Bend Or. town Buck

manny53

manny53

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looks like he went down hill a bit...

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ODFW shared these photos of how staff from Bend yesterdasy removed heavy gauge wire stuck around the throat and antlers of "Buck Norris" after ODFW biologists determined the wire was potentially life-threatening to the deer. ?Buck Norris? is a well-known mule deer in the Bend area (and around the state) due to his large, non-typical antlers. He was safely released after the procedure, but does have an ear tag to indicate the presence of immobilization drugs in his system (a standard practice whenever ODFW must sedate and release a game animal).
 
He's still quite impressive!
I hope he makes it and some lucky hunter can legally pursue the buck some place in the wild.
Do you know if they turned him loose back in town?
Zeke
 
>He's still quite impressive!
>I hope he makes it and
>some lucky hunter can legally
>pursue the buck some place
>in the wild.
>Do you know if they turned
>him loose back in town?
>
>Zeke


Yea knowing that the vast majority of transplanted Mule deer die, they should have turned him loose 100s of miles from his home turf so some lucky legal hunter can pursue him.
 
he ain't dumb all he has to do to be a legal harvest is travel 4 miles east outta town, now that's not far for a deer of his caliber?...
 
Thanks for posting Manny I hadn't seen that deer he is truly an impressive animal. If I killed that deer I would care less that he doesn't make the books. I have been lucky enough to take several book animals and never entered one in the book and they haven't shrunk at all.
 
This Buck wouldn't last 5 minutes on the DownTown Wasatch!









[font color="red"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5NmLZ39iDg
 
>He can never go in the
>B&C record books now.
>Thanks

uh....says who???....



"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
>He can never go in the
>B&C record books now.
>Thanks

Who gave you that misinformation?

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
>>He can never go in the
>>B&C record books now.
>>Thanks
>
>Who gave you that misinformation?
>
>BOHNTR )))---------->

This should be good. You should know better than to contradict Tristate.


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They should have left the two antlers wired together. If you find one shed, you find them both.:)

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
I read somewhere that they implanted, or were going to, a small GPS type device hidden inside a part of his antlers along with the one in the ear tag. The moment the two separate or suddenly leave the whole area, the antlers have either been dropped or the animal has been killed by somebody. Those locations are monitored and documented.

Though i'm not a big fan of "marking" wild bucks, maybe in this case it will help this buck live it's natural life without being sniped for his rack.

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Hey guys, I could be wrong but I have a close friend who is a member of B&C, and he has told me repeatedly that they will not recognize animals that have been knowingly handled by people. Any animal carrying tattoos ear tags or radio collars are all excluded. It came up in a conversation about a managed low fence ranch here in Texas that was allowing grad students to study their whitetail. One of the grad students ear tagged almost every 1 year old buck he could two years in a row and effectively slammed the door on several potential boomers they killed there several years later.

Again, could I have misunderstood something? yep, but i have seen this situation emerge a few times in my career and I have always been told the critter is out.
 
I'm sure it's been posted before , but does anybody have consecutive years from this great beast of a buck ? And are you kidding ! It would be like shooting your neighbors dog to shoot him now ! Even if they did haul him off hundreds of miles away, it just wouldn't do the buck justice for it to end that way ! Makes me wish I lived in Oregon !
 
To double check I just called my friend in B&C. He was pretty annoyed at the direction the fish and wildlife officials took with this deer and he said at this time the deer is out. He did say that doesn't mean the rules about this could never be changed in the future but currently the buck is out.

It was interesting to hear his stance that his main point was that a state employee decided it was ok to deface our property for no legitimate reason at all. He basicly sees an ear tag as no different than spray painting a national monument.
 
From what I read it's a public health deal, so that if u harvest it u know it was tranqed. Any chance they use a tag that quickly deteriorates and falls off in 6 months?
 
