1082 and 960 Yard Muley Double

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-14 AT 06:04PM (MST)[p]

Last month my friend joined me for a deer hunt here in Idaho, we found two great bucks chasing the same herd of does around so I got behind the gun and was able to make a great shot at 1082 yards, after my buck went down my friend got behind the gun and took this great 28.5" wide buck at 960 yards

Here's the video link
 
God forbid if you think that's great. If there's anything wrong with the direction hunting is heading its in the long shot direction if you were to ask me. What ever happened to hunting a buck and not just shooting one?
 
The Gun must shoot a little to the Left at a 1,000!





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Getting sick of the long range #####! There is no sport in it at all! It is a sad direction we are heading when shooting at animals is more about how far I can shoot vs. how close I can get!

Long range shooting should be left at the range! Hunting should be about doing all you can to get close and make as clean and ethical of a shot possible!

In the last 2 long range videos, guys could not even tell if they had hit. This one takes 2 shots, after the first shot you can easily tell the guy shooting had no idea where the deer had went. They also failed to fully show how long the follow up shot really took and how long the deer struggled before being put down!

Simply put this is not hunting! It is using technology to shoot animals that are so far away! Next time go actually hunt and shoot a buck on even a slightly level playing field!
 
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>The Gun must shoot a little
>to the Left at a
>1,000!
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The gun is dead on at 1000 just compensated too much for wind
 
>God forbid if you think that's
>great. If there's anything
>wrong with the direction hunting
>is heading its in the
>long shot direction if you
>were to ask me.
>What ever happened to hunting
>a buck and not just
>shooting one?


Sorry you don't like the method I chose to take this deer, here's a video I think you'll enjoy of myself hunting with a recurve

 
So?

What kinda Energy does the Bullet(I won't say Slug!)have at a 1,000?







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>Getting sick of the long range
>#####! There is no sport
>in it at all! It
>is a sad direction we
>are heading when shooting at
>animals is more about how
>far I can shoot vs.
>how close I can get!
>
>
>Long range shooting should be left
>at the range! Hunting should
>be about doing all you
>can to get close and
>make as clean and ethical
>of a shot possible!
>
>In the last 2 long range
>videos, guys could not even
>tell if they had hit.
>This one takes 2 shots,
>after the first shot you
>can easily tell the guy
>shooting had no idea where
>the deer had went. They
>also failed to fully show
>how long the follow up
>shot really took and how
>long the deer struggled before
>being put down!
>
>Simply put this is not hunting!
>It is using technology to
>shoot animals that are so
>far away! Next time go
>actually hunt and shoot a
>buck on even a slightly
>level playing field!


I had no doubt in my mind I hit my deer, I was confused when my friend watching through the spotter thought I shot over it. Wind call was a little off and so yes he had to shoot his deer again it was only a couple minutes between his two shots. I've yet to loose an animal with a rifle and I guarantee a lot more deer are wounded every year on deer drives and not found over a person like myself taking a extended precision shot. I find dead whitetails every year around my house after shotgun season and people stomping around shooting at whatever moves.
 
Blah blah......long range......blah blah......not hunting......blah blah........unethical........blah. We've heard it all before. I say hunt/shoot however you want, have a great time, and give the finger to anyone who trashes your fun. -------SS
 
Regardless of what I think about long range shooting those were both hellacious shots that put the animals down quickly and humanely. I've seen far worse at a lot closer range. Anyone who says otherwise about THESE shots is grasping at straws. It may not be my cup of tea but more power to you.

Thanks for sharing. Nice job on the video too.

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>So?
>
>What kinda Energy does the Bullet(I
>won't say Slug!)have at a
>1,000?
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Im pushing 230 Grain bergers out of a 300RUM, at 1082 it has right at 1950 ft lbs of energy at 960 yards it has 2140 ft lbs of energy
 
Bess,
I know the Nosler 26 that I'm getting ready to put together is hitting at 1300+ pounds with a 129 grain Accubond at 1000 yards.
 
I would have waited until they were a little further out! Whats the point of even wearing all the camo? I would just head straight out from work in my work clothes; no sense in needing anything else. Nothing impressive with this video at all. Lace up the boots and close the distance. Get some!
 
Did I see the guts hanging out on the last buck? Is that why the rifle and backpack are positioned where they are for the interview? Maybe I'm seeing things.
 
>Did I see the guts hanging
>out on the last buck?
>Is that why the rifle
>and backpack are positioned where
>they are for the interview?
>Maybe I'm seeing things.

Nope you aren't seeing things that's why he put another one in him. Those bullets blow base ball size exit holes and I like my pictures to look clean so yes I put the backback there to clean it up and I also put the riflescope in front of the hole in my buck to clean up the pictures as well.
 
Yep I agree that second buck on the first shot looked like he was hit a little far back. Funny terrain...all that snow going in...then where the bucks were shot little snow? Maybe it snows down hill in Idaho? :) great shots in all that wind....a great video maybe should of killed the bucks in snow to make it look more realistic for me.....good shots and bad decisions.....

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-14 AT 09:11PM (MST)[p]>Yep I agree that second buck
>on the first shot looked
>like he was hit a
>little far back. Funny terrain...all
>that snow going in...then where
>the bucks were shot little
>snow? Maybe it snows down
>hill in Idaho? :) great
>shots in all that wind....a
>great video maybe should of
>killed the bucks in snow
>to make it look more
>realistic for me.....good shots and
>bad decisions.....
>
>))))------->

The pass we went through to get into the unit was over 9k feet and alot of snow up there, where we ended up finding deer was clear down in the bottom below the snow after we shot the bucks it started dumping snow on us and barely made it through the pass the next morning. It dropped over a foot of snow that night. Luckily I had my tracks at the truck or we would of had some serious issues getting camp out. It was over a 20 mile ride from the truck to where we set camp.


I wish we would of had more snow!!! That is a migration area and we where just hunting local bucks because the weather hadn't pushed them down yet
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-14 AT 10:19PM (MST)[p]Sot his story just keeps getting better! I had no doubt I hit, but I hit high, second shooter hits the gut and there were only a couple minutes between the shots! My gun is awesome I can shot far and blow baseball sized holes!

This is not hunting! Why not start using motars? Why not a 50 cal gun and not shooting anything under a mile? Why not have a drone with a. Gun and then you can hunt on a computer screen?

