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peakfreak

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When this liberal wins the nominee tomorrow McDonalds should make a sandwich full of bull$hit and name it the McCain.

McMenu pricing

McRib - 2.99

McChicken - 2.99

McNuggets - 2.99

McCain - free to all who voted for him.
 
he's not gonna win ca.............but if romney calls my house 1 more time I might scratch him too

JB
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-05-08 AT 00:40AM (MST)[p]One poll here inCa. shows Romney within 1% of McStain as of Monday afternoon.
Romney has a good chance in California, the largest state.
It aint over till the fat lady sings.
 
Was listening to Glen Beck last night when a sweet old lady called in. She was going on about how she loved McCain and he was a war hero. She kept bringing up the war hero thing. So the guy pushes her to move beyond war hero to tell him why she liked McCain and she goes for the Homeland Security thing. Then he asks how McCain has helped homeland security by supporting or not supporting the border. She didn't know anything about McCain or his policy of do nothing on the border.

The guy brings up the fact that Romney has not done anything either but he is also not a 25 year vetran of the senate. McCain has had 25 years to deal with the border and has chosen to sit on his hands. Romney enabled his state troopers to check the legal citizenship status of motorists or criminals that were pulled over or detained. If they were illegal they were deported or given over to the INS.

It was a good conversation but the lady would not let go of the war hero thing. If McCain wins tomorrow it will be a big blow for conservatism.

"One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
 
LOL peak!!!

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT!!!

"I'M VOTING FOR HIM"!!!

OR!!!!

"I'M VOTING FOR HER"!!!

"I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY THOUGH"!!!

THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY BETTER WAKE THE HELL UP CUZZ I DON'T SEE OUR GOVERNMENT WAKING UP SOON AT ALL!!!

AS I'VE STATED MANY TIMES!!!

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS EVER AGAIN!!!

BEEN THERE!!!

DONE THAT!!!

AIN'T DOING IT AGAIN!!!

THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
I'm afraid that if McCain gets the nomination, I'll have to vote Constitution party cuz McCain or the Dems, we're continuing down the drain.
 
McCain is going to get the nomination. would you rather have him as someone who has a slight chance against Hillary or Obama or Romney who they'd mop the floor with?
 
McCain is toast in the debates against Hillary or Obama. Get ready for some good laughs. He will say "Look, I got here by telling the truth. That's what the people wanted to hear. Now quit picking on me I was a POW for seven years". Mitt would crush the dems in a debate. That is why everryone wants him to lose.
 
If Romney can't look good against McCain how is he going to debate the dems without looking like a dork?
 
>Romney is clearly the best Republican
>debater and McCain is clearly
>the worst from the debates
>I've seen.

I agree!

PRO


Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
>Yet McCain will get the nomination,
>how do you like them
>apples.

Thanks to the leftist media. Go ahead and take 'pride' in seeing the media drop their DUTIES of being unbiased and being the most powerful force for 'deciding' who our 'leaders' our to be. The media is leaving nothing but road apples that you seem to enjoy eating. Be sure to wash it down with more of the liberal kool-aid!

PRO


Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Some of you aren't giving McCain the respect he deserves. We have had two back to back administrations Clinton & Bush where bipartisan politics wasn't practiced. At least with old McCain you have a guy that can cross the aisle and get something done. LBJ had that power and so did T.R. & Reagan. Carter was probably one of the smartest presidents we ever had and he failed when in office yet his legacy after the Whitehouse is something all former presidents should aspire to. Politics is the art of compromise and there isn't a single candidate left with his experience. We're in for some tough times in this country and we need some strong leadership from both parties to step up and get the job done. This isn't about making the other party look bad we've had 16 years of that, it's about the future of this country and we need a candidate that can do that and put the interests of this country and the people ahead of their personal agenda. This is the saddest bunch of candidates for this job in the history of this country but he's the only one that has the power, experience and the balls to get it done.

The president of the debate team never really amounted to to much over the test of time it was always the guy that rolled his sleeves up and got the job done that did the most. Right now we need the guy that will roll up his sleeves and get the job done more than any time in the last 20 years. We need a leader not a damn TV star, America needs a president! I'm not a huge McCain fan either but there is no substitute for experience especially in this election.
 
