customweld
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Is it too early to predict the result day for the OIL tags?
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customweld
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Good lord! I hope not Kimber. I have other hunts to plan out that hinge on these results! It was May 17th last year, I believe. So far they aren't off to a strong start with the new system.
customweld
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At least as long as I don't know, I still have hope!
andrew12gauge
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>With the cluster he new contractor
>had with both bear and
>turkey draws I bet it's
>late this year. End of
>May first part of June.
>
Based on the cluster that the other 2 drawings have been I'd say you're being optimistic lol. More like end of July first part of August. I'm sure we will have deer elk and antelope results by September 1
>had with both bear and
>turkey draws I bet it's
>late this year. End of
>May first part of June.
>
Based on the cluster that the other 2 drawings have been I'd say you're being optimistic lol. More like end of July first part of August. I'm sure we will have deer elk and antelope results by September 1
customweld
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Nothing yet...
customweld
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I broke down and called Headquarters... results by June 10th.
customweld
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>haha standard response...but I'm starting to
>wonder if this POS contractor
>is going to use the
>whole deadline to June 10th
>
That would be my guess.
>wonder if this POS contractor
>is going to use the
>whole deadline to June 10th
>
That would be my guess.
customweld
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Prior to the new draw vendor, the results were out around the 20th of May. Hopefully this isn't the new norm.
greatbasin
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IDF&G should have the Idaho Lottery do their draws then we could have the results by the first Wednesday or Saturday night after each deadline.
huntfishall1
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I still do the paper application due to the rediculous convenience fee that really adds up when you are paying $2k plus for the tag and they charge a percentage to use a credit card. I'd love for them to make it easier but after seeing what has happened in Colorado this year I'll gladly stick with the current system and the long wait for the results.
The initial IDFG source rumors were close to normal, then the rumors turned to soon but now they're saying hopefully before June 10th. Of course, now that I wrote this they'll be out today.
I think it's time for a sportsman email campaign to the Legislature to return to the old system. Fees went up and timing is horrible. The reasons for the change were specious at best.
I think it's time for a sportsman email campaign to the Legislature to return to the old system. Fees went up and timing is horrible. The reasons for the change were specious at best.
LAST EDITED ON May-31-18 AT 11:04AM (MST)[p]>I think it's time for a
>sportsman email campaign to the
>Legislature to return to the
>old system. Fees went
>up and timing is horrible.
> The reasons for the
>change were specious at best.
>
I sent an email the other day, NOT just to complain about the results being out, June 10th is what's published and getting out early IS a luxury that we have grown accustom to. My complaints were as follows: 1, the bear and turkey draw was much later than what was published and nothing was said, no apology, nothing for the inconvenience. 2, I did talk about the trophy timeline is ridiculous as this draw is by far the simplest in the country and should be done within weeks and since the last 8 years its never gone past may 27th they created an expectation that if they aren't going to continue they should put out a statement to that so we all know. 3rd was the way the system charged cards this year....I know of many people who's card had a fraud hold because the charge didn't come from IDFG and was a computer company or something odd. Basically just summed it up that this new contractor sucks and is unprofessional and they should yank their contract and go back to the old system.
I think if a lot of us wrote respectful well worded emails to them not just acting like little kids wanting their draw odds they might be taken seriously and addressed.
>sportsman email campaign to the
>Legislature to return to the
>old system. Fees went
>up and timing is horrible.
> The reasons for the
>change were specious at best.
>
I sent an email the other day, NOT just to complain about the results being out, June 10th is what's published and getting out early IS a luxury that we have grown accustom to. My complaints were as follows: 1, the bear and turkey draw was much later than what was published and nothing was said, no apology, nothing for the inconvenience. 2, I did talk about the trophy timeline is ridiculous as this draw is by far the simplest in the country and should be done within weeks and since the last 8 years its never gone past may 27th they created an expectation that if they aren't going to continue they should put out a statement to that so we all know. 3rd was the way the system charged cards this year....I know of many people who's card had a fraud hold because the charge didn't come from IDFG and was a computer company or something odd. Basically just summed it up that this new contractor sucks and is unprofessional and they should yank their contract and go back to the old system.
I think if a lot of us wrote respectful well worded emails to them not just acting like little kids wanting their draw odds they might be taken seriously and addressed.
>LAST EDITED ON May-31-18
>AT 11:04?AM (MST)
>
>>I think it's time for a
>>sportsman email campaign to the
>>Legislature to return to the
>>old system. Fees went
>>up and timing is horrible.