It is sad when someone with a small ##### has to come in here and brag about thier lack of ability to get close and instead brags about a gut shot deer with a hole the size of a baseball in it!
 
>LAST EDITED ON Dec-12-14
>AT 10:19?PM (MST)
>
>Sot his story just keeps getting
>better! I had no doubt
>I hit, but I hit
>high, second shooter hits the
>gut and there were only
>a couple minutes between the
>shots! My gun is awesome
>I can shot far and
>blow baseball sized holes!
>
>This is not hunting! Why not
>start using motars? Why not
>a 50 cal gun and
>not shooting anything under a
>mile? Why not have a
>drone with a. Gun and
>then you can hunt on
>a computer screen?
>
>It is sad when someone with
>a small ##### has to
>come in here and brag
>about thier lack of ability
>to get close and instead
>brags about a gut shot
>deer with a hole the
>size of a baseball in
>it!

I didnt hit my deer high?!? Buddy watching through the spotter thought I did but elevation was perfect in his body right behind the shoulder ..... Im sure everything you've shot has been perfect right behind the shoulder shots and you've never had to put a second bullet or arrow in something to finish it off ... simple dont like it dont watch it
 
You guys can shoot no question about it. Anybody who puts in the time can shoot like you. My problem with LR is mature mule deer sustainability. You can reach out at these incredible distances and really take your pick on what deer you want. I know this is not the right direction for us to go as sportsman as the earning of the buck is not in the stalk but in the technology and time spent at the range.

I hear people bitchin bout seeing 50 2 points all seAson and wonder what happened to the big boys that used to be there. This is only going to make things worsen for our mature deer every year.

I can't wait until range finders are banned for the rifle season. Would do our wildlife some good.

I Saw you post about shootin something with a recurve. Didn't watch the video yet but wondered why you would go from that to this? Most people I know who hunt recurve have sworn off rifle as they feel the fun is in being close to the animal.
 
Confidently shoot the buck at long range knowing your limits or sneak in closer for a close shot. Either way the buck is dead.......there's only one degree of dead. I get so tired of the "if you don't hunt the way I do you're not a hunter" attitude around here.

Congrats on some great bucks guys!
 
>You guys can shoot no question
>about it. Anybody who puts
>in the time can shoot
>like you. My problem with
>LR is mature mule deer
>sustainability. You can reach out
>at these incredible distances and
>really take your pick on
>what deer you want. I
>know this is not the
>right direction for us to
>go as sportsman as the
>earning of the buck is
>not in the stalk but
>in the technology and time
>spent at the range.
>
>I hear people bitchin bout seeing
>50 2 points all seAson
>and wonder what happened to
>the big boys that used
>to be there. This is
>only going to make things
>worsen for our mature deer
>every year.
>
>I can't wait until range finders
>are banned for the rifle
>season. Would do our wildlife
>some good.
>
>I Saw you post about shootin
>something with a recurve. Didn't
>watch the video yet but
>wondered why you would go
>from that to this?
>Most people I know who
>hunt recurve have sworn off
>rifle as they feel the
>fun is in being close
>to the animal.


BeDawg,

Thanks for disagreeing with this without attacking me. I'll use any weapon at my disposal to extend my hunting season, I have Recurves, Compound, a couple Muzzleloaders and obviously some rifles. I do enjoy the challenge of archery hunting espically with my recurve, first part of elk season I'll take it but I can only shoot it about 20-25 yards. If I'm sitting a treestand or ground blind I always take it which you don't see me sitting either of those to often. I originally had 10 days for this hunt but do to family stuff it turned into a 3 day hunt. I wanted to harvest a deer with my open sighted 30-30 and that was the plan until I got put under a time crunch. Usually there is a ton of snow in there and you literally see deer every where you look but they hadn't been pushed into there yet so I took what I opportunity I had. I honestly don't rifle hunt to often and really enjoy my bows and muzzleloaders, (here in Idaho we are really restricted on our muzzleloaders and have to stick with iron sights, solid lead bullets, loose powder and open ignitions) which I killed my elk with that this year.

I already have 12 days off for the hunt next year and plan on only taking my old 30-30 just because I think it would be cool as heck to shoot a nice buck with one. Seeing all those old black and white pictures with guys and monster bucks with lever actions in there hand are some of my favorite pics and I'd like a few of myself with big bucks and a 30-30
 
Good shooting and cool video. I think all the guys on here that talk trash on guys shooting long range should have to hunt with weapons they hand make. Sharpen a stick and hunt like your ancestors. Lol not likely.
 
Good shooting and a couple of good bucks, Looks like you was a ways back in there, You can tell you have spent some time and money behind that gun. Long range was b!tched about back in the day when they put scopes on 30-30 too.
I think tree stands should be banned they give a unfair advance to a bow hunter. J/K LOL

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>You guys can shoot no question
>about it. Anybody who puts
>in the time can shoot
>like you. My problem with
>LR is mature mule deer
>sustainability. You can reach out
>at these incredible distances and
>really take your pick on
>what deer you want. I
>know this is not the
>right direction for us to
>go as sportsman as the
>earning of the buck is
>not in the stalk but
>in the technology and time
>spent at the range.
>
>I hear people bitchin bout seeing
>50 2 points all seAson
>and wonder what happened to
>the big boys that used
>to be there. This is
>only going to make things
>worsen for our mature deer
>every year.
>
>I can't wait until range finders
>are banned for the rifle
>season. Would do our wildlife
>some good.
>
>I Saw you post about shootin
>something with a recurve. Didn't
>watch the video yet but
>wondered why you would go
>from that to this?
>Most people I know who
>hunt recurve have sworn off
>rifle as they feel the
>fun is in being close
>to the animal.

I also hunt with a 338 Ultra mag sometimes and a recurve other times. I have killed animals at 1000+ and at <10 yards. Over the years I've used a recurve, compound, muzzleloader, shotgun, open sight rifle, and scoped rifle to take deer. I guess it boils down to the fact that I just love hunting deer.......no matter how I end up killing them. I still say that the real sportsman can do it all. Far, close, whatever the situation and season warrants.--------SS
 
>God forbid if you think that's
>great. If there's anything
>wrong with the direction hunting
>is heading its in the
>long shot direction if you
>were to ask me.
>What ever happened to hunting
>a buck and not just
>shooting one?
You don't use the old Polaroid instant camera do ya?
 
