Yeah txhunter I was caught in the point creep a couple years ago and was wanting to find a unit where I could hunt every few years so I finally used my points on what was supposed to be a good unit. We'll I'm not saying it was a terrible unit a guy could kill a buck there pretty easy but I did not see much quality. The problem is some of these units get way too much hype, not saying they don't hold good bucks but so do a lot of the units that take less points, you just have to work a little harder for them. Colorado has way too much opportunity to only hunt it every 15 or so years!