>> The reasons for the
>>change were specious at best.
>>
>
>
>I sent an email the other
>day, NOT just to complain
>about the results being out,
>June 10th is what's published
>and getting out early IS
>a luxury that we have
>grown accustom to. My
>complaints were as follows:
>1, the bear and turkey
>draw was much later than
>what was published and nothing
>was said, no apology, nothing
>for the inconvenience. 2,
>I did talk about the
>trophy timeline is ridiculous as
>this draw is by far
>the simplest in the country
>and should be done within
>weeks and since the last
>8 years its never gone
>past may 27th they created
>an expectation that if they
>aren't going to continue they
>should put out a statement
>to that so we all
>know. 3rd was the
>way the system charged cards
>this year....I know of many
>people who's card had a
>fraud hold because the charge
>didn't come from IDFG and
>was a computer company or
>something odd. Basically just
>summed it up that this
>new contractor sucks and is
>unprofessional and they should yank
>their contract and go back
>to the old system.
>
>I think if a lot of
>us wrote respectful well worded
>emails to them not just
>acting like little kids wanting
>their draw odds they might
>be taken seriously and addressed.
>
Who did you send the email? Sending it to IDFG is a waste of time. They? we're forced into the new system. The Legislature needs to be notified that there course of action made the process worse and more expensive.
>AT 11:04?AM (MST)
>
>>I think it's time for a
>>sportsman email campaign to the
>>Legislature to return to the
>>old system. Fees went
>>up and timing is horrible.
>> The reasons for the
>>change were specious at best.
>>
>
>
>I sent an email the other
>day, NOT just to complain
>about the results being out,
>June 10th is what's published
>and getting out early IS
>a luxury that we have
>grown accustom to. My
>complaints were as follows:
>1, the bear and turkey
>draw was much later than
>what was published and nothing
>was said, no apology, nothing
>for the inconvenience. 2,
>I did talk about the
>trophy timeline is ridiculous as
>this draw is by far
>the simplest in the country
>and should be done within
>weeks and since the last
>8 years its never gone
>past may 27th they created
>an expectation that if they
>aren't going to continue they
>should put out a statement
>to that so we all
>know. 3rd was the
>way the system charged cards
>this year....I know of many
>people who's card had a
>fraud hold because the charge
>didn't come from IDFG and
>was a computer company or
>something odd. Basically just
>summed it up that this
>new contractor sucks and is
>unprofessional and they should yank
>their contract and go back
>to the old system.
>
>I think if a lot of
>us wrote respectful well worded
>emails to them not just
>acting like little kids wanting
>their draw odds they might
>be taken seriously and addressed.
>
Who did you send the email? Sending it to IDFG is a waste of time. They? we're forced into the new system. The Legislature needs to be notified that there course of action made the process worse and more expensive.
idahohuntr
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>>LAST EDITED ON May-31-18
>>AT 11:04?AM (MST)
>>
>>>I think it's time for a
>>>sportsman email campaign to the
>>>Legislature to return to the
>>>old system. Fees went
>>>up and timing is horrible.
>>> The reasons for the
>>>change were specious at best.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I sent an email the other
>>day, NOT just to complain
>>about the results being out,
>>June 10th is what's published
>>and getting out early IS
>>a luxury that we have
>>grown accustom to. My
>>complaints were as follows:
>>1, the bear and turkey
>>draw was much later than
>>what was published and nothing
>>was said, no apology, nothing
>>for the inconvenience. 2,
>>I did talk about the
>>trophy timeline is ridiculous as
>>this draw is by far
>>the simplest in the country
>>and should be done within
>>weeks and since the last
>>8 years its never gone
>>past may 27th they created
>>an expectation that if they
>>aren't going to continue they
>>should put out a statement
>>to that so we all
>>know. 3rd was the
>>way the system charged cards
>>this year....I know of many
>>people who's card had a
>>fraud hold because the charge
>>didn't come from IDFG and
>>was a computer company or
>>something odd. Basically just
>>summed it up that this
>>new contractor sucks and is
>>unprofessional and they should yank
>>their contract and go back
>>to the old system.
>>
>>I think if a lot of
>>us wrote respectful well worded
>>emails to them not just
>>acting like little kids wanting
>>their draw odds they might
>>be taken seriously and addressed.
>>
>
>Who did you send the email?
> Sending it to IDFG
>is a waste of time.