>To double check I just called
>my friend in B&C.
>He was pretty annoyed at
>the direction the fish and
>wildlife officials took with this
>deer and he said at
>this time the deer is
>out. He did say
>that doesn't mean the rules
>about this could never be
>changed in the future but
>currently the buck is out.
>
>
>It was interesting to hear his
>stance that his main point
>was that a state employee
>decided it was ok to
>deface our property for no
>legitimate reason at all.
>He basicly sees an ear
>tag as no different than
>spray painting a national monument.
>



Too bad there isnt a B&C OM on here that could give us their first hand take on this.



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LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-14 AT 04:47PM (MST)[p]I'm sorry Tristate, maybe I am reading your posts incorrectly (which has been known to happen). However, your buddy is misinformed with that blanket statement. Ear tags, collars, etc., do NOT automatically exclude animals from entry into the B&C or P&Y records program.....nor does an animal being handled by G&F personnel. If that was the case, there would be numerous animals ineligible when they are tested for CWD and tagged with a G&F ear tag over the last 5 years......not to mention some of the transplanted deer that have just taken place in some Western states.

As an official measurer for both Clubs, and also a records committee member, I've never heard of that rule.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
For p&y I have no idea. Maybe the rules are the same and maybe not. I am going to stick with my friend's say on this one with B&C. I know you are a scorer and I am sure you are knowledgeable but this guy goes a little higher than that.

Do you have evidence of a CWD tagged deer being accepted into the B&C books?
 
" I know you are a scorer and I am sure you are knowledgeable but this guy goes a little higher than that."

Tri, you might be assuming a bit too much there,just sayin!

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
I may be Sage. But I am not assuming what my friends credentials are. I am not saying that my friend has never been wrong and we have had many discussions about all sorts of subjects. But the three things I don't doubt him on is vet medicine, field judging pronghorn, and the inner workings of the B&C club. Is it possible there are differing opinions within the club? Maybe. Is it possible its a lot more complicated than I have made it out to be? Sure.
 
OK, i stuck my nose in about as far as i'm going to. I do know that BOHNTR rarely if ever speaks of his lofty accomplishments within the Boone and Crockett Club Organization but he's certainly VERY well respected among the other Official Measures and Members alike.

As we all can agree, there could be more issues brought into play and this being a "town" buck, hopefully, he'll live a long and fruitful life passing those genes onto other deer.

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Tristate:

I know of a few animals entered with G&F ear tags.....on deer and elk (Kentucky elk come to mind more recently). Evidence?....well probably not on those specific animals so I can not oblige there. However, please see the attached link and scroll down to the "WA/ID Ram" entry and tell me what you see/read. Not trying to argue with you, sir.....just trying to reduce the amount of misinformation that is often relayed about the B&C and P&Y Clubs, respectively. As for your buddy being someone "higher" in the Club......tell your buddy to call Jack Reneau and ask that question......he'll get the correct answer.

http://www.boone-crockett.org/news/trophyWatch_month.asp?area=news&year=2010&month=9



BOHNTR )))---------->
 
Ok girls ! Now what was the original topic about again? ...........Oh yea ,a big ole buck , that's why I like MM , and I'm sure most of us do for the same reasons , let's try to keep the drama out fellas!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-14 AT 07:02PM (MST)[p]"Ok girls ! Now what was the original topic about again? ...........Oh yea ,a big ole buck , that's why I like MM , and I'm sure most of us do for the same reasons , let's try to keep the drama out fellas!"


Drama? We are talking of that buck in the topic. Your post is Drama! Calling people Discussing the topic Girls?

Enough with your own Drama, don't need it here!!

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Much thanks for the link and follow up bow hunter. The ram in picture wasn't killed by a hunter and I think my friend is specifically talking about hunted trophies. I will look into the Kentucky elk reference. I understand you are trying to sort out misinformation about the B&C club, that's exactly what my friend is doing also. Sounds like the club itself is confused. Maybe y'all can address this in your club publication.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-14 AT 08:00PM (MST)[p].....well, have Jack Reneau call and fill me in tristate....would you please...tell him B174 needs to know.


"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
Better check that link of BOHNTRs again Tristate. The "WA/ID" ram he is referring to was indeed killed by a hunter. It's the seventh animal from the bottom. Not the Alberta ram on bottom.

I can think of other hunter killed animals that were entered into B&C that had been handled by humans.


[font color="blue"]I don't make the soup,I just stir it.[/font]
 
Tristate,

well....you and your friend apparently know more about the entry rules than the head of records.....have him inform his OM's....we need to know these things...



"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
If you want people to understand you Zigger you need to make direct statements. Nobody is being a smarta$$ here except you and NVB. Maybe the director needs to call you about the face you put on the club.
 
ThAnks for the clarification NVB. However nowhere in that updAte does it say that ram is in the books.
 
Wow! Rifle opens Saturday I wonder if I should hold out for a buck in that category. lol. Absolutely awesome.
 
Cornhusker,

If you or any other MM member gets that buck and posts it it will be one of the greatest moments on these forums.
 
>If you want people to understand
>you Zigger you need to
>make direct statements. Nobody
>is being a smarta$$ here
>except you and NVB.
>Maybe the director needs to
>call you about the face
>you put on the club.
>

OK Tristate, No smartass comments from me in this post.

On one hand we have two B&C official measurers who are saying your perception and information is incorrect. They are not related to each other and I do not even know if they know each other. One I do not know but seems to be a very standup guy. The other I do know personally and when it comes to the OM duties, he is very serious about his job.

On the other hand we have you and you are saying you "know a guy" who is "high up in B&C".

As I said, I know of hunter killed animals that have been handled by humans that are listed in B&C. Here in Nevada we have had a very aggressive program of re-establishing bighorn sheep, and other species as well, to their historic range (including the desert bighorn in Texas). That program has involved trapping and transplanting animals (usually marked or even collared) from all over the west and releasing them. Many times those releases have included male animals that eventually grew up and may have been taken by hunters. Sometimes those animals have been of size and proportion to qualify for B&C and may have been accepted by B&C into the "book". I've never heard of a single one of them being denied because they were handled by humans.

So who should we believe here?


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I'll come score it for you corny......just remember that fair chase affidavit you'll be required to sign....


"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
Thanks Zigger where I hunt in Ne. we occasionally kill a buck in the 170's and once I took a kid out muzzle loader hunting that killed the 4th best in the state 184 something so you can tell a deer like that to me is beyond belief. Genetics is a wonderful thing I will probably shoot a crab claw buck that I've watched for 3 years he has bad genetics needs to be eliminated.
 
I'll be in Nebraska whacking a couple WT does with my bow over Thanksgiving. Not quite the trophy class of the Bend buck but it's still hunting!
Zeke
 
Zeke agreed! I assume you'll be somewhere near your daughter in Ogallala about 80 miles west of me, good luck I'll arrow a doe to fill the freezer once rifle is over. I watched the biggest mule deer buck I've seen in my area all summer and worked on him throughout archery I lost where he's been hanging about 2 weeks ago. Might find him again this weekend, a good reason to get up and go with sub- zero windchill.
 
...... a good reason to get up and go with sub- zero windchill.

ouch....it was 75 here today....



"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
>...... a good reason to get
>up and go with sub-
>zero windchill.
>
>ouch....it was 75 here today....
>
>
>
>"As democracy is perfected, the office
>of the President represents, more
>and more closely, the inner
>soul of the people.
>On some great and glorious
>day, the plain folks of
>the land will reach their
>heart's desire at last and
>the White House will be
>occupied by a downright fool
>and complete narcissistic moron."
>- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore
>Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
>


Thinkin "longbow" from the pickup cab zig? :D
 
>
>
>Thinkin "longbow" from the pickup cab
>zig? :D

Careful DW, some of us have already been called poachers by dudes that don't even know us! Lol

I sure hope it warms up for my trip to my daughter's place for thanksgiving! Brrrrrrr
Zeke
 
It hit here this am. Dusting of snow 15 degrees out and 30mph gusts. 70 degrees yesterday, poof it's winter! Forget how it went...somethin, somethin, if they can't take a joke? Oh well it'll come to me.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-11-14 AT 09:47AM (MST)[p]Amazing buck.

B&C accepts all kinds of entries including road kills, pick-ups, dead-heads, etc. If they had some kind of "human handling" rule, there'd certainly be far less bighorn sheep in the books, since many are ear tagged, radio collared, transplanted, and etc.
 
Why keep posting he said she said arguments? I will keep trying to find a hard answer one way or the other. I will let you know if I find something whether it confirms what I said or otherwise.
 
...answers don't get much harder than bohntr's .....but investigate to your heart's content.




"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
Zigger,

If you have two officials from the same club telling you two different things what do you do? Really? I am sure Bohntr is telling it just like he knows it and I am sure my friend is doing the same. Like I told Bohuntr, before it sounds like the confusion he wants to dispel is in his club and not just out here for all of us hunting peons.

So yes I will investigate because I knowing for sure makes my heart content. Taking someone's word from an internet forum over the word of someone I know face to face doesn't cut the mustard in the real world. Maybe that's how things work if you are a B&C scorer. If that's the case I am loosing respect for yall as a club quickly.
 
>Zigger,
>
>If you have two officials from
>the same club telling you
>two different things what do
>you do? Really?
>I am sure Bohntr is
>telling it just like he
>knows it and I am
>sure my friend is doing
>the same. Like I
>told Bohuntr, before it sounds
>like the confusion he wants
>to dispel is in his
>club and not just out
>here for all of us
>hunting peons.
>


BOHNTR gave you a quick way to find out the truth. Call!



>So yes I will investigate because
>I knowing for sure makes
>my heart content. Taking
>someone's word from an internet
>forum over the word of
>someone I know face to
>face doesn't cut the mustard
>in the real world.

Ditto



>Maybe that's how things work
>if you are a B&C
>scorer. If that's the
>case I am loosing respect
>for yall as a club
>quickly.

Now you're gonna try to discredit B&C because you think you're right and two OMs tell you that you're not. I think they call that a smoke screen.


Producing evidence of an animal that was listed with an ear tag may or may not prove anything. Better evidence would be to produce someone who has been denied because of that. Better yet would be written documentation from your "friend" showing B&Cs official position. Even better would be to call as BOHNTR suggested. It's pretty obvious nothing anyone here can say, or even evidence produced, will convince you. You will have some handy reason to not believe it anyway.


[font color="blue"]I don't make the soup,I just stir it.[/font]
 
NVB,

I am not discrediting B&C. I am trying to get past the he said she said BS that you love so much and find something in a written ruling. Getting Jack to tell me something over the phone isn't an answer to this anymore. I already have three people saying two different things from B&C. By the way you nor anyone else has shown a sport hunted trophy that went in the books that had an ear tag. You think I argue about whether I am right. I DON"T KNOW IF I AM RIGHT. I Don't know if Bohuntr is right. I don't know if my friend is right. You want to make this whole thread about me?

Last question, DO you worship me? I mean really worship can be love or hate and it seems the only reason you exist on here is because of me. Thankyou. I have always wanted a stalker.
 
>
>Last question, DO you worship
>me?

Worship you? LOL! No I find it interesting that I now have internet proof that mules CAN reproduce.



>people saying two different things
> By the
>way you nor anyone else
>has shown a sport hunted
>trophy that went in the
>books that had an ear
>tag.



From Post 38. Tristate said:
"ThAnks for the clarification NVB. However nowhere in that updAte does it say that ram is in the books. "

OK, so follow these pictures with links provided for verification. Will this suffice as evidence that this ram, that was clearly "handled by humans", is in the books?

http://www.boone-crockett.org/news/trophyWatch_month.asp?area=news&year=2010&month=9
9894wa_id_ram.jpg



http://www.wafnaws.com/gallery2.htm
5797cole_wimbles.jpg



http://issuu.com/booneandcrockettclub/docs/28th-preview

http://issuu.com/booneandcrockettclub/docs/28th-preview/12?e=3452620/5668742
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Thankyou NVB for doing something constructive today. This brings up a couple of other questions.

Why does B&C claim it has seventeen inch bases on its website and enter something else in its books. After all you provide the "internet proof".

Second is killing an animal that you can track with yagi fair chase? Maybe they can consider it fair chase since everyone can track it using radios???

"internet proof" that's got to be the best line I have heard today.
 
>Thankyou NVB for doing something constructive
>today. This brings up
>a couple of other questions.
>
>
>Why does B&C claim it has
>seventeen inch bases on its
>website and enter something else
>in its books. After
>all you provide the "internet
>proof".

Looking at the date of the picture in trophy watch the update occurred on 9/21/10. It seems unlikely that the 60 day drying period would have been up by then. That was probably an unofficial green measurement. What is in the book is the official measurement. Just my guess since I have no proof.


>
>Second is killing an animal that
>you can track with yagi
>fair chase? Maybe they
>can consider it fair chase
>since everyone can track it
>using radios???
>

That might be another question for Jack Reneau. However, there is that fairchase statement that must be signed that says you did not do anything that gave unfair advantage to the hunter. That would cover it as long as the hunter is honest. Of course the same could apply to using airplanes, helicopters, etc. It is only as good as the integrity of the hunter. Much like self reporting a crippling loss would be under a "wound one - you're done" hypothetical law.

I do know that the batteries in those collars do not last forever. I also know that the frequencies of the collars are usually restricted but that wouldn't make it impossible to gain access to them.




>"internet proof" that's got to
>be the best line I
>have heard today.

Glad I could give you a laugh. You do understand it was tongue in cheek sarcasm, don't you?


[font color="blue"]I don't make the soup,I just stir it.[/font]
 
If Tristate did call Jack Reneau, how could he be sure it was Jack Reneau he was really talking to?

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
For that matter couldn't I just say I talked with jack and he said my other friend was right :D. I mean after all this is all internet proof.
 
Bingo!:)

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
406-542-1888


"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
ttt

"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
 
Just so we can put this to rest, I took the liberty to e-mail Jack Reneau (Director of Records for B&C) and received this official response.....and before you ask, the buck stops with Jack:

"The answer to your question is, ?Yes!? trophies transplanted by game and fish personnel are eligible for entry in B&C.

Here was my original question, in case you're wondering:

"Are animals that are transplanted, tested, relocated, or otherwise temporarily handled by G&F personnel for the purpose of carrying out their official duties (problem bears tagged, collared sheep, ear tagged deer tested for CWD, etc.) eligible for entry into the records program? I know they are, I just need to hear it officially from you."


BOHNTR )))---------->
 
What is the difference in the club between the Chairman and the Director of Records and where would Dr. Richard Hale fit into this?
 
They are all members of the board that oversee the entire Club....all aspects (legislative, conservation, etc.) The director of Records is just that.....in charge of the big game records program.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
I understand they are all members of the board. I am asking which is the higher position of authority Chairman of Records or Director of Records.
 
For the records program....there isn't any.

B&C has a full governing board made up of elected and appointed positions alike. Most Club issues, initiatives, changes, etc., are voted on by the entire board. Simple majority is utilized here.....there is no one person who can overturn or overrule a decision made by the board without majority approval.

For matters on questionable entries, the board relies on the Director of Records and his records committee for recommendations and decisions based on policies in place and historical decisions.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-19-14 AT 02:56PM (MST)[p]Every and anything that involves the big game records program.

There is a Vice-president of records as well "Buck" Buckner that relies on the Director of Records (Jack Reneau) for the everyday record keeping and paperwork that entails. Not sure if that is what you're looking for?

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
What I am trying to figure out is if the Director is the end of the line like you state or whether The chairman Richard Hale is the end of the line and authority?
 
Doesn't work like that.....there is no ruler of the throne per se when it comes to issues like allowing animals into the records program.



BOHNTR )))---------->
 
I feel for ya Roy, lol. I tried arguing with an idiot once, (not saying Tri is one), and even if they know they are dead wrong, they will keep arguing until you give up.

Yelum

YBU

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For issues with the records program...yes it does.

Main point here; the information you received was inaccurate....as pointed out by a few official measurers in this thread. It's important to ensure misinformation is dispelled when it comes to these types of discussions, as people form opinions on these threads sometimes.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
Heres more proof. There are those that swear the spider bull was farm raised and ear tagged. So after the WDR removed the ear tags. He went into the books. haha

Yelum

YBU

7019yelumlogosig2.jpg
 
There comes a point in every guys life that he has to say,

" You know what? i was wrong in what i said. I had gotten it different but now that you have clarified the issue for me, i stand corrected and thank you for the time you took to help me understand how it works."

I tried to say that more than once, but it hurts! :)

Joey


It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Yelum,

I am not arguing over whether this deer would go in the book anymore. I am relatively sure that more than likely bohuntr is correct with his information. The second discussion is more of an interest to me about the structure of the club and where the buck actually stops. Bohuntr says he is trying to dispel misinformation outside of the club. My only point is he needs to work on what is being dispelled by the club itself becuase this misinformation came from one of their high ranking members.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-19-14 AT 11:38PM (MST)[p]Per the last sentence in Post # 85.......I really don't think BOHUNTR needs to work on one dammed thing. And, I have no dog in this debate.....but there comes a time when one needs to sit back & decide how creditable he really is in all other threads when you still confuse perceived reality with hard core facts such as in this firmly debated thread.

To those (Roy) who have kept more than polite......kudo's!!!

As Zigger says ".......lol....."
 
I've learned a lot from this post.
#1, bohntr seems like a very knowledgeable man. Think you got taking the time to straighten this mess out. It's very respectful of you to be able to keep cool when someone is pointlessly during with you because they can't admit they are wrong, even though 10,000 people reading this post realized that he didn't have a clue what he was talking about and looks like a moron

#2 I've heard a lot of people call out tristate fit being an idiot who will argue with anyone no matter how stupid he looks. Though until I just read this post tonight I had never seen it myself. At this point, anything less than a reply stating that he is 100% wrong, and thanking bohnter for his time in proving with out a doubt that he is correct, will show that he is all mouth and full of dog schitt

I actually think that tri state absolutely just lied about "his friend" telling him that in the first place. I think he made it up just to try and make his point and didn't expect REAL score guys to call him on it.
 
Brokenneck,

I have told no lies here and you have no cause to say such. I am pretty sure I have thanked bohuntr on a previous post and the only person up until now who was rude was Zigger and NVB.

If you haven't figured it out I like discussion and solid real facts. Not internet gossip. I liked talking with Bohuntr. We don't need to call each other names and it isn't some form of right or wrong pi$$ing match. I know that is hard for many to understand on an internet forum.

As for what I expected on this thread I know three different Real B&C scorers personally. One comes in my shop about every two weeks. He scored an antelope here two weeks ago and it took him a day to find out if it was elligable because the horns were already set with filler. Then after finishing he found out he had scored it all incorrectly because he used the cable and not steel tape. Score guys get it wrong sometimes just like you and me. So I know they are all over the place even on these threads and I know they try to get it right but sometimes they get it wrong.
 
"I have told no lies here and you have no cause to say such. I am pretty sure I have thanked bohuntr on a previous post and the only person up until now who was rude was Zigger and NVB."


Please tell me which post I made in this thread that was rude. I called you on your incorrect "facts" and provided the proof you asked for.


So in one post you say... "I am relatively sure that more than likely bohuntr is correct with his information."

Then in another you say...

"As for what I expected on this thread I know three different Real B&C scorers personally." (your own emphasis added by capitalizing the word real)



So from that is it fair to assume that you do not consider BOHNTR or the other B&C OM on this thread to be Real?


"relatively sure that more than likely..." LOL! Sounds genuine to me.



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oh....thanks alot NVB....so I'm the only rude one????....lol........at least I knew what I was talking about...


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You're a big boy zigger. Fight your own fights. :)

I actually got bored going back reading mine so I knew I couldn't get through yours.


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