bugling

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jigger

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went out bugling lastnight from
10:00pm to 12:30pm didn't hear
a thing. you guys think it's still
to early? and do you think it would
chase out the elk from the area?
 
I got this form another fourm. (This is in WYO)
Last week--the week of August 13th, I heard from some hunters near Cody that they were already seeing bulls completely rubbed off and beginning to wallow. I was a bit skeptical as I had just returned from Banff ( on the 12th)and Jasper, Canada, and the bulls there are showing no signs of even beginning to shed their velvet. Also, last year I watched a big 350+ class bull rub off on August 30th and collected his velvet the next day.

I now believe them completely and will add my own observations. Tuesday night of this week, I watched three different bunches of elk in the Big Horns, all of 25 or fewer animals and each with one mature bull--completely rubbed off and with dark antlers, which tells me they have already been wallowing. I was also surprised to see them in small bunches already. The nursury herds are often still intact even when the season starts around here.

Then, last night--Thursday, August 19th--I watched a very large bull herd 25 cows in a large park. He was bugling furiously and working to cut out another raggy bull. He even went after what I perceived to be a male calf, trying to drive him away from the cows. He was much more agressive than any pre-rut behavior I have seen in the past. If I hadn't kown the date, I would have sworn it was September 15th. Then, to conclude my evening, I watched a 330-350 class bull work a wallow over. He thrashed the grass, throwing large clumps in all directions before rolling around in the mud and then bolting in circles like a fawn playing games. Then he'd dart back into the wallow and work it some more, only to buck away like a stung horse and then return and thrash the ground and wallow some more. I'l tell you, it sure got my pulse rate up and put a smile on my face.

I have watched 1000's of elk over the years in the exact same location I was last night and have never seen such early rutting behavior. We have had a cool summer here in Wyoming and it appears that may be effecting the timing of the rut this year.

I thought I'd offer my observations for what they're worth. Is anyone else seeing such behavior yet?


FEAR NOT FOR I AM WITH YOU! Walk soft and carry a 300 RUM,
 
Here in New Mexico Gila Area, I called in a 280 Class bull yesterday from 1/2 mile away called him to ten yards@ 2:30 P.M. We where on A.T.V. s planting winter wheat on a ranch. the bull just stood and stared at us never bugled on his approach. scared the crap out of the guy that was with me. I told him to stay still or he would have his way with you!!!I was shooting him over and over at that range with my air Bow!!!! He wanted a cow real BAD!!!!!Hope he is that way on the opener! have spoke to a few guides from here and they are seeing some early signs as well. Some bugling from smaller bulls I do think that this is going to be a great start because of the colder weather and rain. Last year it didn't make any differance who you knew, they did not care!!

Just for your record: Hoochie Mama and Bite me cow calls did it.
 
Why are you bugling before the hunt??? Are we trying to make the elk bugle shy? I dont undertstand why all these guys go out and cow talk and bugle before the hunt evenstarts ... It doesn't make sense!
 
Yeah, sounds like calling coyotes in and then missing. They go from dropout to Phd in one simple lesson.

JB
 
I was out this weekend in N AZ. The Bigger bulls have rubbed the antlers clean from what I saw. The smaller bulls are working on it, I picked up alot of velvet off of trees. I watched a bull bugle in the spotting scope from a long ways off but didnt hear him, he was in a group of cows. They talk all the time but here the bugles wont really ring in till September sometime.
Bugler. Anyone got a 5bs Early tag?
 
I was bugling in the small bull I had no interest in him. We do not consider a bull unless it is 300 or better. But it was fun and on a private ranch. I would not even consider playing with them off the ranch, it would mess the other hunters up. I agree with the coyote Statement, that is very true! But on the other side maybe he will forget me when he turns 400"!!!!!
 

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