Is Hillary done for?

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huntindude

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Looks like Hillary is toast, Obama has taken 10 states in a row from her and she would need to win 70% of the delagates left to get the nomination which would take a miracle.

So everyone who wanted her out has their wish, question is do you want Obama as your next president because that's what you're going to get. Obama is very tax prone from what I see and that bothers me more than anything else about him, I think he's going to be an expensive president but he might be a good one overall who knows. cautiously optimistic I guess is my attitude.
 
dude, those super delegates are bought and paid for........she ain't near done.

JB
 
Dude, I wouldn't count Hillary out just yet. There is still the Superdelagate vote out there and they are un-committed. Also look for some kind of arm wrestle for the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention. We'll see......

RUS
 
Hillary is far from out. She was ahead last time I checked in Texas and Ohio. Big states with lots of delagates.
If she wins big in these two, the delagate count will be back to a tie.
Remember how many times they called Bill "dead" ?
 
For what it's worth she needs to win by at least 70% and she hasn't done that much of anywhere, republican primary rules say winner takes all but the dems get a percentage. the latest polls in TX show Hillary at 50% and Obama at 48%, most feel by the time it gets here he'll beat her but even at 50% she falls short of the delegate count she needs.

The super delegate thing could actually work in Obama's favor, if the tide stays is far in Obama's favor as it is now they'll go with Obama so as not to tear the party apart.

I'm not sure one of them is any better or worse than the other but my money is on Obama to pretty well cinch the nomination in a couple of weeks.
 
Are you gun nuts really wishing Hillary wins? I hope it's because McCain would pound her like a drum in the General election.
 
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/
*** The Delegate math: After last night's contests, here?s where things stand: The NBC News Hard Count is Obama 1,168, Clinton 1,018. There are 53 delegates unallocated, including 19 in MD, 10 each in CO and GA, 6 in WI, 4 in HI, and one each in DC, TN, NY and IL. We estimate a conservative 27-26 split here. The Superdelegate Count: Clinton 257 versus Obama 185. That's a grand total of: Obama 1,355, Clinton 1,276. Counting only the superdelegates he has now, plus his pledged delegates, Obama needs 65% of remaining PLEDGED delegates to hit the magic 2025 number. Reaching that is probably unrealistic, but when you add in the unaffiliated 353 superdelegates (76 of whom are not yet known yet and won't be appointed until April, May and June), his magic percentage number is down to 48%. On the flip side, Clinton needs to win 58% of all remaining pledged delegates simply to get the pledged delegate lead back. Forget 2025. And if you assume Obama wins Vermont, Wyoming, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota, then the magic percentage number in the states Clinton wins rises to 65% -- SIMPLY TO GET THE PLEDGED DELEGATE LEAD BACK...


I don't know if even Hill and Bill can pull this rabbit out of the hat. Bill Clinton must be sitting in his hotel room staring at the in room porn channels wondering how all these democrats can be supporting Obama. It is probably a shock to his ego that he can't just appoint Hillary as the nominee and start making plans to redo the color scheme in the oval office.

If Hillary does fight back and there is a split in the party all the way to the convention then we may not have a democrat in the White House.

Obama is pretty light on anything resembling experience. Especially in foreign policy, which will be the biggest challenge to the incoming president. He also has never had a serious political "crisis" and we haven't seen him react under pressure. he has never been in the private sector in any capacity so doesn't understand the burden of taxes and government regulation. He has a habit of either not voting or voting "present" on difficult issues. All in all a great speaker but not much substance there.

Look for Hillary to take the gloves off in the next two debates and try to score a few body blows. It could get ugly before the March 4th primaries.

Nemont
 
I agree with that but every time Hillary takes a swing at Obama it come back and hits her in the face, Obama doesn't have enough history to attack and so if she goes personal it backfires. he's almost untouchable.

Clinton will try everything she can until the TX and Ohio primaries are over, if she loses she'll back off. I doubt very much she would jeopardize a democrat winning the whitehouse even if she dicides it won't be her. between her and Bill there's way to much politian in them to do that, though would be McCain's only hope at winning.
 
I have to agree with Dude.

McCain will be our next President. Obama is an empty suit. The Republican machine will take him apart and expose him for the phoney he is.



"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
Or...

the Dems will put Obama on the ticket, force him to choose Hillary as his running mate. Then if he is elected he will get bumped off like so many other mysterious deaths in the Clinton history and... walah... Hillary and Billary are back in the Whitehouse.

Just one conspiracy theory I have heard.

Or maybe Obama will "commit suicide", like so many others in the Clinton past, before he is on the ticket and Hillary will be on the ticket by default.

Not like I believe any of that, I mean, nothing like that has ever happened before. ;-)

There's some fodder for you faux-pundits to ponder.
 
It's only over for people that think the process is honest....
Superdeligate........designed just for this kind of situation.If the people put in who they think they want then in comes the SD. they can correct the people and nominate the candidate that the people really wanted, but didn't know it..
 
If that's the case then Obama is in. He beats McCain much easier than Clinton would so game over if you're right.

McCain is never going to beat Obama and I think I'll probably vote for McCain myself. facts are facts it doesn't matter what your preferences are. the sheriff is going to get his badge you can count on it.
 
Dude I think it may go a little different. I definately think Obama will get the nod and beat Hillary. But I think things will get stirred up a bit in the middle east between now and the election since the climate over there will be changing and they want to show who's really in power. Those issues will surface and then the experience will become a huge factor to most Americans. I think McCain will win but it'll be a close election. If things remain calm over there then the outcome may be different. I like you will most likely vote for McCain.
 
Things in the middle east are looking shakey , the cease fire with al-Sadr expires Saturday and we don't have any word he plans on renewing it. we wanted fair elections in Pakistan and it looks like the hatred for us there will turn the government over to one sympathetic to Al Qaida and the Taliban, all in all not a great prospect.

I'm not sure how McCain being a prisoner in nam and a cheerleeder for an extremely unpopular and bungled war in Iraq qualifies him to handle the situation any better than Obama.

Yesterday's new Ruters poll shows Obama widening his lead on McCain to 7%. Obama will win regaurdless of what happens in the middle east, infact more violence could help him.
 
If Hillary is to win, look for her to change tactics. When she gets angry and screams it sounds like fingernails on a chalk board. I expect to see more tears in the next two weeks.

If she does lose, there will be repercutions. Count on it.

Eel
 

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