"Tipping point"

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I know, just more conspiracy to take your money, but interesting information no less. . . .



"Tipping point" on horizon for Greenland ice
Mon Feb 4, 2008 5:27pm EST

By Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent

OSLO (Reuters) - Global warming this century could trigger a runaway thaw of Greenland's ice sheet and other abrupt shifts such as a dieback of the Amazon rainforest, scientists said on Monday.

They urged governments to be more aware of "tipping points" in nature, tiny shifts that can bring big and almost always damaging changes such as a melt of Arctic summer sea ice or a collapse of the Indian monsoon.

"Society may be lulled into a false sense of security by smooth projections of global change," the scientists at British, German and U.S. institutes wrote in a report saying there were many little-understood thresholds in nature.

"The greatest and clearest threat is to the Arctic with summer sea ice loss likely to occur long before, and potentially contribute to, Greenland ice sheet melt," they wrote in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"Tipping elements in the tropics, the boreal zone, and west Antarctica are surrounded by large uncertainty," they wrote, pointing to more potential abrupt shifts than seen in a 2007 report by the U.N. Climate Panel.

A projected drying of the Amazon basin, linked both to logging and to global warming, could set off a dieback of the rainforest.

"Many of these tipping points could be closer than we thought," lead author Timothy Lenton, of the University of East Anglia in England, told Reuters of the study.

Other sudden changes linked to climate change, stoked by human use of fossil fuels, included a dieback of northern pine forests, or a stronger warming of the Pacific under El Nino weather events that can disrupt weather worldwide, they wrote.

A possible greening of parts of the Sahel and the Sahara, if monsoon rains in West Africa were disrupted, was one of the few positive abrupt shifts identified by the scientists.

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Even a moderate warming could set off a thaw of Greenland's ice sheet that could then vanish in 300 years -- raising sea levels by 6 meters (20 ft), or 2 meters a century and threatening coasts, Pacific islands and cities from Bangkok to Buenos Aires.

The U.N. Climate Panel foresees a rise in world sea levels ranging up to about 80 cms this century and reckons that a thaw of Greenland would take hundreds of years longer.

The new study said a disappearance of Arctic sea ice in summertime could happen in coming decades -- earlier than projected by the U.N. panel. That could stoke further global warming as dark water soaks up more heat than ice and snow.

The report also identified risks such as damage to northern pine forests -- widely exploited by the pulp industry -- because of factors such as more frequent fires and vulnerability to pests in warmer, drier conditions.

But it played down some other fears, such as of a runaway melt of Siberian permafrost, releasing stores of methane which is a powerful greenhouse gas.

And it said a shutdown of the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic Ocean that brings warm water north to Europe "appears to be a less immediate threat".

-- For Reuters latest environment blogs click on:

blogs.reuters.com/environment/

(Editing by Janet Lawrence)
 
Okay Chicken Little, we got it...the sky is indeed falling.


Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. --Ronald Reagan
 
dont kill the messenger, deal with the message.

I'm only a senior scientist because they did not know what else to call me. . . LOL ;-)

Good luck dcup. . .
 
I am soooooo sick of debunking the doom and gloom on this board it is pathetic.

Listen up all earth first types, hippies, pot heads and other tree hugging nuts. Of all the bad CO2 that is spewed into the atmosphere..............ALL OF IT...........man's portion is less than 3.5%. Less than 3.5%. Less than 3.5%. Google it what ever you want but its fact. Our little 3.5% dont make a hiil of beans on altering the planet's atmosphere my friends. So knock it off and take your scocialist agenda elswhere.

Human activites contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

Water vapor overwhelms
all other natural and man-made
greenhouse contributions.


Water vapor, the most significant greenhouse gas, comes from natural sources and is responsible for roughly 95% of the greenhouse effect (4). Among climatologists this is common knowledge but among special interests, certain governmental groups, and news reporters this fact is under-emphasized or just ignored altogether.

Conceding that it might be "a little misleading" to leave water vapor out, they nonetheless defend the practice by stating that it is "customary" to do so!

Look T and the rest of you earth is ending types. Ask any of the Global warming scientist nuts and they will tell you, even if we completely shut down all human life the palnet would still continue on its course of warming, then cooling, then warming, then cooling. Geez how many times do we have to say it on this board T!!!!!



?Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.?
---Theodore Roosevelt,
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-05-08 AT 02:17PM (MST)[p]Thanks climate PhD 202 - BTW, are you Christian? . . . .
 
I swear T you are by far the funniest guy on this site. Crack my a$% up. I have tears in my eyes I am laughing so hard. I swear.

You know I just might have to change my screen name to PhD202.

LMAO.............:7




?Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.?
---Theodore Roosevelt,
 
202,

I keep trying to warn you, using common sense and facts is only going to confuse, frustrate and anger many of the imports.
 
gb22.......trouble maker! Why would you EVER use the term "common sense" on this site.

During the hunting seasons, common sense is prevalent on here, but for most any other topic.....you might as well be having a discussion with Mrs. Smiths' 3rd grade class.

It is cheap entertainment though, ain't it?
 

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