Problem with McCain is he doesn't just 'reach across the aisle', he jumps over there and STAYS there. If I vote for a conservative, I expect that conservative to have conservative views. McCain is not a conservative, does NOT have conservative views, and won't get this conservatives vote!

You lost credibility when you made reference to Carted being anything but an idiotic moron! He was a shining example of how NOT to govern. He showed that appeasement/compromise lead to WEAKNESS when it is done merely to 'get along' with the 'other' side. I want a President with principles and convictions, not one who wants the media to 'like' him/her. McCain is obsessed with being 'liked', and it shows he is anything BUT Reagan like.

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-05-08 AT 01:40PM (MST)[p]
so what I'm hearing from all of this is that the republican party is lost, or at least it no longer has the power to put forth a candidate that represents the party (you say mcain aint a republican), and if you say yeah but Romney's are man, you must agree that the GOP has lost its power because there's not a sane person in the world that would say Mitt can beat the dems at this point. . .

There is one more excuse, but I dont think you'll want to swallow it. . .

Mitt's a bunch of flip flop hot air. He's doomed . . . Heck hes closer to a democrat by far an Mcain, not ever close in my view.

If it's hillary and mcain i'll write in for mickey mouse. . .
 
I agree with pro 100%. I also understand that each canidate has his or her own set of problems. None of them are perfect. It comes down to which problems will hurt the presidency and the nation more. McCain is not the devil, but he is not a republican. The devil wears a dress. I have no clue how guys who love to hunt could be liberal democrats.
 
Pro I said Carter failed as a president mainly because he didn't feel he had to compromise and wasn't a legislator. But he most certainly didn't as a man and the programs he has supported since leaving office. I believe he's one of the most recognized faces on the planet and won a few humanitarian awards too (pretty decent for an idiot). Reagen is dead, at some point you'll have to come down to reality and accept it just like Rush. By the way Carters IQ vastly outdistanced Reagan and probably most modern time presidents. Ronnie wasn't the brightest guy but managed to get things done and many times had to be reminded of just what the topic was. I pointed out that we have had good legislators on both sides of the aisle and if you think the presidency today won't require somebody with the power to cross the aisle you had better wake up.

Hillary is despised by many in congress, Romney's on an ego trip and Obama really doesn't have the experience and Huck doesn't have the support. So you bet your bottom dollar I'll take the guy with the experience to be able to get things done because this president is gonna have to hit the ground being productive right off the bat! We can't afford to sit back a couple of years and let them learn the ropes.
 
This morning, on my way in to the office, I heard a radio report that one overnight poll is showing that Romney may have as much as a 7% lead in California. I hope that poll is correct.

'dude, I could be wrong, I was before (see Patriots thread!)but I personally expect that Romney would do quite well in debating the Dem candidates. I think he'd do better vs. Clinton that Obama, mainly because I think Obama is a better speaker than Clinton. I think Romney will do much better than McCain.
 
Carter was a failure because he tried to appease everyone, and he thought he could negotiate with evil people. I don't care what his IQ was/is, nor what his 'intentions' were/are, he was terrible for America. And before you laud him for his "humanitarian awards", remember that Yaser Arafat recieved the same liberal feel good "award". Nothing more than socialists giving awards to fellow socialists. He also has openly supported dictators like Chavez and Castro, the man is an bafoon! High IQ or not, nothing worse than a 'smart moron'.

I believe Romney has MORE experience than ANY of the others in the race, so thanks for 'endorsing' him. All are on 'ego trips' otherwise they wouldn't be running for the highest office in the land. Think about it!

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Peakfreak: Dude.... Think about it... If it wasn't for the "liberal democrats who love to hunt", you would not be able to. We wouldn't have the rights we have now.....

You need to be thankful that there are actually "liberal democrats" who hunt.
 
