"Unit 50 Elk"

Archived thread - Read only 
Previous Topic | Next Topic 
Conferences New Mexico (Protected)
Original message

MWHill2 (13 posts) Click to EMail MWHill2 Click to send private message to MWHill2 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 09:46 AM (MST)
"Unit 50 Elk"

My father in law, a friend and myself were forturnate enough to be drawn for a unit 50 Bull Elk hunt. The hunt is Oct. 8-12 and is a rifle hunt. I live in Texas (by Houston) but love hunting in New Mexico. Being so far away, I have to do most of my scouting utilizing google earth as well as maps. I realize this unit is mainly a migrational unit but am hopeing that there are some resident Elk. I am a fire fighter and my friend is an officer so we usually go to the local FD and PD hoping to find some hunters willing to give a little info. If any of you are familar with this unit and willing to pass along some info we would appreciate it greatly. This will be our first time hunting elk and we have always been do it yourself type hunters. We are not afraid to walk to avoid crowds.

  Top

  Table of Contents

  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Unit 50 Elk nmwapiti Jul-19-11 1
   RE: Unit 50 Elk fishfurlife Jul-19-11 2
 RE: Unit 50 Elk ElkSniper Jul-19-11 3
   RE: Unit 50 Elk windstalker Jul-19-11 4
 RE: Unit 50 Elk nmhunter01 Jul-19-11 5
   RE: Unit 50 Elk SweetBull Jul-19-11 6
       RE: Unit 50 Elk greatwestern Jul-19-11 7
           RE: Unit 50 Elk fishfurlife Jul-19-11 8
               RE: Unit 50 Elk WapitiBob Jul-19-11 9
                   RE: Unit 50 Elk fishfurlife Jul-20-11 10
                       RE: Unit 50 Elk fishfurlife Jul-20-11 11
                           RE: Unit 50 Elk WapitiBob Jul-20-11 12
 RE: Unit 50 Elk MWHill2 Jul-20-11 13
   RE: Unit 50 Elk ElkSniper Jul-20-11 14
 RE: Unit 50 Elk biggamehunter35 Jul-20-11 15
   RE: Unit 50 Elk wallhanger Nov-17-11 16
       RE: Unit 50 Elk Gator Nov-17-11 17

Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

Messages in this topic

nmwapiti (654 posts) Click to EMail nmwapiti Click to send private message to nmwapiti Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 09:49 AM (MST)
1. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Tough unit but there are elk there. Very little water in that unit so find the water and you should be good. Cerro Montoso (Pot Mountain)would be a good area to check out.

  Top

fishfurlife (241 posts) Click to EMail fishfurlife Click to send private message to fishfurlife Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 12:57 PM (MST)
2. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

I will be out there for the first time in the unit during archery season, maybe I can help out after I spend a week there.

  Top

ElkSniper (1059 posts) Click to EMail ElkSniper Click to send private message to ElkSniper Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 02:54 PM (MST)
3. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

One of the hardest units I know. We know the country very good and most of the hunts that we go on in unit 50 were unsuccessful. Can't remember where I read it but its like a 17% success rate. It is possible to get an elk there. In my opinion you got to be at the right place at the right time.

Good Luck

  Top

windstalker (0 posts) Click to EMail windstalker Click to send private message to windstalker Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 03:25 PM (MST)
4. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

That unit is not a good unit. NEVER SAW AN ELK THE WHLOE HUNT I HAD 2 YEARS AGO.

  Top

nmhunter01 (58 posts) Click to EMail nmhunter01 Click to send private message to nmhunter01 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 04:33 PM (MST)
5. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

PM sent

  Top

SweetBull (163 posts) Click to EMail SweetBull Click to send private message to SweetBull Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 04:53 PM (MST)
6. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Well the dpt hands out 455 elk permits for that unit this year in the public draw, not including LO tags. So i would assume either there is a sizable population with plenty of huntable herds or they are trying to wipe elk clean out of there. who knows ... good luck

  Top

greatwestern (958 posts) Click to EMail greatwestern Click to send private message to greatwestern Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 06:16 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

50 is primarily winter range, but there is a decent population of resident elk living dispersed throughout the unit. Get a hold of the appropriate BLM surface status maps (Taos and Wheeler quadrants cover most of it), as there is a sizable amount of private in the northern half that is NOT 'unit wide' designation, including portions of Pot (cerro de la Olla) and Wind Mtns, and some of the Montoso.

