drop camp
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dutch
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kool!
It depends on the number of hunters, but we usually have 2 tents, with all the necessary stuff; incluing cots, lamps, stoves, propane stoves ect... in fairly productive areas. We save the hotspots for guided hunts. This particular camp had elk all around it, but the hunters wussed out after the first day of the hunt, and demanded we come haul them out. Well we did... and they actually had the audacity to ask for their money back! I dont think so bud.
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Targa1
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"Oldoregon"
Which state do these drop camps tend to be? Or should I take the hint from the user name? Thanks
Which state do these drop camps tend to be? Or should I take the hint from the user name? Thanks
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Targa1
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Great! Thanks for the information.
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MrBaitnFish
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Is that the tent you cut your finger in?
cmiddleton
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our hunting party we have a old korean war paracute tent to sleep in a army mess tent for cooking and meals and two dome tents for storage. there are usually 4 of us there we figure if we pitch enough tents we will scare off all other hunters. they think they are still in the city limits.
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IDkTm
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OO, I sent you a PM. What outfitter are you working for?
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Hornseeker
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I was camp cook for a drop camp in Montana a few years ago. It was an awesome set up. We had a huge "mess" tent that had a stove, table, chairs and my sleeping quarters in the back. Then a bunk tent for the dudes, about like the one you showed, then "bath" tent, it was an 8X10 Wall tent with a stove we put a big pot of water on. You'd sit in a chair and poor water on yourself, it ended up like a sauna cause the tent got so hot when you stoked the stove up. It was sweet.
Nice tent pic OO.
Nice tent pic OO.
I have a question for those of you that like to use drop camps. Do you thihk it is necessary to harvest an animal in order to make it an enjoyable experience, or would you be happy having a great time with friends and family, and seeing some beautifull country? We had a party of guys from central oregon call us on the satelite phone after the first day of the hunt and demand us to come pick them up. We had to drop everything and come pick them up after ONLY ONE FREAKING DAY OF HUNTING! Some people I just dont understand. Thay paid 1500 dollars for us to haul them in, and they wussed out after 1 day of huhnting. Would you ever do anything like this, or do you believe that hunting is just as enjoyable wether you are seeing elk or not. There was one old man in that group who was having the time of his life, and was pissed that his buddies were hauling him out... I wish all the guys we hauled in were more like that guy! And then, they had the audacity to give us only $20 dallars tip for 3 guys. Needless to say we were pretty pissed.
later...
later...
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Hornseeker
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YOu couldn't have expected a big tip from some guys quiting after the 1st day of a hunt!
On that drop camp I cooked on, I was there for these guys for 10 days, up way before them getting tents warmed up, breakfast ready, coffee ready. At the end, the son gave me a $50 tip, the dad......Zippo, Zero, Zilch. It was fun though. They started getting a little beligerent with me at one point, the son in particular. At one point we were playing cards and he knocks over his beer (year, they had beer and whiskey in camp, the dad actually was about to pay me to hike out about half way through and go get him more whiskey, but didn't want to fork out the Ben Franklin I was asking for!!) on the table, then sits there and starts to take a dip. I said wipe that beer up man, he says I'll do it in a minute, and I lost it and basically told him if he didn't put the can down and wipe the beer up NOW then his face was going to wipe it up. He was young and cocky, but he recognized that this wasn't a time to screw around. We got along a lot better after that!
To make this story longer....the first morning the kid wasn't there yet and the dad took off by himself. They are bowhunting. So about 2:30 PM this guy comes down the trail and he sees me and starts cussing and saying "there ain't no F'n elk in the F'n place, what a bunch of F'n bs and on and on and on he goes. Finally I calm him down and start talking to him. The first thing he does is pull his boots off and shows me these huge nasty blisters!! He walked 6 miles round trip on a really nice trail that is relatvely flat on a ridge!! He'd never worn the boots before, and frankly, I dont think he ever walked on a trail before either!
