bizarre elk dieoff...massive

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DougW

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Hey guys what is going on up by Rawlins? Go to the new press release on the G&F pages today. Some sort of sickness killing 200 elk, mostly cows, many found barely alive in the last few days. And it's not deep snow. This one looks BAD. ??

doug
 
Doug,
Just looked at the Wyoming Division of Wildlife website.
Death toll is now at 275 and growing.
Seems CWD and other diseases have been ruled out.
Scary, I wonder what the heck is going on?
Thanks for the heads up.
Best,
Jerry
 
Terrorist experimentation? Aliens? I bet somebody dumped something illegal and nasty near a pond. It could be some sort of disease, but to kill that many in a small area, I bet they drank a poison.
 
I bet they are working on it right now. Should be interesting to see what it is. Too bad.
 
come on ppl. its been a few days without an update. Whats going on with these elk? It sounds like something that could dessimate an elk herd. Not that the wolves arent allready doing that any ways.
 
Alot of my buds hunt around their. I guess that herd is pretty healty most of the time. Whatever it is I hope it does not spread in the direction of Casper.
Michael
 
It must be the dirty work of a pissed off Sasquatch!
It is probably some sort of toxin not usually found in the area.
Some chemical leeching into the ground and being absorbed by the plants or noxious weeds. We had a bighorn herd wiped out by yellow star thistle. Whatever it is, I hope that they find out what it is in a hurry! I dont care how large a herd is, dropping several hundred out of it will take quite some time to replenish.
Eric
 
Polarbear,

Can you share more information about the bighorn herd that was wiped out by star thistle?????


ramslam
 
I read a recent article that there is a lot of oil and gas drilling rigs in the area. I wonder if the "drilling mud" they pour in the hole has leached into the water supply? Maybe it's not even toxic, I don't know.

The article stated they have found over 280 dead elk in a 15 square mile area and there are more but they have quit counting. The reason they haven't found many dead bulls is because they aren't in the area, they are in bachelor groups and hanging out in higher elevations. Anyone have an update???
 
No update but can a chemical or some substance effect one animal and not another, they say the deer in the area are fine, its just the elk dying so does that rule out poison?
 
Here is the link to the latest update from March 5. One of the sick elk they captured died in captivity. They still dont know what is going on, the elk are drinking fine, look good but arent eating.

http://gf.state.wy.us/services/news/pressreleases/04/03/05/040305_1.asp

Mike
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Sounds pretty crazy to me! Hopefully they can find the cause before it starts to spread around the state and other states!
YB
 
this came off the wyoming F&G site.

RAWLINS ? The first live but afflicted elk transported from the area southwest of Rawlins where 280 have lost leg muscle strength and died or been euthanized, died at the Wyoming State Veterinary Laboratory Friday morning.

Although the Game and Fish Department manages big game animals in terms of statewide populations and herds, this cow elk had become a focal point in the quest to discover the mysterious malady after her capture Feb. 29.

Veterinarians had treated the elk for dehydration, plus administered B vitamins, vitamin E, selenium and anti-inflammatory drugs trying to gain insights into the malady.

Lead G&F veterinarian Walt Cook said the elk was drinking well, but not eating, and looked good Thursday evening. Three elk captured March 1 are still living and have good vital signs, except they also are not eating.

?Lack of appetite may be a result of the sickness or perhaps just stress,? Cook said. ?Hopefully the elk will start eating.?

In the arduous process to identify the source of malady, WSVL personnel have now ruled out calcium deficiency. Last week the laboratory eliminated chronic wasting disease, bacterial and common viral infections, tick paralysis, meningeal and carotid artery worm as causes. Mercury poisoning, selenium toxicity, many of the common plant toxins, some insecticides, a variety of metals and salt, nitrate and sulfate poisoning have also been eliminated.

The G&F is surveying a 50-square-mile area for sick elk and also taking extensive plant samples for analysis.

The discovery of dying elk was initially reported to the department on Feb. 8 when a coyote hunter found two elk approximately 15 miles from Rawlins that were alive, but unable to move.

Officials say there is no evidence to suggest any human health risk and that this malady appears to affect only elk.
 