>>Did I see the guts hanging
>>out on the last buck?
>>Is that why the rifle
>>and backpack are positioned where
>>they are for the interview?
>>Maybe I'm seeing things.
>
>Nope you aren't seeing things that's
>why he put another one
>in him. Those bullets blow
>base ball size exit holes
>and I like my pictures
>to look clean so yes
>I put the backback there
>to clean it up and
>I also put the riflescope
>in front of the hole
>in my buck to clean
>up the pictures as well.
>

Kinda think the "clean" part speaks volumes. Can't debate the good shot part. But you can't argue that this type of hunting is nothing but bad for the old mature animals. Most of us would agree that they got that way by living in places that make stalks almost impossible. By never having to expose yourself, simply covering that 1000 yrds of open terrain with a bullet to get to the big guys home you take away all those years of him learing how to not get shot. Your taking heat, I won't give it to you because this is not the place, but I do find it curious that every LR hunter, when challenged on the practice, the defense of it is because I want to. Not whats good for the future, the sport, the animal, etc. Good shooting though.
"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
I can tell you boys have put a lot of time practicing shooting at long range distances. I have no issue at all with guys like you who know their equipment, have put in the time and can MAKE those shots with confidence. IMO both deer were taken ethically and I tip my hat off to you for making such incredible shots and recovering both deer. WAY TO GO!!!!

I have to laugh at all the haters on here talking about long range shooting ruining hunting / hunter ethics / mature deer are no longer because of LR shooting etc. etc. What a bunch of crap! I was out on the UT general rifle hunt this year and personally watched over 6 two points get wacked at distances from 100 yards to over 500 yards. Some were standing and some were running full tilt to get the heck out of dodge while bullets were hitting the dirt all around them. Every buck I saw on opening day was getting shot at (all were spikes and two's and only one small 4). Most shots I watched were at deer on the move, far less "ethical" than either of the three shots I watched on the video. So for all of you that think these dudes are ruining hunting and are "unethical" and big mature deer are a thing of the past because of guys like them shooting 1000 yards Im going to call B.S. You want big deer, stop shooting small bucks and start shooting mature deer like they did!

My favorite post on here yet is the guy calling to get rid of range finders. Yeah, thats EXACTLY what we need to do. Get rid of all the equipment that helps us make more confident and accurate shots! I think we all need to go back to the o'l licking our finger and sticking it up in the sky to get our windage and distance before taking a wild shot. Yep, that will for sure help our deer situation. Unreal. That has to be one of the dumbest most uneducated comments I've read on MM in a loooooong time.

So let me ask, since you think we should ban range finders and long range rifles I guess we should probably ban rifle scopes, binoculars, spotting scopes, and center fire cartridges as well??? Just go back to the o'l flint lock right!?! Because heck, those things have just flat made hunting easier and have "ruined" hunting for our future! Recurve bows, spears, tomahawks, and slingshots.....Yep, thats what we all should be hunting with!

Fever
 
I am personally concerned about the "promotion " of long range shooting. I understand that some folks will practice and understand the physics and make better shots than most. But that is definitely not everyone.

What gets me the most is people are more proud of the shot distance than they are of the animal harvested. Look at this post, the title is all about the shot distance, not the animal harvested. If it is only about how far you shoot, shoot in contests instead of hunting mule deer. I believe we owe the Muleys that. We were on a trend in hunting that score is everything, now it's how far you killed your animal from. I worry that distance and score are now the cool way to judge your hunting prowess.

Rich
 
Great points @lostinOregon. I agree that the folks out there that can do what these two guys did are the exception to the rule and just because you can buy a rifle that shoots "1000 yards out of the box" does not mean the hunter can shoot a 1000 yards. I also agree with the rage being more about the distance than about the animal. Great points.

Fever
 
And people wonder why the days of posting up pictures of big bucks with great stories are long gone on MM. This place is a cess pool for jealousy, and ethics sensitive people.

Congrats on two great bucks and two great shots. Don't pay no mind to the haters. Well done boys!
 
Anytime any of us post a pic of an animal we have killed on the web, we instantly become ambassadors to hunting and sportsmanship. Whether we want to be or not. Taking that into consideration, we should use good judgment when posting pics and stories.

I personally don't feel a need to post the yardage of my shot. Simply because I don't like to brag about it first of all, and secondly, it is one of those things that is going to trigger reactions from others.

Most negativity could be averted by not posting certain aspects of ones hunt. Show a pic of your trophy. Tell a story, leave out the distance, leave out the gory details, etc.....and move on with your life.

At the end of the day, some guys like to hunt for reasons that are harder to effectively explain, while others like to hunt because they have a license to go kill something. Both have equal responsibility to be ethical, and mindful of what they are doing.
 
>Anytime any of us post a
>pic of an animal we
>have killed on the web,
>we instantly become ambassadors to
>hunting and sportsmanship. Whether we
>want to be or not.
>Taking that into consideration, we
>should use good judgment when
>posting pics and stories.
>
>I personally don't feel a need
>to post the yardage of
>my shot. Simply because I
>don't like to brag about
>it first of all, and
>secondly, it is one of
>those things that is going
>to trigger reactions from others.
>
>
>Most negativity could be averted by
>not posting certain aspects of
>ones hunt. Show a pic
>of your trophy. Tell a
>story, leave out the distance,
>leave out the gory details,
>etc.....and move on with your
>life.
>
>At the end of the day,
>some guys like to hunt
>for reasons that are harder
>to effectively explain, while others
>like to hunt because they
>have a license to go
>kill something. Both have equal
>responsibility to be ethical, and
>mindful of what they are
>doing.

Thanks sageadvice



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All the above the hate, archaic thinking

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Its almost time for state's to limit hunts to certain caliber rifle's which for one would separate the great hunters from long range shooters, and would limit wounded animals as many don't get on to brag about that 800 plus shot that blew the deers leg off. 3rd more animals would mature and breed passing genes. 4th it would get the hunters back on to the passion of out smarting old smart bucks. Yes I can't shoot an animal at 1000yds Not at all bummed to admit it as my longest shot was 300 yes and every other deer I have ever shot has been under 100yds and most within 60 yds. Hats off to those that can shoot that far, enter some competitions and win some trophies!
 
I guess one advantage of shooting at that distance is that you can snipe two bucks out of the same group and the deer have no idea what's going on.