Then I ask him what he did, how he hunted. Well, he tells me he blew his bugle and cow call into every canyon and never heard a thing. I asked him to blow it for me......oh chit, I almost busted up laughing. I told him right then and there to put it away cause it wasn't going to help. Thats when he started going off on the boot company and the bugle makeer!! It was classic. Finally, he broke out these incense deals that you burn and they are supposed to attract the biggest bulls on the hill!!!
IT was unreal.
OO...I am at the stage that IF I hired an outfitter, it would be to put me in a comfortable camp where there was a good elk pop and some good bulls. If I paid $1500 and busted my ass for several days and didn't see a thing I'd be pissed and discouraged, but still woudn't want out till the end, as yes, I do value the time spent in the mountains and also know that you will never harvest an elk while sitting at home, you gotta be out there!
On that drop camp I cooked on, I was there for these guys for 10 days, up way before them getting tents warmed up, breakfast ready, coffee ready. At the end, the son gave me a $50 tip, the dad......Zippo, Zero, Zilch. It was fun though. They started getting a little beligerent with me at one point, the son in particular. At one point we were playing cards and he knocks over his beer (year, they had beer and whiskey in camp, the dad actually was about to pay me to hike out about half way through and go get him more whiskey, but didn't want to fork out the Ben Franklin I was asking for!!) on the table, then sits there and starts to take a dip. I said wipe that beer up man, he says I'll do it in a minute, and I lost it and basically told him if he didn't put the can down and wipe the beer up NOW then his face was going to wipe it up. He was young and cocky, but he recognized that this wasn't a time to screw around. We got along a lot better after that!
To make this story longer....the first morning the kid wasn't there yet and the dad took off by himself. They are bowhunting. So about 2:30 PM this guy comes down the trail and he sees me and starts cussing and saying "there ain't no F'n elk in the F'n place, what a bunch of F'n bs and on and on and on he goes. Finally I calm him down and start talking to him. The first thing he does is pull his boots off and shows me these huge nasty blisters!! He walked 6 miles round trip on a really nice trail that is relatvely flat on a ridge!! He'd never worn the boots before, and frankly, I dont think he ever walked on a trail before either!
Then I ask him what he did, how he hunted. Well, he tells me he blew his bugle and cow call into every canyon and never heard a thing. I asked him to blow it for me......oh chit, I almost busted up laughing. I told him right then and there to put it away cause it wasn't going to help. Thats when he started going off on the boot company and the bugle makeer!! It was classic. Finally, he broke out these incense deals that you burn and they are supposed to attract the biggest bulls on the hill!!!
IT was unreal.
OO...I am at the stage that IF I hired an outfitter, it would be to put me in a comfortable camp where there was a good elk pop and some good bulls. If I paid $1500 and busted my ass for several days and didn't see a thing I'd be pissed and discouraged, but still woudn't want out till the end, as yes, I do value the time spent in the mountains and also know that you will never harvest an elk while sitting at home, you gotta be out there!
I agree! At times it is really hard to deal with some of these city slicker and there BS! I mean I wouldn't mind it one bit if they didn't act like they were the best elk hunters in the world. I hate it when people ask how to hunt the elk, and we give them a few pointers, and laugh and say "they ain't gonna work that hard". At times I am tempted to reply with "then you aint gonna get an elk." It dont matter what unit you are in, or in what state, you have to work hard to kill an elk. Don't expect to kill an elk while sitting around in camp all day! Sheesh...
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Colville
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It's a no win deal OO. Most guy's aren't paying for a drop for the "transportation". Getting guys in a tent someplace they coulnd't get to before in a beautiful place is good, but not what they're expecting. They expect to see game. They are already proficient at NOT finding game on their own, they don't need to pay to not find game.
Now that being said. Lazy, out of shape, no hunt skill retards won't shoot game if you drive them to the feed station on wintering grounds. Everything else being equal, and it never is; if you have capable and willing hunters they've paid to be put in "good country" and should expect something slightly more than a good camp site. Isn't that the point, you guys are the pros who know where the game is? So folks expect you can/will put them in a good area, no one controls game but at the end of the day game is the point. If it weren't they wouldn't be called hunting drop camps, they'd be "camping trips" or back country adventures...
