The first picture is of my dad and a friend of his the two kids are my son and daughter. The picture with two cows are of my nephew tyler this is his first year hunting he got two cow elk one was at 50 yards the other 75 yards all on mt. Blanca in unit 82. My brother also got his elk too. We ran into a nice herd of 30 drove as close as we could and my nephew tyler got out and shot his and then my brother Anthony tyler dad got his. The buck is what I got on the last day of the third deer season he was only 65 yards from the road.
It is not what you use, but where you hit em.