Ramslam
It has been a couple of years but the main game officer in charge of the area (Vulcan Mountain) told me that that herd was all but wiped out by toxic yellow star thistle and pneumonia of some sort. I had never heard of yellow star thistle before that and have no idea if it realy is toxic. I am going off of what the game biologist told me. I was talking to another WDFG biologist a few weeks ago and he said that they are bringing back the Vulcan Mountain herd and are aiming to have them healthy enough for a hunt within the next couple of years. A friend of mine has property at Vulcan and drew a permit a few years back. His ram had 36" curls. Pretty nice looking ram and damn good eating!
Eric
 
Hmmmmm. Very interesting. The Washington FNAWS chapter has helped fund some research up there. Bios just placed a satellite collar on one ewe and one ram. The collar takes a hit every 6 hours and logs the location. After one year the collar is collected and the data downloaded. They are trying to figure out what is happening to the sheep up there. I have not heard anything about the star thistle but have heard there was a parasite found in the sheep that is usually only found in mule deer. I would doubt the star thistle theory and I think that bio is smoking some other kind of weed!! Im down here on the Snake River where we have a tremendous infestation of star thistle and it does not kill sheep. It sure doesnt help the range conditions but it does not kill sheep. I do know that if a horse consumes a bunch of it that it can be deadly for them.

Thanks for the info!

Glen
 
herd they were boycotting the raise in the fees,
they were refusing to eat.
untill fees came back down.
Its a goverment top secreet, no one was suppost to know.
it was suppose to prevent CWD, but like many of their expermints, something has to die first to find the right geans that will survive the cure. it happened in the black plague.
i"d hate to be the first person that leaked this out to the press.
 
RAWLINS?A little plant that is part fungus and part alga is responsible for the deaths of nearly 300 elk near here. The plant is a lichen known as Parmelia that is abundant in desert soils around the state.

?We had lichen on the list of toxic plants that our veterinarians were investigating,? said Tom Reed, spokesperson for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. ?We were faintly optimistic that this may have been the cause, but didn't want to get our hopes up.?

This past weekend, tests revealed that the lichen was indeed the cause of the strange affliction that had taken down 295 elk in a month?s time. On Feb. 8, two cow elk were discovered in the desert about 15 miles southwest of Rawlins that could not rise and run when approached by agency personnel. As field crews searched the area in subsequent days, the number of elk afflicted slowly increased to nearly 300, scattered over a 50 square mile area of high desert in and around the department's Daley Ranch wildlife habitat area. All exhibited the same symptoms: inability to rise from the ground, while remaining alert and vocal. Elk that were not found and euthanized by agency personnel died a slow, stressful death from starvation or dehydration.

Scientists found parmelia in the stomachs of afflicted elk, starting an exhaustive chain of investigation. That effort was borne out this weekend, when captive elk that had been on a diet of parmelia went down with the same symptoms, said Dr. Terry Kreeger, a veterinarian with the department.

Parmelia produces an acid that may break down muscle tissue, causing the elk to lose strength, said Dr. Walt Cook, who has been working on this incident non-stop since it was discovered more than a month ago. Cook and colleagues at the Wyoming State Veterinary Laboratory were instrumental in narrowing down the laundry list of possible causes, but more work will need to be done in coming weeks.

?We are going to need to do further necropsy work to explore the exact physiology behind this,? said Cook.

Additionally, officials are going to try to learn more about the lichen itself and why, or if, it accumulated inordinately high amounts of acid this year.

?There are a lot of factors we'll need to look at,? said Reed. ?Do elk eat this lichen in normal years? If so, why hasn't this happened before? Does a long history of drought weigh in somehow? If so, what are our management options in the future? These are all questions we are going to try to answer in the coming months.

?But we've answered the biggest and most important question: What the heck is killing these elk?? said Reed. ?It's a huge relief for everyone involved. A lot of people worked their tails off on this mystery. But we have some of the best minds in wildlife science right here in Wyoming and they came up with results.?

Healthy elk that were wintering on the Daley Ranch southwest of here are now following the receding snowline back toward the Sierra Madre mountains, and three cows in that herd are wearing radio collars so biologists can learn a little more about this elk population.

?Elk don't normally winter down on the Daley unit where they ate the lichen,? said Reed. ?But for whatever reason, this year they moved in there. Elk are incredibly adaptable, tough animals. They?ll get by on thin rations and they'll make do somehow. But this year, nearly three hundred of them paid the price for that adaptability.?

No other animals including horses, cattle, antelope, deer or scavengers in the area were afflicted.
 
CNN just reported that the BIO TECHS report that it was "LICHON"
PLANT NATIVE TO THE ROCKIES that killed the 307 elk!
Appearntly they eaten this plant!
RACKMASTER
 
Thanks windsurfer for the update. How bizarre. Now I'm even more interested in why the lichen affected them like it did.
 

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