No doubt you guys do an excellent job and there's rotten stories on both sides of the ledger outfitter & client. You should get fit, capable, 100% effort and open minded clients and clients should get clean, well put together camp in an area with game If they bust their ass. We all know that the drop campers get the leftovers to begin with so I think they've alread got a jaundiced eye when they hit the trail.
Now that being said. Lazy, out of shape, no hunt skill retards won't shoot game if you drive them to the feed station on wintering grounds. Everything else being equal, and it never is; if you have capable and willing hunters they've paid to be put in "good country" and should expect something slightly more than a good camp site. Isn't that the point, you guys are the pros who know where the game is? So folks expect you can/will put them in a good area, no one controls game but at the end of the day game is the point. If it weren't they wouldn't be called hunting drop camps, they'd be "camping trips" or back country adventures...
No doubt you guys do an excellent job and there's rotten stories on both sides of the ledger outfitter & client. You should get fit, capable, 100% effort and open minded clients and clients should get clean, well put together camp in an area with game If they bust their ass. We all know that the drop campers get the leftovers to begin with so I think they've alread got a jaundiced eye when they hit the trail.
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bobcatbess
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OH-OH
THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU STUFF THE 20.00 BILL BACK IN THEIR FACE!!!
YOU BETTER HAVE MORE PATIENCE THAN I'VE GOT IF YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THESE JOKERS THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!
REMEMBER:JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU'VE SEEN IT ALL,NO,YOU'RE JUST SEEING THE BEGINNING!!!
WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR A 'GUARANTEED' OPENING DAY BULL HUNT???
HOW MUCH WHISKEY DO YOU PACK IN FOR THEM???
THE ONLY bobcat SUGGESTING MAYBE PACKING MORE BOOZE IN FOR THEM,THAT WAY THEY MIGHT STAY LONGER,LOL!!!
THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU STUFF THE 20.00 BILL BACK IN THEIR FACE!!!
YOU BETTER HAVE MORE PATIENCE THAN I'VE GOT IF YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THESE JOKERS THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!
REMEMBER:JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU'VE SEEN IT ALL,NO,YOU'RE JUST SEEING THE BEGINNING!!!
WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR A 'GUARANTEED' OPENING DAY BULL HUNT???
HOW MUCH WHISKEY DO YOU PACK IN FOR THEM???
THE ONLY bobcat SUGGESTING MAYBE PACKING MORE BOOZE IN FOR THEM,THAT WAY THEY MIGHT STAY LONGER,LOL!!!
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Hornseeker
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hehehe, right on Bobcatbess!
Couple of tips for ya. Ya might try a couple rattlers on the slobs like that. Just slip the rattlers in under the tent door and if they don't leave by one day. Use ex-lax in the cake or brownies. Make sure and hide the T.P> Bout time they head for the head. Scream ya seen a couple bulls up on the hill and take em for a hike. Dog Jerky works well just tell em u couldn't afford real jerky? Cat food rather then tuna. It is cheap and make sure they know what they are eating. And my favorite is a little PR work. Public Relations. Make a call to their wives and tell the wives that the guys are doing fine. And ask her if the woman they brought to camp was his sister??
Now on the other hand if they are great guys and like your camp like I do. And ya want to keep em around. Well ya might try hot and cold running Maids. A wet nurse or two. Ya know to suckle on and nurture u back to good health after some of the night cap u offer. Who cares if we kill elk after all they don't like to be shot. I like your camp! Hats off to ya for taking them out after one day. I think my horse would have got lost that day. it is a fine camp atta boy ya gets ya a chewy bone.
Rut
Now on the other hand if they are great guys and like your camp like I do. And ya want to keep em around. Well ya might try hot and cold running Maids. A wet nurse or two. Ya know to suckle on and nurture u back to good health after some of the night cap u offer. Who cares if we kill elk after all they don't like to be shot. I like your camp! Hats off to ya for taking them out after one day. I think my horse would have got lost that day. it is a fine camp atta boy ya gets ya a chewy bone.
Rut