Peakfreak: Dude.... Think about it... If it wasn't for the "liberal democrats who love to hunt", you would not be able to. We wouldn't have the rights we have now.....
You need to be thankful that there are actually "liberal democrats" who hunt.
 
Pro you're really stretching there with that analogy comparing him to Arafat. If you read my first post instead of jumping to conclusions you may have picked up the intent. As to supporting dictators ALL presidents have been supporting dictators since before you were born and continue to do so today when it serves their purpose. You can believe what you want about Mitt but I don't see the republican hierarchy lining up behind him at this point (and that usually indicates that he may have stepped on a few toes). The powers to be are really starting to align themselves behind McCain for some reason. Remember I said I wasn't a McCain supporter but given the depth of field out there I have to lean his way. I don't think Mitt has quite the power base you'd like to imagine but to each their own. He has worldly experience in a lot of regards but I fail to see that base in the house and senate where it really matters for the job at hand. If Mitt wins the nomination I'll predict that he gets defeated. I'm not sure McCain will prevail either following GW but that's the way it is.
 
"As to supporting dictators ALL presidents have been supporting dictators since before you were born and continue to do so today when it serves their purpose."

What possible 'purpose' could Carter have in these times to 'support' enemies of America twenty plus years AFTER he stopped being president? Come on, that is lame!

What conservative Republicans are lining up behind McCain? I voted for Mitt today, and I hope I get to vote for him again in November. I WILL NOT vote for McCain in the general election!

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
It is quite possible, though it would have to come under legal scrunity from the highest level, that when all is said and done, mickey mouse may have enough write ins to become the first animated president.


Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. --Ronald Reagan
 
I can't think of any reason except the vast fossil fuels in South America and the surrounding countries. then there's the many goods we export from the countries surrounding Chavez' power base. Improved relations may mean more oil & product at some point in the future when we may need it. We supported the dictator in Iran and quite a few other countries for the same reason. Gee Pro I would have thought a deep thinker like you may have picked up on the economics of the situation. The middle east is a tinder box and if it goes up where do you get your oil Pro? Russia and a few of the other worlds suppliers aren't to enamored with us currently and that seems to be the general consensus around the world since old GW did such a bang up job! Seems the idiot and moron may have some vision after all :^)

If Mitt wins (and that's a big if) I'll vote for him too but I won't compromise my hunting for the likes of the other two animal rights activists. You do what you think is right. Pro in case you haven't noticed the true conservatives in the republican party really aren't calling the shots to much these days things may have changed a bit. If they were still wielding the power where's their candidate? No wonder Rush's ratings have dropped he's lost touch with reality (must have been all those drugs). CA
 
huntinaddict,

Thanks for your opinion. Doesn't change how I feel one bit. Maybe after the election in November McDonalds will come out with the McLib sandwich? It will be the same as the McCain sandwich just double sized.
 
I would rather we focus on our OWN oil resources rather than prop up someone who has nothing but contempt for America. Look what Chavez is trying to do with the banks.

I am not a big fan of Rush, but you are believing the 'main stream' media hype if you think he is losing ratings. Look at Fox as well, they are KILLING the others combined. The conservative 'movement' is not dead, dispite the efforts of the media.

TF as for my "wasting my gas", that's all good, I am trying to thaw out Utah, so I figure what the hell. Also, check the latest polls, it shows Mitt with a 8% lead in California and a slight lead in Georgia, looks like all the efforts of the left to get to liberal candidates may not be falling as planned. What was that about apples dude?

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Ah... when he said you were waisting your gas I figured he was refering to a gas tank with a sexy waistline. It sure would be nice to have ANWR on tap and we would not even have to pump a drop of crude before the likes of Chavez changed their two step. If the U.S. stopped importing oil from that clown it would send them back to the dark ages. Same thing can be said about Iran.


Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. --Ronald Reagan
 
I didn't say dead Pro but it's pretty obvious they aren't calling all the shots. Where is their candidate? The real one from within the party with the solidified power base? It clearly isn't Mitt. So where is he? Mitt most likely isn't going to overcome the R word to align the conservatives in the party. He's facing the same hurdle Kennedy faced with the R word? But then again it's a field filled with first's so who knows! Maybe we have moved past all this as a country and for the good of us all it's way past due.
 