Don't get discouraged by some of the spotty info that has been posted on here, but likewise, don't get carried away with thoughts of animals everywhere and monster bulls...during the public seasons, there are simply not many elk on the unit, and age class bulls are extremely rare. The whole place is also drier than hell right now, not much green to speak of thus far

Drop a note if ya want, and I can tell ya about some productive areas that are generally overlooked...the southern end has some good stuff as well

Cheers'

  Top

fishfurlife (241 posts) Click to EMail fishfurlife Click to send private message to fishfurlife Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 09:41 PM (MST)
8. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Greatwestern,

That brings up a decent question. I have not used the "Unit Wide" designated land in the past because Public Ground has sufficed pretty good. I can see myself possibly trying to use some of the designated land but am running into road blocks finding maps that show these ranch location. Obviously you can see them on the E-plus list, but is that the only way to figure out where they are or am I completely missing a map here?

  Top

WapitiBob (3322 posts) Click to EMail WapitiBob Click to send private message to WapitiBob Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-19-11, 11:09 PM (MST)
9. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Not speaking for GW but you need to file a Freedom of Information Act request listing the maps you want. The dept will forward your request to the legal dept for review and if approved, The state Information Officer will send you a bill for "handling and copying". Once paid they will forward what maps they have on file.

Not all maps are there and none can be verified by the dept for accuracy. Citing the Title 19 requirements for landowner participation in the Eplus or SCR program gets you nowhere.

Been there, got the T shirt.

As an aside, I have been told they no longer mail the maps and require you to physically show up in Santa Fe to get maps.

  Top

fishfurlife (241 posts) Click to EMail fishfurlife Click to send private message to fishfurlife Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-11, 06:42 AM (MST)
10. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Thanks Wapiti. I guess I was meaning the question to the whole group. Sorry for just singling you out GW.

Wow. That sounds like a nice and easy process. I guess the next best thing is to just give the landowners a call to ask where their property is located. After hearing that, my guess is that the Unit wide private land doesn't see to much use overall.

  Top

fishfurlife (241 posts) Click to EMail fishfurlife Click to send private message to fishfurlife Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-11, 06:51 AM (MST)
11. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

or a plat map of county ownership may work as well I guess and just hope you get lucky to have the same owners as those listed on the E-plus list.

In short, it sounds like I will most likely be sticking to public ground.

  Top

WapitiBob (3322 posts) Click to EMail WapitiBob Click to send private message to WapitiBob Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-11, 11:32 AM (MST)
12. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

I would call and get an update, things may have changed.

  Top

MWHill2 (13 posts) Click to EMail MWHill2 Click to send private message to MWHill2 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-11, 02:27 PM (MST)
13. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Thanks for all the information. I will keep trying to get info off the web and from maps.. Hope to find a camp close to where we choose to hunt. Do elk bugle that time of year (first of October?

  Top

ElkSniper (1059 posts) Click to EMail ElkSniper Click to send private message to ElkSniper Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-11, 03:48 PM (MST)
14. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Your hunt is at the end of the rut. They should still be bugling.

  Top

biggamehunter35 (148 posts) Click to EMail biggamehunter35 Click to send private message to biggamehunter35 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jul-20-11, 07:24 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

It is a tough unit which i have hunt it in the past i have take a nice 6x6 out of cerro de la olla there is a water hole on the top of the mountion. Well there was one there in the past if you come up on the back side where the burned area is i have see elk on the way up it is alot easier walking on the back side. Also the elk come up from drink water from the rio grande by chiflo mountion early in there morning they are make there way towards cerro de la olla and sometime towards cerro montosa so keep your eyes open towards the Sage brush. I hope i was a little helpful. Have a fun trip good luck on your trip post pictures if you guys get one.

  Top

wallhanger (812 posts) Click to EMail wallhanger Click to send private message to wallhanger Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-17-11, 08:50 AM (MST)
16. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

Any of you guys ever see any muleys in 50?

  Top

Gator (13204 posts) Click to EMail Gator Click to send private message to Gator Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-17-11, 09:14 AM (MST)
17. "RE: Unit 50 Elk"

How did your hunt go.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
>Life member of
>the MM green signature club.


  Top


Remove

Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic