck on top. At this point i'm still trying to weigh my options.

 

[doggbiter]

I think maybe if you kill a good buck, with a mediocre cape you might want to take it to TriState! Only 50 dollars extra!

 

[ShowThemToMe]

Well Doodle!

Look at it this way!

The PISSCUTTER Cape makes the Rack look bigger!



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I've got Wild Honey Tree's and Crazy Little Weeds growin around my Shack!
These Dusty Roads ain't streets of gold but I'm happy right where I'm at!
All these Perty little Western Belles are a Country Boys Dream!
They ain't got Wings or MM Halo's but they sure look good to me!

 

[NickM]

Damn pisscutters

 

[Tristate]

>I think maybe if you kill
>a good buck, with a
>mediocre cape you might want
>to take it to TriState!
> Only 50 dollars extra!
>


Not sure what is $50 extra but I would be glad to mount any muledeer for members here, and we do a damn good job with a better than average turnaround time. Price is $650 and thats all sizes whether they are a toad or a "pisscutter". If Timberdoodle would like his deer remounted I can replace his cape with an absolute beast I have in stock right now for an additional $200. The cape is allready tanned and we could have the deer back to him in 3 weeks. If he would like his taxidermist to do the work he can put his taxidermist in touch with me and I would be glad to sell and ship the cape directly to him. We are glad to help anyone in any way we can.

 

[galvanized]

I think the guy that said burn him out meant that in a figurative sense. If he was serious god help us. A good taxidermist should always take pictures and measurements. That is BS that he got a different cape. I would be pissed off and he would give me my money back or I would drag him to court and smear his name a little. Honest mistake my arse! It sounds like one guy even tried to profit of off the guy that got screwed in the first place. You are some piece of work if you defend this guy even in the least little bit. I have a taxidermist that does excellent work for some big names and he dont charge 650, that is robbery in itself. If he still had my cape he would redo the mount. I wouldnt have paid him in the first place until he made it right.

 

[galvanized]

Hey Tristate, if it is just a silly ol-mount why dont you do it for free since you all but kissed the other taxidermist on the butt. Really are you freaking serious right now. You are out of your simple mind if you think this guy didnt flat out get shafted. Then you stand here and try to profit of off this situation. Im and ex-military officer and try to do what is right and you sir are as bad as the other taxidermist. 150 for the other hide is BS. They can buy those from things from packing plants for little to nothing. You are full of it dude.

 

[mulemanrack]

I fill your pain buddy....same thing happened to me and the taxi blamed it on the tanner also. Just curious if this same taxi is still up to his old tricks of lying and cheating people. Send me a PM and let me know who your taxi was.

 

[Tristate]

>"Hey Tristate, if it is just
>a silly ol-mount why dont
>you do it for free
>since you all but kissed
>the other taxidermist on the
>butt. "

First I never kissed anyone else's butt. I just tried to educate some people about how taxidermy works. Let's get this straight. You think if someone else screws up a mount I should have to remount it for free???? Do you have any concept of liberty and free enterprise boy.

"Really are you freaking
>serious right now. You are
>out of your simple mind
>if you think this guy
>didnt flat out get shafted. "

I never said he didn't get a Bad deal. Go back and read.

>"Then you stand here and
>try to profit of off
>this situation. Im and ex-military
>officer and try to do
>what is right and you
>sir are as bad as
>the other taxidermist. "

Yes. I own a business. Do you cuss the people that fix cars after a crash? Are you that dumb as to how business works?

"150 for
>the other hide is BS.
>They can buy those from
>things from packing plants for
>little to nothing. You are
>full of it dude. "

Does the packing plant flesh it, salt it, ship it to a tanner, pay for tanning, pay for shipping back, and store it until use? No they don't. I run a business boy, and I am no slave to you or anyone else.

 

[galvanized]

I never said you should automatically redo it for free. I just said if it is just a dumb ol-deer as you yourself said. You acted as if it isnt really that big a deal to get bent out of shape its just a dumb ol-deer. If everyone else thought like that you wouldnt be running a business very long boy. It is a big deal because he paid this man for a service. I understand that things can and do happen. If that is the case then he should have made it right with the man and his mount. He should have known if he would have taken pictures. The reason I said you should do it for free is you really made it sound as if it wasnt really that big of an issue and gave us all the reasons or instances where this could have gone wrong. Instead you should have felt the guys pain and then contcted him with a pm and offered your services. You say all of this stuff about the tanner and packing plants like no one else would ever have a clue as to how much work it takes. I do know both sides and it aint easy I know. I also know that a big cape is a premium and it aint the first time Ive seen someone get jacked on a prime cape. If I was running a buisiness I would never offer my services in an open forum after a guy got screwed and I pointed out all the places that he may have been wronged. Just say it like it is. Yep you got bad mount. Like I say, im a retired army officer and I COULD RUN A BUISINESS. The hard part is keeping yourself 100% honest. Money ruins some not all. You are honest the other taxidermist maybe not so much.

 

[Tristate]

I never said it wasn't a big deal. I said it isn't worth "burning someones house down, and it isn't. As for posting openly the prices and service I offer I had a reason. If you go back and read, someone else posted this.

"I think maybe if you kill a good buck, with a mediocre cape you might want to take it to TriState! Only 50 dollars extra!"

If someone publicly wants to mis-inform the forum about my pricing I have a public obligation to tell the truth.

Then you say,

"Just say it like it is. Yep you got bad mount."

Slow down and go back and read post #12. I said that.