> They? we're forced into
>the new system. The
>Legislature needs to be notified
>that there course of action
>made the process worse and
>more expensive.
I mentioned doing this in the sheep draw thread...I thought the legislature forced them into something...but others indicated I was wrong on that...do you have any details on what the legislature required that might be contributing to these delays?
It's one thing to be a little impatient, but at the same time working people have to plan and put in for vacation time...a few weeks more notice can actually make a big difference and if the legislature caused this problem...then they should hear about it.
>>AT 11:04?AM (MST)
>>
>>>I think it's time for a
>>>sportsman email campaign to the
>>>Legislature to return to the
>>>old system. Fees went
>>>up and timing is horrible.
>>> The reasons for the
>>>change were specious at best.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I sent an email the other
>>day, NOT just to complain
>>about the results being out,
>>June 10th is what's published
>>and getting out early IS
>>a luxury that we have
>>grown accustom to. My
>>complaints were as follows:
>>1, the bear and turkey
>>draw was much later than
>>what was published and nothing
>>was said, no apology, nothing
>>for the inconvenience. 2,
>>I did talk about the
>>trophy timeline is ridiculous as
>>this draw is by far
>>the simplest in the country
>>and should be done within
>>weeks and since the last
>>8 years its never gone
>>past may 27th they created
>>an expectation that if they
>>aren't going to continue they
>>should put out a statement
>>to that so we all
>>know. 3rd was the
>>way the system charged cards
>>this year....I know of many
>>people who's card had a
>>fraud hold because the charge
>>didn't come from IDFG and
>>was a computer company or
>>something odd. Basically just
>>summed it up that this
>>new contractor sucks and is
>>unprofessional and they should yank
>>their contract and go back
>>to the old system.
>>
>>I think if a lot of
>>us wrote respectful well worded
>>emails to them not just
>>acting like little kids wanting
>>their draw odds they might
>>be taken seriously and addressed.
>>
>
>Who did you send the email?
> Sending it to IDFG
>is a waste of time.
> They? we're forced into
>the new system. The
>Legislature needs to be notified
>that there course of action
>made the process worse and
>more expensive.
I mentioned doing this in the sheep draw thread...I thought the legislature forced them into something...but others indicated I was wrong on that...do you have any details on what the legislature required that might be contributing to these delays?
It's one thing to be a little impatient, but at the same time working people have to plan and put in for vacation time...a few weeks more notice can actually make a big difference and if the legislature caused this problem...then they should hear about it.
andrew12gauge
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Just think about what is going to happen with the grizzly bear draw, application period closes July 15th and season is supposed to open August 30th. Whoever draws that tag is gonna have to be digging grizzlies out of their dens by the time they are notified
>
>I mentioned doing this in the
>sheep draw thread...I thought the
>legislature forced them into something...but
>others indicated I was wrong
>on that...do you have any
>details on what the legislature
>required that might be contributing
>to these delays?
>
Its just the contractor taking their sweet time. the legislature just wanted it done by a third party like all other states do....at least that is my understanding. they just got a shitty contractor that is either lazy or stupid. I am hoping that the June 10th date is a carry over that IDFG used to give themselves plenty of time. I hope they will change the draw dates and make the contractor do it in a timely fashion from now on.
>I mentioned doing this in the
>sheep draw thread...I thought the
>legislature forced them into something...but
>others indicated I was wrong
>on that...do you have any
>details on what the legislature
>required that might be contributing
>to these delays?
>
Its just the contractor taking their sweet time. the legislature just wanted it done by a third party like all other states do....at least that is my understanding. they just got a shitty contractor that is either lazy or stupid. I am hoping that the June 10th date is a carry over that IDFG used to give themselves plenty of time. I hope they will change the draw dates and make the contractor do it in a timely fashion from now on.
customweld
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Idahohntr, it was passed in Bill 1344-S in 2016. Requiring Idaho to hire a private contractor to conduct the drawings.
36-104A. DRAWINGS TO AWARD CONTROLLED HUNT PERMITS -- TAGS -- CONTRACT WITH PRIVATE ENTITY -- PROCEDURE -- RULES. The department shall contract with a private entity to conduct drawings for controlled hunt permits or tags as established by the commission. The drawings must be conducted using a computer program that awards permits and tags based on a random order of selection. The department shall solicit bids for the contract pursuant to Idaho law.
The department shall:
(a) Provide to the private entity to whom a contract is awarded pursuant to the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, any applications for permits or tags, documents or other information required by the private entity to conduct the drawings; and
(b) Otherwise cooperate with the private entity in conducting the drawings
(c) Continue to be solely responsible for enforcement and administration of all laws relating to licenses and tags.
As soon as practicable after a drawing is completed, the private entity shall submit the results of the drawing to the department.
The commission shall adopt rules necessary to carry out the provivsions of this section.
36-104A. DRAWINGS TO AWARD CONTROLLED HUNT PERMITS -- TAGS -- CONTRACT WITH PRIVATE ENTITY -- PROCEDURE -- RULES. The department shall contract with a private entity to conduct drawings for controlled hunt permits or tags as established by the commission. The drawings must be conducted using a computer program that awards permits and tags based on a random order of selection. The department shall solicit bids for the contract pursuant to Idaho law.
The department shall:
(a) Provide to the private entity to whom a contract is awarded pursuant to the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, any applications for permits or tags, documents or other information required by the private entity to conduct the drawings; and
(b) Otherwise cooperate with the private entity in conducting the drawings
(c) Continue to be solely responsible for enforcement and administration of all laws relating to licenses and tags.
As soon as practicable after a drawing is completed, the private entity shall submit the results of the drawing to the department.
The commission shall adopt rules necessary to carry out the provivsions of this section.
>haha well I guess I wasted
>my time then! do
>you have emails for who
>we should write to?
Email the Senate Resources committee members, https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2018/standingcommittees/SRE/ and the House Resource committee members, https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2018/standingcommittees/HRES/
Mention 2016 Bill 1344-S.
>my time then! do
>you have emails for who
>we should write to?
Email the Senate Resources committee members, https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2018/standingcommittees/SRE/ and the House Resource committee members, https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2018/standingcommittees/HRES/
Mention 2016 Bill 1344-S.
broomd
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>I still do the paper application
>due to the rediculous convenience
>fee that really adds up
>when you are paying $2k
>plus for the tag and
>they charge a percentage to
>use a credit card. I'd
>love for them to make
>it easier but after seeing
>what has happened in Colorado
>this year I'll gladly stick
>with the current system and
>the long wait for the
>results.
I laughed out loud when I read this...a guy spends $2K on a tag chance and then quibbles over a few dollars to expedite it.
Too funny.
And we're all at the mercy of this bone-headed contractor. If they can't get the job done on-time or earlier and under budget, it certainly gives pause about the draw process itself.
I picture a bunch of dudes partying while throwing darts at tag numbers, laughing their asses off. "Oops, that's a hanging chad, redo!!"
>due to the rediculous convenience
>fee that really adds up
>when you are paying $2k
>plus for the tag and
>they charge a percentage to
>use a credit card. I'd
>love for them to make
>it easier but after seeing
>what has happened in Colorado
>this year I'll gladly stick
>with the current system and
>the long wait for the
>results.
I laughed out loud when I read this...a guy spends $2K on a tag chance and then quibbles over a few dollars to expedite it.
Too funny.
And we're all at the mercy of this bone-headed contractor. If they can't get the job done on-time or earlier and under budget, it certainly gives pause about the draw process itself.
I picture a bunch of dudes partying while throwing darts at tag numbers, laughing their asses off. "Oops, that's a hanging chad, redo!!"
idahohuntr
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>Idahohntr, it was passed in Bill
>1344-S in 2016. Requiring Idaho
>to hire a private contractor
>to conduct the drawings.
>
>36-104A. DRAWINGS TO AWARD CONTROLLED HUNT
>PERMITS -- TAGS -- CONTRACT
>WITH PRIVATE ENTITY -- PROCEDURE
>-- RULES. The department shall
>contract with a private entity
>to conduct drawings for controlled
>hunt permits or tags as
>established by the commission. The
>drawings must be conducted using
>a computer program that awards
>permits and tags based on
>a random order of selection.
>The department shall solicit bids
>for the contract pursuant to
>Idaho law.
> The department shall:
> (a) Provide to the private
>entity to whom a contract
>is awarded pursuant to the
>provisions of subsection (1) of
>this section, any applications for
>permits or tags, documents or
>other information required by the
>private entity to conduct the
>drawings; and
>(b) Otherwise cooperate with the private
>entity in conducting the drawings
>
>
>(c) Continue to be solely responsible
>for enforcement and administration of
>all laws relating to licenses
>and tags.
> As soon as practicable after
>a drawing is completed, the
>private entity shall submit the
>results of the drawing to
>the department.