Other than that, if you shoot a deer at 1082 yards, you still have to walk down to the deer to retrieve it, so why not walk half way down and shoot from 500 yards and cut your margin for error in half?:)

Eel

It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
 
Spdrmn..... In my opinion you don't need to defend yourself, or the way you hunt. Ethics is about the animal, and both of these animals died ethically, and did not suffer. The method of take is up to the preference of the hunter. I love shooting long range, and some day would like to increase my effective range (right now it's about 500 yds). I like you seek out hunts that keep me in the field, no matter the weapon. You have handled yourself well here despite getting flamed by some of these guys.

Good luck to you in the future, and keep posting videos.


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Gotthefever. Glad that you found my post to be your favorite one. Banning range finders on the rifle was an idea someone else came up with that sounded good to me. Disingenuous, yes but worthy of my consideration. I am thankful you were at least oopen to the possibility of that ban as well.

As far as shooting 2-points goes? I am totally in agreement with you. Sorry you had to see that happen. However, I have no idea if the shooters who shot your 2-points made ethical shots or not as I wasn't there with you when this happened.

As far as the author of this video goes, his shots were great shots and appeared to be deadly. His marksmanship is not in question nor were his abilities to make them. He has clearly been practicing at the range. The fallacy in this type of so-called "hunting" is the fact people are taking deer over 1000 yards without spooking anything in between them. The evidence is in the video: you can now shoot at a deer and not spook him or any of his friends that might be in-between. These marksman even had time to assess the shots and talk about the shots as they traded positions before taking another at over 900 yards.

I don't know about you but the last time I took shots at animals with a gun, everything around us spooked away into some hidey hole seeking safety. It makes me think that if I were up there with the video makers, me and a couple of my buds would be able to pick the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th biggest bucks out of that hillside that were more than 1/2 mile away. This could be the beginning of a whole new way to hunt. Everybody meet atop the same ridge and arm wrestle over who gets picks 1-10.

People that call this fair and sporting for the animal and trophy taken in my mind are comparable to those who would enjoy getting a gold medal in the "Special Olympics" not being special. I am not trying to "attack" you or trying to be a "hater", but really could have shot many deer this year bigger than either of these bucks if I had a spotting scope attached to my .300 RUM. I ate tag soup because the animals I have been hunting flat outsmarted me and my bow.

I like the author, do rifle hunt as a means to extend my season. This year, I instead chose to extend my season on the front. In years past, I have rifle hunted and landed myself in the best position on the mountain I deemed to harvest a deer. As my targeted buck was angling toward me all the way from 600 yards, I watched the big guy move continually closer in anticipation of harvesting him at 200. I then witnessed a long ranger take the buck out from under me from his position on the other ridge down the canyon at a distance of at least 750 yards. This led me to believe, in order to effectively hunt a gen season, I probably might need to shoot an unsuspecting deer from further distances to even have a chance to harvest.

Personally, think it would be better for the sport or for the animals if we all didn't kill the long distance way. Just as you think it would be better if everyone did not shoot 2-points. But I am the weird one who would also not mind if everything else was banned with the exception of flint-locked muzzleloaders and bows. But I too find this proposition unreasonable in this day and age.

On a side note, I think it would be best if you changed your name from Gotthefever to something like Gotbuckfever. Gotthefever sounds awfully close to Gott-He-Fever and I figure you are a straight man that doesn't get excited about any mister unless they are of the Cervidae type and not Homo Sapien. No offense if you are gay or to anyone else who is. Just throwing you a bone. (Not that kinda bone of course).

Wish me luck on my last day hunting elk with a bow Monday as it is the last day of the extended archery elk. As usual, I will probably see some big bulls and close the distance to about 75 yards and end up spooking them with the crunchy snow. I am happy with my trophy being the memory of the hunt and the outdoor experience more than just the kill.

Cheers.
 
I have a very good friend. Long range shooter extraordinaire. Ask him. He visits this site regularly and is probably cringing. He works for a very well known scope company. He has all the bells and whistles on his scope along with charts. To his credit he does shoot it a lot. I've been on a couple 'shoots' with this semi professional long range shooter and his crew. They do miss, they do injury, well more than I ever have and the difference is distance. They have made several videos and blogs. The things you never see are the bad shots, and there are many. I have seen them personally while the camera was rolling. All I'll say is there is a lot of footage that never makes it to air. What you might not have seen are the previous 4-5 complete misses or injured and lost deer. It does happen, that's a fact.
 
Ignore the negative bullsh!t those were some awesome shots and you got it done your way! It doesn't matter how you get it done there are those who will disagree with how you did it. "You shot it too far away" "you stabbed someone else in the back to get it" "my buddy didn't get it and someone I don't like did" boo hoo! Congratulations to you on some sweet shots! And on some awesome animals as well
 
So F'er?

You're sayin they don't hit their Target/Animals 100% of the time?

And They Wound a lot of sshhitt?

I've never seen that on Film?

WTH?

>I have a very good friend.
>Long range shooter extraordinaire. Ask
>him. He visits this site
>regularly and is probably cringing.
>He works for a very
>well known scope company. He
>has all the bells and
>whistles on his scope along
>with charts. To his credit
>he does shoot it a
>lot. I've been on a
>couple 'shoots' with this semi
>professional long range shooter and
>his crew. They do miss,
>they do injury, well more
>than I ever have and
>the difference is distance. They
>have made several videos and
>blogs. The things you never
>see are the bad shots,
>and there are many. I
>have seen them personally while
>the camera was rolling. All
>I'll say is there is
>a lot of footage that
>never makes it to air.
>What you might not have
>seen are the previous 4-5
>complete misses or injured and
>lost deer. It does happen,
>that's a fact.










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If I didn't have 100% confidence I could hit that deer where I wanted I wouldn't of taken the shot. I've killed a bull elk every year the last 8 years except this past fall. I came to full draw over a dozen times on bulls within 50 yards but was never offered a shot I was 100% confident with so I never let an arrow fly. Same thing goes when I'm rifle hunting if I have any doubt in my mind I won't pull the trigger whether it be 100 yards or 1000 yards
 
BeDawg, one nice thing about the area I was hunting in is they have a 3pt restriction so gives those little bucks a chance to grow up. The area I'm hunting is very rugged and you take a big chance you might end up spending the winter back there so the number of hunters you see are very very few. Last year we where on snowmobiles and no one ever came back there.


