Question about pending world record in AZ

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dogcatcherboy

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ok now i know this 439 bull killed in williams Az is supose to be the new non typ.Bull!but i know that at least two bulls over 500 have been killed on the san carlos res.So what gives??anyone
Donnie
 
The 439 was an archery kill (500 bull was rifle). There is only one documented 500 from the Rez.
 
The bull was killed by Nick Franklin of Peoria, AZ. Archery unit 8 kill. Officially B&C scores 444 4/8 net. Pending panel scoring P&Y World Record elk. The bull over 500 (like 515) was killed illegally by the husband of the wife with the permit a few years back. SCI entered only..
 
Thanks for the replys,,there was one that scored 550(thereabouts)but it was a rifle kill,i just thought the 515 was a bow kill,,i also know a guy that picked up the sheds to the 444 bull...after the guy killed the bull!!
 
AAA, was the shipsey bull illegal? the tribe seems to proud as hell of it. they have photos of him with it all over the place. i don't think they cared who shot it or what the permit said on it, as long as the fee was paid. from what i heard, and it was 3rd hand but from a reliable source, was that b&c wouldn't allow the paperwork discrepancy and kept it out because of that. said his mother bought him the tag as a gift. also heard another guy say that shipsey's ex wife or girlfriend was the name on the tag too. there are so many stories about it that it may be impossible to find out what the real deal is. heard the rumor that the apaches had been feeding it steroids and supplements too, but that seems a little far fetched. but sci recognizes it as the record, and they have the same sort of clause about not letting illegally taken animals in their book. mainly just wondering if anyone had the "real" story of why this bull wasn't recognized as the record.
 
dog,
550 bull? where and when did you hear or see info. on a bull killed that scored 550. please give info. sounds like an exageration to me. if not i apologize. interested in finding out where this info. came from.
thanks,
nk
 
Ok.. here is more second hand info.. my buddy shot the bull outa 3C that grosses after drying 428 6/8.. looks like it is going to end up #2 non-typ archery. Any way he talks to Nick Franklin and had not heard that his bull had been officially dry scored yet.. there was some confussion on how to score one of the tines.... anyway the green score was 439 and change....once they figure it out he will go to pannel and end up #1
I, as everyone else, have also heard all the rumors on the Shipsey bull... What I heard the bottom line was that he and the head of B&C do not like each other and that B&C will find something every time they try to submit... just a little more to rumors....lol regardless if they ever do recognize it... it is a hell of a bull.... and I think the only bull over 500...There is a replica of it over at the Sportsman's here in Phoenix. The plack says SCI World Record 500 2/8 or 6/8... can't remember for sure.
 

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