> The commission shall adopt rules
>necessary to carry out the
>provivsions of this section.
So...absent this legislation, the drawing would continue to be conducted by IDFG staff, which were more efficient and lower cost...do I have that right? Or was IDFG going to contract it out anyways? I know they've always had a license vendor, but I thought up until this legislation their license division staff actually did the work on the drawing.
>1344-S in 2016. Requiring Idaho
>to hire a private contractor
>to conduct the drawings.
>
>36-104A. DRAWINGS TO AWARD CONTROLLED HUNT
>PERMITS -- TAGS -- CONTRACT
>WITH PRIVATE ENTITY -- PROCEDURE
>-- RULES. The department shall
>contract with a private entity
>to conduct drawings for controlled
>hunt permits or tags as
>established by the commission. The
>drawings must be conducted using
>a computer program that awards
>permits and tags based on
>a random order of selection.
>The department shall solicit bids
>for the contract pursuant to
>Idaho law.
> The department shall:
> (a) Provide to the private
>entity to whom a contract
>is awarded pursuant to the
>provisions of subsection (1) of
>this section, any applications for
>permits or tags, documents or
>other information required by the
>private entity to conduct the
>drawings; and
>(b) Otherwise cooperate with the private
>entity in conducting the drawings
>
>
>(c) Continue to be solely responsible
>for enforcement and administration of
>all laws relating to licenses
>and tags.
> As soon as practicable after
>a drawing is completed, the
>private entity shall submit the
>results of the drawing to
>the department.
> The commission shall adopt rules
>necessary to carry out the
>provivsions of this section.
So...absent this legislation, the drawing would continue to be conducted by IDFG staff, which were more efficient and lower cost...do I have that right? Or was IDFG going to contract it out anyways? I know they've always had a license vendor, but I thought up until this legislation their license division staff actually did the work on the drawing.
customweld
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>>Idahohntr, it was passed in Bill
>>1344-S in 2016. Requiring Idaho
>>to hire a private contractor
>>to conduct the drawings.
>>
>>36-104A. DRAWINGS TO AWARD CONTROLLED HUNT
>>PERMITS -- TAGS -- CONTRACT
>>WITH PRIVATE ENTITY -- PROCEDURE
>>-- RULES. The department shall
>>contract with a private entity
>>to conduct drawings for controlled
>>hunt permits or tags as
>>established by the commission. The
>>drawings must be conducted using
>>a computer program that awards
>>permits and tags based on
>>a random order of selection.
>>The department shall solicit bids
>>for the contract pursuant to
>>Idaho law.
>> The department shall:
>> (a) Provide to the private
>>entity to whom a contract
>>is awarded pursuant to the
>>provisions of subsection (1) of
>>this section, any applications for
>>permits or tags, documents or
>>other information required by the
>>private entity to conduct the
>>drawings; and
>>(b) Otherwise cooperate with the private
>>entity in conducting the drawings
>>
>>
>>(c) Continue to be solely responsible
>>for enforcement and administration of
>>all laws relating to licenses
>>and tags.
>> As soon as practicable after
>>a drawing is completed, the
>>private entity shall submit the
>>results of the drawing to
>>the department.
>> The commission shall adopt rules
>>necessary to carry out the
>>provivsions of this section.
>
>So...absent this legislation, the drawing would
>continue to be conducted by
>IDFG staff, which were more
>efficient and lower cost...do I
>have that right? Or
>was IDFG going to contract
>it out anyways? I
>know they've always had a
>license vendor, but I thought
>up until this legislation their
>license division staff actually did
>the work on the drawing.
>
I believe you are correct.
>>1344-S in 2016. Requiring Idaho
>>to hire a private contractor
>>to conduct the drawings.
>>
>>36-104A. DRAWINGS TO AWARD CONTROLLED HUNT
>>PERMITS -- TAGS -- CONTRACT
>>WITH PRIVATE ENTITY -- PROCEDURE
>>-- RULES. The department shall
>>contract with a private entity
>>to conduct drawings for controlled
>>hunt permits or tags as
>>established by the commission. The
>>drawings must be conducted using
>>a computer program that awards
>>permits and tags based on
>>a random order of selection.
>>The department shall solicit bids
>>for the contract pursuant to
>>Idaho law.
>> The department shall:
>> (a) Provide to the private
>>entity to whom a contract
>>is awarded pursuant to the
>>provisions of subsection (1) of
>>this section, any applications for
>>permits or tags, documents or
>>other information required by the
>>private entity to conduct the
>>drawings; and
>>(b) Otherwise cooperate with the private
>>entity in conducting the drawings
>>
>>
>>(c) Continue to be solely responsible
>>for enforcement and administration of
>>all laws relating to licenses
>>and tags.