Ive hunted the front the last few years and have had a blast! Last year I decided to try the muzzleloader hunt and I've never seen so many people out chasing deer. Every deer I seen I wanted to put a stalk on there was always someone closer to it. I can't even imagine how bad the rifle season is. I'll stick with the archery hunt from now on.

Yet to notch a tag down there and my wife gets annoyed with the fuel bill making several trips down there every fall but love the terrain. Good luck with the elk hunt! Notching a elk tag on the front during the extended is probably one of the hardest archery hunts there is!
 
Awesome videos great shots and I enjoyed seeing you get so pumped up when you took that pronghorn with a recurve. Forget the nay Sayers on here and live the way you choose to live. If long range is not your cup of tea so be it. But don't bash on others for how they choose to hunt/live. Oh as for range finders being banned. If that's the case then they better ban mrad milradian reticles too. That's what I use. I don't even use a range finder and I'm efficient out to 750 yards. And I'm pretty damn good at getting the yardage of my target using the mils on my reticle and doing some simple math.
 
Thanks Aaron1984, antelope hunting is mentally exhausting!! There's nay sayers for everything, I had people tell me it was ridiculous I was hunting with a recurve when a compound is so much more efficient and accurate, just makes me laugh that I'm being told this isn't hunting and I need to get more traditional, how much more traditional can a guy get than a recurve! And when I use it I get ridiculed for not getting with the times and hunting with a compound ... Put my more efficient and accurate rifle to work and still get nay sayers ... There's always going to be somebody that has something to complain about!
 
You ever try a F'N Flintlock?

At least that Recurve will Fire every time!:D



>Thanks Aaron1984, antelope hunting is mentally
>exhausting!! There's nay sayers for
>everything, I had people tell
>me it was ridiculous I
>was hunting with a recurve
>when a compound is so
>much more efficient and accurate,
>just makes me laugh that
>I'm being told this isn't
>hunting and I need to
>get more traditional, how much
>more traditional can a guy
>get than a recurve! And
>when I use it I
>get ridiculed for not getting
>with the times and hunting
>with a compound ... Put
>my more efficient and accurate
>rifle to work and still
>get nay sayers ... There's
>always going to be somebody
>that has something to complain
>about!










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Flint lock no put I have had more misfires than I care to think about with traditional muzzleloader and percussion caps than I care to think about! I honestly feel more confident with a bow I'm my hand! First year I used a muzzleloader was on a Nov deer hunt and had multiple missfires, lost my capper once fell in the snow a few times got my caps wet. Was a big learning experience. My little brother has shot half a dozen deer with muzzleloaders, first year he used it had a 130" whitetail 10 yards away and that thing miss fired twice!! Also had a misfire opening day of elk season several cows 50 yards away misfire all standing there staring at me and my damn capper got caught on a loose string in my pocket ... They ran off before I finally got another cap on

Ended up getting this cow the following weekend

Snapped this pic while waiting for one to give me a good shot
 
Shooting sticks with a muzzleloader and you call that hunting? What happened to getting close???

Just kidding, bud, but I figured I'd be the first to whine and get it out of the way.
 
I couldn't agree more with the guy that said if you don't shoot the little bucks and let them grow up then you'll see more bigger bucks. There are plenty of whiners on here who can't wait to rip someone apart for there hunting abilities, but if they had the same shot and gun and didn't feel they could get any closer they would do the same thing. I hunted with a guy this year who couldn't keep his finger off the trigger. He was beside himself that I wouldn't shoot a 20" four point, then he he was mad when I shot a big deer. Sometimes tag soup is the way to go you don't have to shoot a deer every year.

Nice deer and nice video, I have hunting videos with rich guys who buy the same equipment that can't hit the broad side of a barn. Nobody's ripping on them for ruining the sport. And far more people see those videos rather than yours. At least you can shoot, I also watched other videos on your page and you shoot archery and muzzy so your not afraid to stalk a deer either.

I wonder if the haters watched the other videos before they started hacking?
 
Out of all the whiners on here, how many tagged out this year? I bet the number is low........which explains the whining. Congratulations on some fine animals guys. I own a 300 RUM and love the gun. I don't shoot it enough to shoot at those yardages though. I have killed many animals with it since I purchased in 2005. I plan on having some work done to it. What all did you have done to that 300?
 
>Out of all the whiners on
>here, how many tagged out
>this year? I bet the
>number is low........which explains the
>whining. Congratulations on some fine
>animals guys. I own a
>300 RUM and love the
>gun. I don't shoot it
>enough to shoot at those
>yardages though. I have killed
>many animals with it since
>I purchased in 2005. I
>plan on having some work
>done to it. What all
>did you have done to
>that 300?


Thanks BLooDTRaCKeR,I just got the rifle this spring, Its a Lawton Action with a 28" PROOF Carbon barrel, has MPI Stock, Jewel trigger topped with a Vortex Razor 5-20x50. I'm pushing 230 Bergers out of it at 3014 fps

I eat far more tag soup than I actually notch tags but with close to a dozen tags in my pocket every year it happens. I get all the tags I can to have an excuse to get to the mountains, I honestly only have a couple months out of the year I can't be pursuing something
 
So?

Who's gonna decide Who is Right and Who is Wrong?





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That'll teach you to film your hunt and share it with these babies. This is why I choose not to post on here very often, love the cite hate the preachers.
 
I just don't get why some hunters talk negative about other fellow hunters. It their choice how they hunt. If u have something negative to say I don't know why it's said. Hunters are supposed to stick together......I read the first 5 posts and that's it because I new where it was headed. Can't we just get along and Appreciate the animals that we get to harvest and eat. I don't understand it anymore. Exactly why I keep everything I do and harvest to myself and just get on here every once in a while to admire some magnificent animals.
 
I'm not going to get into it, simply stating my opinion. Very nice shooting, but I feel distances like that belong at the gun range. Now if those were wolves you were shooting....
 
>I'm not going to get into
>it, simply stating my opinion.
>Very nice shooting, but I
>feel distances like that belong
>at the gun range. Now
>if those were wolves you
>were shooting....

I respect that everyone has there opinions there's methods of hunting I also don't agree with.

Today is my last day of work and I got the next 4 days off, I have 4 wolf tags burning a hole in my pocket and we have fresh snow so I'm sure it won't be hard to figure out where I'll be the next few days! I'd love nothing more then to poke a few holes in wolves!

Wolves are actually what got me into long range shooting. I use to have a 243 and 308 I'd shoot rock chucks with at extended range (out to 500 yards). When they opened our wolf season I wanted a gun where if I see them I could pretty much shoot them and I feel I have the rifle finally
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-14-14 AT 06:20PM (MST)[p]Nice video!!! Nice bucks!!!!! Nice shooting!!! sure you had some trigger time getting that gun ready to go, was over in Idaho myself in 2013 with a friend a fun hunt!!! Keep up the filming, What make is that adapter for the cell phone on your spotting scope??
 
Congratulations on a couple nice bucks. Hope you post a video of you taking out some wolves at a 1000 yards.
 
>LAST EDITED ON Dec-14-14
>AT 06:20?PM (MST)
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>Nice video!!! Nice bucks!!!!! Nice
>shooting!!! sure you had some
>trigger time getting that gun
>ready to go,
> was over in Idaho
>myself in 2013 with a
>friend a fun hunt!!!
> Keep up the filming,
>What make is that adapter
>for the cell phone on
>your spotting scope??

That's a phoneskope, works awesome I have to clear out my phone a few times a year with how many pics and videos I tale through it
 
>You can definitely see the difference
>in excitement between the Long
>Range Rifle Shot and the
>Close Recurve Bow Shot....


Sitting in a box in Aug for a few days messes with a guys mind!!
 
I agree with eel.....get 500 yards closer and then take the shot. If a guy can't get closer than 1000 yards in the mountains, he's just not working hard enough at it. Just my opinion though....I've watched your other videos a couple weeks ago and thought they were good. This one....not so sure.

Steve

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.
 
>God forbid if you think that's
>great. If there's anything
>wrong with the direction hunting
>is heading its in the
>long shot direction if you
>were to ask me.
>What ever happened to hunting
>a buck and not just
>shooting one?

Really!! Should they be using a crossbow.

Guys made two great killing shots. Congratulations.
 
In this case unless we as hunters try to set a reasonable restriction, the public and anti hunters will eventually find away for this! Can you imagine the hay day they would have using such videos and comments against us! I shot a buck at the length of 10 football fields, hit his guts, took me a few minutes to relocate and shoot again! It's ok though I blow holes in all my deer bigger than a baseball!

This new found focus on long range shooting, will have some very negative backlash on hunters! When shooting far distances out weighs stalking getting close, and the general principals of fair chase, hunters loose the ability to have a good defense of thier position and people who are not anti hunting will surely not be happy to hear about guys shooting animals at a mile away with 50cal etc!


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I'm not against long range hunting, but this video showing a deer running with it's guts hanging out is not good for our sport. I know this happens(never had my deer running with guts hanging out)but either edit the video or just don't show it. Just my opinion.
 
Good shooting! And thanks for being intelligent on your responses to those that don't agree with your method of take and for taking the time to explain your view.

I'm not sure I'd take the time and be so nice, it's exhausting reading the negativity in these responses. Plus, as an adult who is able to make his own choices, I can choose not to read the responses or watch your video for that matter (title of thread is pretty explicit on the content) so it's not a surprise what I was going to watch. But, I did do both.

Long range at a thousand is not my cup of tea. But, as of this writing, however, I won't rule out that I'll never do it and I'm intelligent enough to not bash someone for doing something legal and doing it well, yet I'm cognizant of what the non-hunting public may think.

That said, there are so many examples of equipment extending and improving our range and accuracy, from bow to muzzy to rifle, over the last 100 years. Muzzy kills at 300, bow kills at 100+??? Who would have thought!!

Good kills.

Looking forward to a wolf thread and some video. Good luck!

Snoop...
 
>LAST EDITED ON Dec-15-14
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>LAST EDITED ON Dec-15-14
>AT 01:03?PM (MST)
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>I'm not against long range hunting,
>but this video showing a
>deer running with it's guts
>hanging out is not good
>for our sport. I know
>this happens(never had my deer
>running with guts hanging out)but
>either edit the video or
>just don't show it. Just
>my opinion.
No what's wrong with the sport of hunting. Is hunter putting other hunter down instead of support. If it's something you don't agree with then get your point across in way that makes it positive. Not bashing another hunter. And I'm not saying are bashing him. Also I feel most of the crap talkers on here are jealous of this hunters success with long range and close range equipment. Anti's she hunter putting other hunters down and use that as fuel. Just my two sense.
 
sense?

Or cents?:D



>>LAST EDITED ON Dec-15-14
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>>LAST EDITED ON Dec-15-14
>>AT 01:03?PM (MST)
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>>I'm not against long range hunting,
>>but this video showing a
>>deer running with it's guts
>>hanging out is not good
>>for our sport. I know
>>this happens(never had my deer
>>running with guts hanging out)but
>>either edit the video or
>>just don't show it. Just
>>my opinion.
>No what's wrong with the sport
>of hunting. Is hunter putting
>other hunter down instead of
>support. If it's something you
>don't agree with then get
>your point across in way
>that makes it positive. Not
>bashing another hunter. And I'm
>not saying are bashing him.
>Also I feel most of
>the crap talkers on here
>are jealous of this hunters
>success with long range and
>close range equipment. Anti's she
>hunter putting other hunters down
>and use that as fuel.
>Just my two sense.










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sent...ence?

I don't think hunting is a sport...getting tired of hearing guys say its a sport. It's a heritage, way of life, passion....whatever. Maybe it's the competition of shooting the biggest deer first so the other guy won't shoot it. Is that why long range is such a growing issue now? Maybe that is why some consider it a sport. It's a competition. It makes deer more accessible to kill? I'm not sure....to each his own I guess.

Steve

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.
 
Why don't you keep your target shooting videos between your friends who may get off on this kind of target practice and keep it off the internet. This isn't hunting, it's target shooting and should be left for the gun range. It sucks seeing two pencil horned bucks shot in the guts cause you two have to boost your egos. How many shots did you have to take? I especially like the guy checking the wind by throwing grass a 1,000 yards away. Do you really think that's what the wind was doing in the next county? Pathetic!
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-15-14 AT 10:13PM (MST)[p]>Why don't you keep your target
>shooting videos between your friends
>who may get off on
>this kind of target practice
>and keep it off the
>internet. This isn't hunting,
>it's target shooting and should
>be left for the gun
>range. It sucks seeing
>two pencil horned bucks shot
>in the guts cause you
>two have to boost your
>egos. How many shots
>did you have to take?
> I especially like the
>guy checking the wind by
>throwing grass a 1,000 yards
>away. Do you really
>think that's what the wind
>was doing in the next
>county? Pathetic!


