MUST SEE KILLSHOT---UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cobra55

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After attending an open forum put on by the DWR in regards to deer numbers in SE Utah and specifically on the Elk Ridge LE unit, I do not have any direct quotes but my understanding taken from this forum was that the DWR didn't feel that the bear population was large enough to hurt our deer population and that they felt that bears only killed deer when they were newborn fawns, well here is undisputed proof that bears kill more than just young newborn fawns. The Elk Ridge unit used to be one of the best units in the state, but with the number of predators we have in our part of Utah, I am afraid the deer numbers will never increase without a drastic predator control program. I don't want to see all predators gone but I would rather see deer on the Elk Ridge how it used to be when I was a kid.
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Wow what an amazing pic capture. Face looks like a fawn to me but then that doesnt explain the long leg sticking up. Definitely not a buck. I agree the predators have been give to much leeway in the West. It's time for sportsmen everywhere to stop laying down at taking it. For those of you that know anything of Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana they have been to hell and back with their wolves. Utah, Colorado, etc are next. Are you ready?
 
That is very cool pic, but sad. I'm thinking its a fawn. You are seeing most of that leg and its not that long.

Yelum
 
That is definately a fawn. Its ears are the same size as its head.
Still impressive for a bear to catch a deer as old as that fawn though. It makes me wonder if there wasn't something wrong with it already?

Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"
 
If that is a fawn, that is an awfully small bear as the body of the deer is as long as the bear. Deer leg length is long compared to bear as well. I vote at least a yearling.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
I'd have to agree with reducing the predator population. My thought is... for the bear to have targeted & caught the deer, it has been doing this for a while!

And if someone has noticed the differnce in quantity-quality of game it's already had an affect.
 
The idea of reducing predators to increase deer numbers goes beyond the anecdotal. Arizona did a long-term scientific study which simply proved what those of us who spend any real time outdoors already know.........predators (most-specifically lions) kill huge numbers of deer.

Due to the non-politically-correct nature of the results, it's not WIDELY publicized but it's detailed and published.


Within the shadows, go quietly.
 
agreed, when I was a kid, it was kind of hard to see a bear on elk ridge, now its hard not to see one out there.
 
It doesn't matter if it's a yearling or a fawn. It's a dead deer and all predator numbers need to be balanced with prey base to reach population objectives. A lot of bears on San Juan.
 
Thanks for sharing.

The date on the camera is in September. Most fawns are born in June. Clearly it is not a newborn fawn.

A bear's got to eat. The more bears there are, the more groceries, they're gonna be needing. I hear there's a lot of bears in that area, therefore the cupboards may be getting pretty bare. Too bad we can't give the deer a chance to re-stock the cupboard.
 
Yes the date is on the picture is correct. It just makes me wonder how many deer get caught like this one?
 

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