>> As soon as practicable after
>>a drawing is completed, the
>>private entity shall submit the
>>results of the drawing to
>>the department.
>> The commission shall adopt rules
>>necessary to carry out the
>>provivsions of this section.
>
>So...absent this legislation, the drawing would
>continue to be conducted by
>IDFG staff, which were more
>efficient and lower cost...do I
>have that right? Or
>was IDFG going to contract
>it out anyways? I
>know they've always had a
>license vendor, but I thought
>up until this legislation their
>license division staff actually did
>the work on the drawing.
>
I believe you are correct.
huntfishall1
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LAST EDITED ON May-31-18 AT 08:11PM (MST)[p]A few dollars? I guess you are clueless as to the convenience fee then. It's a percentage of the tag cost, 3%, plus $3.50. So it's like $70 extra for a non resident OIL tag. It takes me ten minutes to fill in the extra easy paper app, slip it in an envelope and put a stamp on it. I get the $2k+ back or a tag, they keep the extra $70 either way. This is every year, so it really adds up. You can be lazy and waste your money but I'll keep mine and use it wisely.
RidgeRebel
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I applied for moose and definitely paid a convenience fee of $73 dollars or something close to that. I was not aware of it and a little upset but it was my fault for not learning more. It was my first year.
LIK2HNT
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I do the same. Buy the license early every year on my credit yard and then apply for moose with a paper application. Use to be for me and my daughter, that's a lot of money to saved for a few minutes of writing and the price of a stamp. Luckily she drew out in 2016. As a Non Resident it is getting harder and harder to stay in this game of multiple states.
Bill
Bill
sticksender
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-01-18 AT 08:43AM (MST)[p]>I don't believe a word of
>that.....I'll call tomorrow to ascertain
>if there is a 3%
>fee for that use.
>The convenience fee in the past
>was a flat $5, regardless
>of tag cost.
>
>We'll soon see...
You can save yourself the call....the 3% fee has been charged for at least the past 15 years. It gets tacked on to everything you purchase on-line....licenses, applications, supertag chances, etc. There is no refund given for the 3% fee when you don't draw, they keep it.
Here's my non-resident OIL app receipt for this year:
>that.....I'll call tomorrow to ascertain
>if there is a 3%
>fee for that use.
>The convenience fee in the past
>was a flat $5, regardless
>of tag cost.
>
>We'll soon see...
You can save yourself the call....the 3% fee has been charged for at least the past 15 years. It gets tacked on to everything you purchase on-line....licenses, applications, supertag chances, etc. There is no refund given for the 3% fee when you don't draw, they keep it.
Here's my non-resident OIL app receipt for this year:
hunthigher
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Use a capital one business card and you get 2% cash back, helps a little on all these "fees"
greatbasin
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Can somebody please get these people to hit the Enter key and get us some results already!
I know, I know June 10th. I'm just hoping for a good news Friday.
I know, I know June 10th. I'm just hoping for a good news Friday.
andrew12gauge
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>Can somebody please get these people
>to hit the Enter key
>and get us some results
>already!
>
>I know, I know June 10th.
>I'm just hoping for a
>good news Friday.
>
>
I'd just hope you actually get results by June 10th, posting results by the deadline would be a huge accomplishment after the 1st 2 draws of the year
>to hit the Enter key
>and get us some results
>already!
>
>I know, I know June 10th.
>I'm just hoping for a
>good news Friday.
>
>
I'd just hope you actually get results by June 10th, posting results by the deadline would be a huge accomplishment after the 1st 2 draws of the year
greatbasin
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>I'd just hope you actually get
>results by June 10th, posting
>results by the deadline would
>be a huge accomplishment after
>the 1st 2 draws of
>the year
True dat!
>results by June 10th, posting
>results by the deadline would
>be a huge accomplishment after
>the 1st 2 draws of
>the year
True dat!
Onelegwonder
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My odds just went up .00000001 on super tags! Yes! ?
elkboy32
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I just saw this on Tad Sherman's facebook page. He is president of the Idaho State Bowhunters and I don't know his connection, but he has one...