I don't even have words for all the uneducated "opinions"
 
"I don't even have words for all the uneducated "opinions" "

I don't hear uneducated "opinions". I hear a bunch of very concerned guys voicing their opinion on what you did and are trying to defend. I think most, would have rather had nothing to say but felt the need to speak up. Me too.

1. You can not know the wind speed at varibles of distance but you do know, that variances in the wind at longer distances, do have a huge effect on bullet path. Guesswork at best.

2. There is a considerable amount of time between the bullet leaving the barrel and point of impact downrange. Plenty of time for the deer to not be where he was in the sights when you pulled the trigger.

Both these things happen often and one's probability of success, increases greatly the closer you get to the animal.

As i talked about in another thread, had you simply posted the pic's of those Dandy bucks, congrats on your hunt BTW, and only left all the long range stuff out, this would no doubt been a thread much more to your liking.

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Those are some amazing shots!
Boone and Crockett has voiced their own spin on what is fair chase, due to the advancements available to the modern day hunter.


"Hunting must involve the risk of detection and failure if there is to be any honor in having overcome the superior senses and survival instincts of the hunted. It is for this reason that sportsmen have embraced limitations so that technology does not fully overwhelm the natural capacities of the prey they pursue. This is a self-imposed trade-off that decreases the likelihood of a successful harvest, but heightens the hunting experience and shows respect for the animals being hunted. Combined, these values represent the intent and cherished traditions of hunting."

From :http://www.boone-crockett.org/about/LRS.asp?area=about&ID=6B455080&se=1&te=1

However, B&C does not really stick to it in the B&C entry system. I don't really hunt alot anymore, not sure why. Used to guide alot and avidly pursue trophy class animals. Still like the idea of bowhunting again, and occasionally will put in for permits. But to each his own.

However, I think maybe next year I will by a new suit and tie, take a video camera along and see what I can do in the field from long range...

Something has to change, I can't knock doing what is legal and currently available too much, I hate to go against other people who enjoy hunting and the outdoors. The guys making these videos and taking the long range shots are not the problem. We always will do what is legally available to make us more effective. Imagine outlawing spotting scopes. Never happen.

But, I can certainly make a clown show of it all, and show that boundaries need to be established if this sport is to continue on for generations to come. I encourage anyone who thinks the same to make a video of hunting from long range in a suit and tie next year. It's the only way to really turn heads and make something happen. Media.
 
>"I don't even have words for
>all the uneducated "opinions" "
>
>
>I don't hear uneducated "opinions". I
>hear a bunch of very
>concerned guys voicing their opinion
>on what you did and
>are trying to defend. I
>think most, would have rather
>had nothing to say but
>felt the need to speak
>up. Me too.
>
>1. You can not know the
>wind speed at varibles of
>distance but you do know,
>that variances in the wind
>at longer distances, do have
>a huge effect on bullet
>path. Guesswork at best.
>
>2. There is a considerable amount
>of time between the bullet
>leaving the barrel and point
>of impact downrange. Plenty of
>time for the deer to
>not be where he was
>in the sights when you
>pulled the trigger.
>
>Both these things happen often and
>one's probability of success, increases
>greatly the closer you get
>to the animal.
>
>As i talked about in another
>thread, had you simply posted
>the pic's of those Dandy
>bucks, congrats on your hunt
>BTW, and only left all
>the long range stuff out,
>this would no doubt been
>a thread much more to
>your liking.
>
>Joey
>
>
>"It's all about knowing what your
>firearms practical limitations are and
>combining that with your own
>personal limitations!"

There is a difference in not agreeing with this and being an ass

"Gut shooting two pencil horned bucks"
"How many shots did you take"
"Throwing grass to check wind"

I'm fine with people not agreeing with how I hunt every person has the way they like to do it, like I mentioned before I got grief for hunting with a recurve when a compound is so much more efficient.

If I had any doubt in my mind I wouldn't of taken either shot, the wind call was off on the second buck so yes the shot was in the center of his body we corrected it shot again so the deer didn't have to suffer.

Throwing grass in the air to check wind?? That's a first. Yes I compensated for the wind without doing so neither shot would of even been close to touching the deer, throwing grass in the air is no way to check the wind.

Obviously he has a problem with my "pencil" horned buck. That area isn't know for big bucks and we pulled out some of the better bucks in that country. I choose the places I hunt by the terrain and location. Not the trophy quality

I do agree with you on the content of my post, I'm proud of every animal I shoot whether it be with a recurve, compound muzzleloader or rifle whether it be a nice 6pt or a cow elk. I love seeing stories and videos of average people being successful and I love even more seeing homemade hunting videos. I work 50 hours a week never been to college just a guy that likes to work hard and hunt and thoroughly enjoy seeing other peoples stories that are like me out doing it on there own. Am i going to stop recording my vidoes ... HELL NO, Am I going to title my next adventure different, after this yes I am. This going to stop me from taking extended distance shots not all. Although next year I plan on only hunting with my Bow and 30-30 so that's going to limit my range to 150 or under during rifle season which I hope doesn't offend any one.

This is kind of the stuff anti hunters feed off of, hunters attacking other hunters. Have an issue with it send me a private message tell me how you feel and we'll have a civil conversation about it.

Saying I have a small schmeckle is a true statement. Weird that some of you on here know that and are curious about it but its nothing impressive that's for sure. I've shot my last 4 bulls with my bow between 8 and 18 yards none of those close up shots made it bigger and shooting this buck didn't make it bigger either so I guess if that was my goal I need to find some other hobby.

I've made a lot of life long friends on forums just like these, how I met those people is there fun positive post and high outlook on life, you only live once why choose to live your life in a way that only See's the negative parts of things, everything in this world has posyive and negative things why not stick with the positive. I'm sure you'll live a much happier life than always trying to find a way to knock someone down

I didn't post this video looking to upset people for those that I did I apologize that was not my intent. For those complements and constructive criticism I appreciate it and have thought about it a lot for the last few days.

