Opinions on what a reasonable Pauns buck would be this year?

Bill_in_MI

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So, my upcoming rifle hunt starts 10/17-25th.

I've hunted muleys a couple of times but have not looked over many nor am I experienced in scoring.

It seems that the Pauns plateau received adequate rain this year, so I am hoping for better than avg antler growth.

What do you go to Pauns to shoot?

What would be the kind of buck that would get you to start to pull the trigger?

What do you look for to determine a good buck from a great buck (scoring on the hoof)?

Thx
Bill
 
Depends on the year. They have killed some great bucks down there the last few years. Shoot whatever buck you like and makes you happy. If it were me, I would spend the first few days looking for something really special but then I would be willing to take anything over 180.

-Hawkeye-
 
This one was good enough for me to pull the trigger at 7:45am opening morning.

http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos3/9571image.jpeg

There are some absolute tanks killed on the Pauns every year, and this year has been no different. Most of the biggest deer are taken on private property, but there are great deer out there if you can find them. They don't get big and they don't make it through the CWMUs by being dumb and easy to find.
 
I would recommend that a DIY NR who doesn't know the unit really well take the first buck they see over 180" and they better think real hard about passing up anything over 170". While the Paunsaugunt can and does produce some giant bucks every year it can be really tough to turn up the big ones. A lot of guys draw the tag and have unreasonable expectations and hold out for a 200 incher, pass on some nice 170+ bucks during the beginning of the hunt only to end up shooting a 2 or 3 year old four point the last couple days of the hunt just to avoid eating the tag.

With that said if I were in your shoes I'd forget about numbers and go look for a mature heavy buck that gets you excited and drop the hammer!
 
That's what I'm thinking. A heavy, mature looking buck that turns me on...

It just seemed that there might have been better than avg rainfall where these bucks summered and I wasn't sure if this is the year to hold out looking for a monster.

I'll never draw the tag again I'm sure and going DIY, want to make the most of it.

I already had some great luck in AZ on my archery elk hunt, so I'm really primed for UT!

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Nice bull! Without a doubt this was a great year for antler growth in southern utah and most bucks reached their genetic potential. The chance of finding a giant is there but keep your expectations reasonable and you'll have the hunt of a lifetime.
 
You will see a lot of good bucks. Lots of bucks in the 140-160 range even. Those are "I don't want to eat tag soup" bucks on the Paunsy.

I think if you set your sights on a 180" buck and decide that anything of that caliber or better will die the moment you see it, you will have a fun hunt. The Paunsy is a unit where seeing a 180" typical on opening morning actually might pose you with a dilemma. But, if you have determined that the 180" mark is where you will drop the hammer, then it takes away the dilemma, and you end up with stud buck in your truck.

I think your standard of a "mature buck" will get you a good one. It will keep you away form young, willow-horned bucks. It may get you a 3-point, but if you want a big-bodied, mature buck, you would still be happy with that.

I'm guessing its a fantastic year to have a Rifle tag on the Paunsy. You'll know the one you want when you see it, and if that never really happens, you can make the decision to eat tag soup, or at least take a decent 4-point buck for your wall back in MI.

Good luck to you..!! Let us know how it turns out...

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
Nice bull Bill! You have recieved some great advice! Shoot a buck that gets your blood pressure going! Enjoy the hunt and let the football teams worry about score! Good luck on your hunt! If you need anything while your out here let me know.
 
This year has been a banner year down in southern Utah.
A lot of rain during the summer seems to have optimized antler growth down in the "desert" part of the state.
I don't recall ever seeing as many 200" bucks as I have seen posted up from Utah.
Should be a good hunt for you.
Aim for the 180" mark and good luck!
 
I don't have any advice as I'm not an experienced mule deer hunter when it comes to the big boys. But I will comment that is a nice bull, and post pics of whatever you shoot.

BTW, how many points did it take to draw the Pauns tag?
 
>This one was good enough for
>me to pull the trigger
>at 7:45am opening morning.
>
>http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos3/9571image.jpeg
>
>There are some absolute tanks killed
>on the Pauns every year,
>and this year has been
>no different. Most of
>the biggest deer are taken
>on private property, but there
>are great deer out there
>if you can find them.
> They don't get big
>and they don't make it
>through the CWMUs by being
>dumb and easy to find.
>

congrats! The body on that buck looks very big, with the big bases he was past his prime it looks like. Teeth wore down too?
Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"
 
I try to remember this when hunting.....Never pass anything on the first day that you would gladly shoot on the last day!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-12-15 AT 07:24PM (MST)[p]Thanks to all those who helped with suggestions. This included tips, maps, directions, and even a scouting partner for the day (Thx Fin little!). I also made a new friend from ID who was hunting solo and camped nearby. We spent 60% of the time hunting together and glassed numerous animals for each other.

With unseasonably wet weather and some lingering hot days, the bigger bucks seemed to be hiding. It seemed the talk of the hunt was 'where are the bucks, especially decent 4 points'?

Well, I hunted/scouted from bald knoll down to the north fence. I saw plenty of does and small bucks (a lot of 2x2 to 3x3s), also there were a ton of velvet bucks running around. Overall I saw about 40 racked bucks and about 250 does. Of those 40 bucks, approximately 10 were in velvet.

I missed a 170ish 4x4 on afternoon one. I saw him and 2 of his buddies crossing private heading to a notch of public land which touched the road. I figured they would be on public within an hour. I headed to camp, dried out from the persistent drizzle and hightailed it back to that piece of ground. I was too late, as I stepped on the buck in a tiny patch of oak brush. He bounded up and over a ridge which I ran up behind him. By the time I picked him up, he was almost cresting the next ridge. I mistakenly ranged the wrong bush. I threw the pack down, flopped on the ground and promptly shot over his back. I should have held dead on that 1st shot. Oh well.

7th night of the 9 day hunt found me and Dustin (ID hunter) on a prominent hill overlooking a vast flat. Having put on about 60 miles on the quad that day, found us at this spot with only 1/2 hour of daylight left. We glassed for about 3 minutes and then found a bomber 4x4 that I now think was a 190" buck. He was 450 yards and closing. I had all the time in the world and a perfect rest. I missed...again...I was able to get another shot off but I was way out of sync.

Day 8, early AM found us back on the same promontory waiting for daylight. We were there early enough that I was able to flash my ATV lights at an approaching truck to let them know hunters were on the spot already. They politely turned around and found another area. As soon as it was light enough to see I was glassing up multiple deer hoping to see the big guy from the night before. Within 5 min, I happened to glass close by, right at the base of the knob and low and behold I saw a golden surprise. He was a heavy, tall, and wide velvet 3x3 at 250 yards. It took about 8-10 seconds for me to decide to try and take him. I got a good rest, put the misses out of my mind, and made a perfect shot dropping the buck in his tracks.

After a 30 min search in the tall sage I was able to find him. Relief!

I have zero regrets shooting a mature cactus buck on the next to last day. With a couple of kickers on his bases (which added 3 or 4 inches) he taped out at 180" of antler (By the great guys at Roundy's taxidermy who assisted in the full caping and preserving of the velvet). Dustin and I got him loaded on my quad for the 8 or 9 mile ride out. It was a great trip for me. Thx again for all the help.
 
He measured 27.25" outside width.
22.5" tall
One base was right at 9"

Roundy's pulled and looked at the teeth for me and thought the buck was ancient, perhaps 9-12 years old.

He had a torn broken ear and we are guessing he wasn't born a stag but was injured somehow during his life.

Thx for following along.

Bill
 
Thanks for the follow up. Cactus bucks are cool. Glad to hear you had help saving the velvet. It's going to make a great mount. A good conversation piece to have back east. Congrats sounds like you had a great time.
 
Congrats! That's a cool buck. Looking at the pics I would say you are correct about your buck being the second one from the right in that summer bachelor group photo off the dwr facebook page.
 
Thx for letting me know where the pic came from. I was hoping there might be more of him alive. I'll look into that.

Bill
 
Thanks for sharing the story and pics. I can't believe he scores 180. Nice old mature buck. Sounds like you earned him.
 
Awesome buck! Congrats! I also shot a stag in Utah this year! Very cool to see big mature buck in velvet! Great pictures and a hunt of a lifetime!
 

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