When Reagan got in many thought he didn't have a snowballs chance... Mitt is no Reagan in my opinion but who knows..it's never over 'till it's over... either way one thing can be sure nobody knows which way this thing will go...


Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. --Ronald Reagan
 
How true 1911, this is one of the closest races we have had in years, we have and old war horse (MCCain), a show horse (Romney), a dark horse (Obama) and a team of asses (Hillary & Bill).
 
>How true 1911, this is one
>of the closest races we
>have had in years, we
>have and old war horse
>(MCCain), a show horse (Romney),
>a dark horse (Obama) and
>a team of asses (Hillary
>& Bill).

Now that I agree with!

PRO


Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
>Peakfreak: Dude.... Think about it... If
>it wasn't for the "liberal
>democrats who love to hunt",
>you would not be able
>to. We wouldn't have the
>rights we have now.....
>You need to be thankful that
>there are actually "liberal democrats"
>who hunt.


Are you kidding me? If the Liberals had there way you would be hunting with a rock. Actually probably not hunting at all, just out taking pistures of wolves. The LIBERAL POLOTICIANS have never been a friend to gun owners or hunters. Other than the fact that they do a good job of protecting our public lands.....Oh yeah, but they dont want you to hunt the animals on that land. I know for a fact that there are so called "liberals" who like to hunt and fish, but the poloticions that you support on election day want nothing more than to take your guns and hunting away. Same goes for the far right conservatives, we'll have our guns.....just wont be able to hunt unless you can afford a high fence outfitt. I'll take my chances and at least be able to defend myself, my family, and my little chunk of mother earth.
 
All I know is if Dude is happy about McCain then I want Romney...

"One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
 
PRO said:
it shows Mitt with a 8% lead in California and a slight lead in Georgia, looks like all the efforts of the left to get to liberal candidates may not be falling as planned.



Hey PRO, even if Nitt wins california, he wont get the nod from the party. . . just watch. no way they would put them up against the dems, that would be political suicide and the end of the republican party for sure. . .
 
McCain USED TO BE a Patriot.

No arguement about his service record.

Problem is, he has been a DC politico for 30 years and no longer has the same "heart" the he had as a Vietnam era Navy pilot.

Now he is simply just another, anti gun, DC dirtbag.
 
I don't know. It might just be me, but I think McCain's arms are too short to be president.

Plus I almost puked when he said Hillary would make a good president.

Eel
 
Finally a pretty good political debate here on Monster Muleys. Good points on both sides. What it boils down to is this country is so weary of the last 7 years that all of the candidates are looking good at this point. I'm not real high (as opposed to popular belief) on Hillary. Way too much insider beltway baggage for me. Obama just might be the young John Kennedy we need right now ? but who really knows. McCain is just plain too old to take on this kind of pressure ? but if he picks a good VP he might be the right choice. One thing for damn sure this country will win regardless who takes the oath of office in January. BOBCATBESS ? don't worry about picking the lesser of two evils, I really think we can't loose this time. It's been many years since we have had a field of really good candidates!

RUS
 
"Hey PRO, even if Nitt wins california, he wont get the nod from the party. . . just watch. no way they would put them up against the dems, that would be political suicide and the end of the republican party for sure. . ."

I couldn't disagree more, putting McCain up as the nominee would be a HUGE step backward and I can't see how putting a liberal RINO is 'good' for the party.

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Eel, I feel your pain ... I keep going back to who would you like to see on Mt.Rushmore? Kinda looking like Mitt is our only choice ... or!!!!! maybe a big giant nipple.

RUS
 
This election is just like watching a race I didn't have any money on until now. since you and Rush both hate McCain I have somebody to root for. GO McCAIN!! he's going to get the nomination anyway but now it's more fun. thanks
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-05-08 AT 09:35PM (MST)[p]Romney made Mcain look like a fool in the presidential debates last week. Romney is the only one who is qualified to pull this economy out of a economic tailspin.I just can't understand why the republican party is supporting this nut(Mcain).His Immigration policy is nothing short of pathetic.I'm also disgusted with these celebrity endorsements like opera and Gov Arnold.What a joke!

Mike
 
With all the national,state,county and local employees unions plus the NEA able to vote themselves pay raises it's going to be tough for conservatives.The hispanics definately won't vote for Repubs and their plan for deporting 12 million of them.Bush has set the party back 20 years with his spending at will.
 
Nickman I think you've misjudged McCain, he stood down at the request of the party and GW. That old horse has a lot of kick in him and the clout to get things done in congress. Huck isn't dead by a long shot and may prove to be the most valuable horse in the race. McCains no fool and will surround himself with great people just like Reagan and he has the respect of his collegues in the house and the senate. Time will tell but it's going to get interesting that's for sure.
 
Who are the conservatives? After tonight I sure don't think it's the republicans any more. This election will for sure be about CHANGE. Change coming out of your pocket and going down the government drain. I feel we are in a no win situation. It's like we are in the Titanic and we just hit the iceburg. Where's the life boat?
 
I consider myself moderate to conservative in my views, McCain is actually a dream come true for me. Over the course of my voting years, I've mostly voted Democrat. I am a registred Democrat. Today I voted for Hillary Clinton. The thought of having her in office makes me sick, but I think McCain has a much better shot of beating her than Obama. Now I haven't been voting jackass because my views are so close to the platform, I just really have not been able to stomach many of the dinks the GOP throws up, and character is a very important issue for me. GW for instance is a straight-up lying, self serving, crook - that is when he is not being an actual idiot. Don't get me wrong, I've got zero character issues with Romney or Huckabee, it is refreshing for a change. I just think McCain would do a better job. Yeah I voted for both Gore and Kerry. Not exacty overflowing with charisma, but both good men, and I never once lost sleep worrying that my guns would be taken away, piled up, and burned (NRA propoganda). I've had political discussioins on MM before, I'm aware that my views will cast me just this side of being a commie in many eyes around here, that's OK - it would certainly be easier to come onto a hunting website, don my Charlton Heston mask and proclaim that everyone to the left of limbaugh is an ex-patriot, pot-smokin', wolf-lovin', gun-bannin', tree-huggin' liberal. It is a pretty easy way to get this group of sheep all riled up, everyone bahhhing in unison.

?USED TO BE A PATRIOT??? Come on!
 
,
> I never once lost
>sleep worrying that my guns
>would be taken away, piled
>up, and burned (NRA propoganda).

You probably dont worry because unlike yourself, The NRA supports you and always will. If it was'nt for them you'd be singing a different tune. I know alot of guys with your "it'll never happen" attitude, wont start whinning till you get to the gun store and they say "we cant sell those anymore". It already has happened, and is continuing to happen. If your not worried about that then you need to get a clue and quit spewin your left wing liberal hippie crap!
 
Steelie......If McCain does it for you, that's fine.

When I look at his record, the things he has authored and supported, the things he ignores, and his gun issue reversals, I don't see him in the same light as you do.

I don't think he will be good for America....as President. His attitude regarding foriegn intervention, as it now exists, is unacceptable to me and obviously many others. His immigration policy is so bad that he barely carried his home state.

For you he is "a dream come true", for me he is a "nightmare".

At one time, I was his biggest fan. Hell, we were in the Navy together, on the same ship (along with 5,263 other guys) and, as I said before, what he survived was heroic....I doubt I would have made it. But he ain't the same guy now, and he ain't my choice.
 
I don't think McCain is anyones dream come true but he doesn't deserve the bad rap he's been getting either. I'd vote for him except for his stand on Roe V Wade and Iraq, for that he can take a leap but I still don't think he's a bad guy I just don't agree with him. when most of you agree with 90% of what he stands for how can he be as bad as fat butt Rush says? as the old saying goes "Democrats fall in love, republicans fall in line" you know you will so give the guy a break he's as good as got the nomination.
 
Well.....if that is the best the GOP can do, I'll cross over to the dark side and vote for Obama........that don't sound right...he makes more sense everyday.
 

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