For all you that felt to call me names and talk about my little ##### ... Get out from behind the computer and go get some fresh air I think it would do you some good.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-14 AT 01:08AM (MST)[p]Hey Pard, if i or anyone else here can't see that you are anything but a credit to our kind, they're nuts! You seem like a great guy, i've looked at your vids for some time with nothing but admiration and respect.

I think though that this being the hot topic country wide these days, other guys just like "us", have their concerns, agreeing, some saying it much nicer than others.

I said for many years, "hell, shooting them is the easy part, it's the finally finding the one you want to shoot and putting on the sneak that's all the fun"

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"
 
Pulled the curtain back a bit with your first delected response to cowhitey didn't ya spdrman?
 
>
>I said for many years, "hell,
>shooting them is the easy
>part, it's the finally finding
>the one you want to
>shoot and putting on the
>sneak that's all the fun"
>
>
>Joey
>
>
>"It's all about knowing what your
>firearms practical limitations are and
>combining that with your own
>personal limitations!"

We still talkin bout deer? :D
 
Well said spdrman.

As I said in the beginning, the long range thing isn't my cup of tea. But I enjoyed your video. And I enjoy your enthusiasm but most of all I respect how you have handled yourself thru this whole thing. I would have told them all to eff off.

As for the part about the deers guts hanging out, some of these guys are a little squeamish about actually seeing an animal die. I guess they've never really had close up experiences with death. They like to keep it sanitary and anonymous. Far away... but not too far. But death is never pretty. I've seen that happen at closer range too.

In my opinion guys like you are what's still good about hunting. You are welcome at my fire any time. And no, I don't want to have a shmeckle stretching contest with you or anyone else. Mine gets sore from it always dragging in the brush. ;-)



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My apologies sprdman. Using the words "pencil horned" was inappropriate. You should be able to target shoot at whatever you want. Sorry.
 
ya, great bucks.
Not a fan of taking the hunt out of it. Impressive shot but just pullin up, waitin for the wind do die so you can just sit and plop from across the canyon.. I'm not a big fan of it. Yes you literally eliminate any option the deer has of spotting, smelling, hearing you but isn't that what hunting is? Kinda hard to fail at this kinda hunting unless you jerk your gun lol.
never the less, 2 fine bucks, nice shooting.



-Cass
 
This post was a hack-job from the beginning. Why else would anyone post this topic so-soon after that other dude missed his deer 2 times in Idaho over 800 yards and finally put him down with the 3rd shot. Sprdman was trying to stir the pot from the beginning and we all knew it. I think these guys all know one-another and are good buds. I applaud that; they probably shoot at the same range, have loyalty and stick together.

I have decided that me and all my buds in Utah, the 200,000 or so of them that apply to hunt deer are all going to go buy LR gear and snipe them. Only a matter of time before the rug gets pulled out from under us and instead of drawing a gen season tag every 2-3 years, we can complain to the DWR that it now takes us 3-5. Why? We will become such "better hunters". You see the ability to shoot-em-dead at 1000 yards is so-much more effective for killing animals than shooting them out to my previous range of 400.

I think Buzz H said it first, the whole LR trend will only cost us more tags in the future thus taking away more opportunity. If this is what you want, we can get the same gear, have a big group hug and go snipe together on the same ridge into the next drainage. Tag/hunting opportunity vs. technology.
 
I am still sour that spotlighting and night vision goggles were banned. You never had to hunt the same way that I did. In fact, all of you "haters" were just "jealous" of my ability to shoot big deer in the dark. You see, night time hunters never shoot the little 2-pointers. It's those daytime hunters that were the problem because all they shot were little guys. We spot lighters always used to let them grow big and we only shot the biggest and oldest out of the group we could find. But then they banned it and said it wasn't fair to hunting.

It should be noted that I am being facetious of course for all of you who might think I was being serious.
 
Hack job? Seriously?


I swear this place gets more self righteous every day. No wonder so many people avoid it any more. I wouldnt post a picture on here of myself with a game animal I killed for all the money in Utah.


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That must be some tall brush, NV!


Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.
 
Let me further clarify NV. What I thought was the Hack job was the post and timing of it to stir up a hornets nest. Not the Vid. You could see it after just reading the headline had anyone been paying attention. Not poking fun of him trying to post his deer.

Again to reiterate, he was not trying to show off his awesome bucks or stimulate us to train harder for next season's opportunities we missed this year. He was trying to get a colorful response from everyone including you.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-14 AT 12:29PM (MST)[p]>Let me further clarify NV. What
>I thought was the Hack
>job was the post and
>timing of it to stir
>up a hornets nest. Not
>the Vid. You could see
>it after just reading the
>headline had anyone been paying
>attention. Not poking fun of
>him trying to post his
>deer.
>
>Again to reiterate, he was not
>trying to show off his
>awesome bucks or stimulate us
>to train harder for next
>season's opportunities we missed this
>year. He was trying to
>get a colorful response from
>everyone including you.

BeDawg, I missd that post of the guys shooting a couple times at 800 yards and by no mean was my intent to stir the pot. Like I mentioned before if I had any doubt I wouldn't of taken the shot. Had a guy in the archery shop tell me once if you ever take a shot and you surprised yourself when you hit the animal you shouldn't of taken that shot I believe the same thing applies to rifle hunting.

I'm a the kind of person that likes to avoid conflicts and do what I can to make people happy, I try and avoid any negativity in my life and honestly wouldn't of posted this if I would of know this was the responses I was going to get it. Sorry life is to short to put yourself around people that just want to knock you down

Hope the last few days of the extended went well for you BeDawg
 
>Hack job? Seriously?
>
>
>I swear this place gets more
>self righteous every day. No
>wonder so many people avoid
>it any more. I wouldnt
>post a picture on here
>of myself with a game
>animal I killed for all
>the money in Utah.
>
>
>[font color="blue"]I don't make the soup,I
>just stir it.[/font]


You NV are the reason I avoid this site, obviously with 6777 posts you run your mouth a lot. You and I wouldn't post a picture on this site because of guy's like yourself.
 
Dang Ringneks...I have more posts than NV. What are you saying? LOL

"All the money in Utah"? That's a whole other post waiting to be started. J/K.

This post should be pulled in fear of more useless banter that gets nobody anywhere....certainly not those that wanna get where they haven't been except for that one time at band camp.

Steve

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.
 

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