"Dear sportsman of Idaho, a few years ago Senator Brackett introduced a bill making the F&G change to a different system for the draws. At this point they are later than they have ever been for the OIL tags, the bear tags had issues as well. So instead of being upset with IDF&G please make sure you show your appreciation to Sen. Bert Brackett. His phone number is 208-857-2217.
For those of you wanting transparency in the draws that did not understand them in the first place, make sure you call and support this cluster
BTW thgis was sold as a $120,000 and will cost the F&G 1.2 mil to have this mess."
I think if we have any chance of seeing the results before the 10th, it will be Friday. Tad also went on to say the new system is so screwed up they went back to the original draw system! I doubt the results will be posted on time......
"Dear sportsman of Idaho, a few years ago Senator Brackett introduced a bill making the F&G change to a different system for the draws. At this point they are later than they have ever been for the OIL tags, the bear tags had issues as well. So instead of being upset with IDF&G please make sure you show your appreciation to Sen. Bert Brackett. His phone number is 208-857-2217.
For those of you wanting transparency in the draws that did not understand them in the first place, make sure you call and support this cluster
BTW thgis was sold as a $120,000 and will cost the F&G 1.2 mil to have this mess."
I think if we have any chance of seeing the results before the 10th, it will be Friday. Tad also went on to say the new system is so screwed up they went back to the original draw system! I doubt the results will be posted on time......
idahohuntr
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>I just saw this on Tad
>Sherman's facebook page. He is
>president of the Idaho State
>Bowhunters and I don't know
>his connection, but he has
>one...
>
>"Dear sportsman of Idaho, a few
>years ago Senator Brackett introduced
>a bill making the F&G
>change to a different system
>for the draws. At this
>point they are later than
>they have ever been for
>the OIL tags, the bear
>tags had issues as well.
>So instead of being upset
>with IDF&G please make sure
>you show your appreciation to
>Sen. Bert Brackett. His phone
>number is 208-857-2217.
>
>For those of you wanting transparency
>in the draws that did
>not understand them in the
>first place, make sure you
>call and support this cluster
>
>
>BTW thgis was sold as a
>$120,000 and will cost the
>F&G 1.2 mil to have
>this mess."
>
>
>
>I think if we have any
>chance of seeing the results
>before the 10th, it will
>be Friday. Tad also went
>on to say the new
>system is so screwed up
>they went back to the
>original draw system! I doubt
>the results will be posted
>on time......
Just the info I was looking for...let's make sure to refresh this when the deer/elk draws are late too.
>Sherman's facebook page. He is
>president of the Idaho State
>Bowhunters and I don't know
>his connection, but he has
>one...
>
>"Dear sportsman of Idaho, a few
>years ago Senator Brackett introduced
>a bill making the F&G
>change to a different system
>for the draws. At this
>point they are later than
>they have ever been for
>the OIL tags, the bear
>tags had issues as well.
>So instead of being upset
>with IDF&G please make sure
>you show your appreciation to
>Sen. Bert Brackett. His phone
>number is 208-857-2217.
>
>For those of you wanting transparency
>in the draws that did
>not understand them in the
>first place, make sure you
>call and support this cluster
>
>
>BTW thgis was sold as a
>$120,000 and will cost the
>F&G 1.2 mil to have
>this mess."
>
>
>
>I think if we have any
>chance of seeing the results
>before the 10th, it will
>be Friday. Tad also went
>on to say the new
>system is so screwed up
>they went back to the
>original draw system! I doubt
>the results will be posted
>on time......
Just the info I was looking for...let's make sure to refresh this when the deer/elk draws are late too.
customweld
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Yep, the site is down. I think I'm about to melt down.
bigcreekmetal
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>Yep, the site is down. I
>think I'm about to melt
>down.
LOL
>think I'm about to melt
>down.
LOL
smokepoll
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Do you guys think that they (new vendor) were close enough on the OIL draw process that things are ok (with the 10th)? Or is this whole cluster with the Deer, Elk, Ant. and the system shutting down, F&G recommending paper app, rumors of extension until the 7th ..... on and on going to effect OIL notification? I would think panic mode for the vendor may be setting in. They seem 2B over their head.
Onelegwonder
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>They are over their head, we'll
>be lucky to get it
>by the 10th of July!!!
> Also goes to question
>how their system picks the
>winners too. At this
>point probably printed a master
>list and started randomly circling
>names as winner...LOL!!!
Funny you say that my friend and I were joking that we would have gladly taken whatever the new vendor got for this contract and taken a couple of days to print out, cut out names, put them in a hat and drawn the names, cross referenced eligibility and gotten the results out much much faster than this. Evan if it took us a week to do that. But hell we are in the Information Age what do I know ??
>be lucky to get it
>by the 10th of July!!!
> Also goes to question
>how their system picks the
>winners too. At this
>point probably printed a master
>list and started randomly circling
>names as winner...LOL!!!
Funny you say that my friend and I were joking that we would have gladly taken whatever the new vendor got for this contract and taken a couple of days to print out, cut out names, put them in a hat and drawn the names, cross referenced eligibility and gotten the results out much much faster than this. Evan if it took us a week to do that. But hell we are in the Information Age what do I know ??
OLDHORNHUNTER
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For what its worth !!!! Just hung up with IDFG Boise office Simple Question asked does anyone have ANY idea when the OIL draw results will be out !!!!! I was told by the lady in the office they are not even DONE yet !!!!
customweld
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Just going out on a limb here. I don't think they are going to have the fliers mailed out to everyone by the 10th! I wonder how they are going to handle the second drawing period (June 15th-25th).
andrew12gauge
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>Just going out on a limb
>here. I don't think they
>are going to have the
>fliers mailed out to everyone
>by the 10th! I wonder
>how they are going to
>handle the second drawing period
>(June 15th-25th).
They haven't had a second draw on any of the trophy species in a couple years, even the wilderness moose tags have all had quotas met
>here. I don't think they
>are going to have the
>fliers mailed out to everyone
>by the 10th! I wonder
>how they are going to
>handle the second drawing period
>(June 15th-25th).
They haven't had a second draw on any of the trophy species in a couple years, even the wilderness moose tags have all had quotas met
customweld
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>>Just going out on a limb
>>here. I don't think they
>>are going to have the
>>fliers mailed out to everyone
>>by the 10th! I wonder
>>how they are going to
>>handle the second drawing period
>>(June 15th-25th).
>
>They haven't had a second draw
>on any of the trophy
>species in a couple years,
>even the wilderness moose tags
>have all had quotas met
>
Shoot, I guess I better pay closer attention! There used to be quite a few of the antlerless moose leftover in the north units.
>>here. I don't think they
>>are going to have the
>>fliers mailed out to everyone
>>by the 10th! I wonder
>>how they are going to
>>handle the second drawing period
>>(June 15th-25th).
>
>They haven't had a second draw
>on any of the trophy
>species in a couple years,
>even the wilderness moose tags
>have all had quotas met
>
Shoot, I guess I better pay closer attention! There used to be quite a few of the antlerless moose leftover in the north units.
sticksender
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No leftovers since 2012.
jdubya
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Here are the details on Sen. Brackett's legislative initiative that led to this mess.
http://magicvalley.com/lawmakers-su...cle_8de42ffc-d5d7-5d15-9e07-654ee22a5b3c.html
http://magicvalley.com/lawmakers-su...cle_8de42ffc-d5d7-5d15-9e07-654ee22a5b3c.html
OLDHORNHUNTER
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Just thought I would share the latest info I was given by our wonderful F&G department !! I did NOT get that return call from the lady I originally spoke with yesterday morning { SURPRISE } so I called back at 330 yesterday 7 spoke with another lady in the same office & told her I had been waiting for a return call from so & so !! She puts me on hold to ask someone for the answer to my When will the results be available Question !!! after about 5 minutes she comes back on to say she was told by 2 different F&G people the results would be available wait for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUNE 10TH & added LIKE IT SAYS IN THE REGS !!!! SO the official release of this info will be JUNE 10TH they have spoken !! so it shall be !!
HGHCOUNTRY
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I would be shocked if they release the results on a weekend-let alone a Sunday (the 10th).
greatbasin
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Only IDF@G department that works on the weekend is enforcement.
the results would be
>available wait for
>it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUNE
>10TH & added LIKE
>IT SAYS IN THE REGS
>!!!! SO the
>official release of this info
Fine. Some consistency would be good for all. When they call at the end of October for my harvest report on deer I am going to say "There are archery hunts my tag is good for that end on Dec 31. You will be notified by ten days after the close of the season, JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN THE REGS!!"
>available wait for
>it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUNE
>10TH & added LIKE
>IT SAYS IN THE REGS
>!!!! SO the
>official release of this info
Fine. Some consistency would be good for all. When they call at the end of October for my harvest report on deer I am going to say "There are archery hunts my tag is good for that end on Dec 31. You will be notified by ten days after the close of the season, JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN THE REGS!!"
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