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This bull scored 424
The bull in the next pic. neted 370
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LAST EDITED ON May-11-05 AT 01:52PM (MST)[p]Check out Eastmans from a few years ago both this bull and the other one he posted were on the cover a year a part. I think the hunter's name is Brandon IIRC... This bull is all of what he claims... The thirds are friggn huge like 28" or something rediculus and the mains are really loooong like 60" or something...

Thanks for posting those pics... Both bulls are monsters for sure!
 
Awesome bull, thanks for posting the pic's. Hmm, I wonder why some people don't post their pics??? Could it be because some people have to rip the thread instead of giving compliments?

Again, great bull & thanks for posting today's pics! It's nice to see some new pictures around this time of year.
 
That bull is what dreams are made of.
I can only imagine what he, as a hunter felt like at that moment.
To have all the sacrifices and hard work pay off in the end.

Congratulations to him.
We need more like him in the field.

Definite wallhanger to say the least.

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
 
Hey nbjbhunterman, my tape is correct
and the reason I know this is because I own the
ranch that these bulls were harvested on. And was
able to put a tape on them first hand, not to mention
I have sheds to them to. My score was 2inches off from
the official B&C score. I know my elk.
 
If I remember correctly from a few years ago, the bull netted 410-411? The 3rd were both over 30". I believe at the time it was thought to be the state record non-typical, not sure if it ended up there or not. It is definitely well over 400"...
 
Don't we have enough guys around here like jnbjnbnnbjnb? Shoot something that needs a tape and I'm sure he'll send it over!

Those are sweet bulls and I also remember reading the stories. Both archery bulls too if I remember right.
 
Besides the thirds and royals being ridiculous, look at the mass of the main beam. They look like a baseball bat.

Awesome bull, wish he was on my wall.

Ed
 
This is one of the coolest racks I've seen, picture dosen't do it much justice. Its been on the eastmans elk tour. I wonder how much they paid him to use it. I've also seen it at cabelas in Nebraska.
 
That bull was on tour in Livingston, Montana and was incredibly impressive. Now that we know bearpaws credentials on scoring, lets have nbjbhunterman's credentials on scoring. The comment about sending him bearpaws tape seems kind of arrogant and nbjbhunterman might need something to drink to wash that foot down. I want to see the shed pics bearpaw.
 
Thats a great bull!!!!!



NBJ,

What, no comment????? You must be another one of those professional cyber scorers. Like I said on another thread; you guys that set your screen resolution correctly, and have a 17" monitor have it all figured out!!!!!!!

The only bobcat wondering why some people can't just say: congrats!!!, nice bull, good job!!!!!..................
 
The guy in the Photo is Brendan Burns, not sure what its rank in the books is these days but I believe it is still in the top 5 bulls. The only bull bigger in Montana is Chuck Adams world record, and possibly his new world record. I believe that Brendans bull ended up officialy 409 and some change. It was killed in the Bear Paws.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-15-05 AT 01:41PM (MST)[p]Brendans bull scores 410 3/8 B&C non-typical. It ranks number 5 in Montana. Not sure of world rank. Chuck's 2000 bull (same year Brendan took his, rumor has it within hours of Chuck's bull) scores 411 3/8 B&C typical. It ranks number one in Montana and world P&Y. Chuck has since taken another Montana bull in the 400 inch class, typical I believe, but I am unsure of the score. Anyone know? I have a mag article, but can't locate it. Awesome bulls in anyones book. mtmuley
 
Okay, I think I've got the photo to work. The sheds on the left are mine and weigh 29 pounds, G3's are over 19" and G4's are over 24". The sheds from two years later, on the right, make mine look tiny when placed side by side. I belive Brendan said the horns with the skull cap from the bull when taken weighed 54 pounds.

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4X4muley
How was your shed season? I talked to a
local and he said he saw 15 bulls the first of April
at place you look for horns. He said they were there
almost every day for a couple weeks.
 
I only went out twice so far. I found the 7pt side from a 6x7 bull that you and your brother law apparently passed up this past fall. The day I found the shed it was blizzarding and there were a few tracks from a couple more bulls, but as far as the 15 that were supposedly hanging out in the area, they must have left just prior to dropping. I went back out the next weekend and never fund a horn or cut a track. The landowners rode the whole field and never found a horn either. I emailed a picture of it to Todd if you want to see it.

That looks like a pretty decent muley set you found, how wide do you think they are?

By the way, I have a picture of your elk and a set of sheds from him from a few years back that I can post or email you if you like. I placed a picture of them side by side, and I'm sure they're sheds from your bull. Also, I can send you a picture of the sheds from the "Ghost Bull", I don't know if you've ever seen them.
 
A Brian I havn't seen the ghost bulls sheds, just seen them on him. The 7x6 is a nice bull saw him quit a bit the last 2 weeks of the season he is a 340 class I think. Those muley sheds I found are about 25 wide and 25 tall, he would be a good scoring buck if he wasn't week in the fronts. I found another set really similar to him, I will post. Have you seen pics. of the 190 buck taken this year off the ranch. He ended up scoring in the 180s because of some broken points. I have really been seeing some nice bucks the last couple of years. I will try to post a pic of him.
 
Clint,
Do you have another email account or just the one here? If so, let me know where you would like some photos sent to.

The 7x6 I figured scored right around 340 as well. It seems the 7pt side scored around 149".

Todd told me about the 190 class buck that was shot on your place, but I never saw the pictures. If you have some digital photos of the buck, email them to me @ [email protected]. I geuss resticting the access and harvest is a testiment to what can happen when the little bucks are allowed to grow up. The photo's of the dead bucks you found look nicer than what the average buck use to be on your place just even a few years ago.
 
Brian,
I posted the pic of the buck on the muley page. My email address is [email protected] you can send pics to that address. I have some other pics I can send you to of the bucks taken last year if you would like.
 
What is wrong with you people!!!!!!!!!!! Over 400 my toe! You guys have no idea on how to score a bull. I am not trying to stir the pot here but I thought there would be more people who really knew antlers when they saw them!!!

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NBJB
 
NBJB,

The bull in the picture has been officially scored and entered into the record books. You can see the official score on the Montana F&G site:
http://fwp.state.mt.us/hunting/records/display.aspx?species=ElkNon&table=BC

Brendan's bull is the 5th one down, listed at 410 3/8".

The bull was on the RMEF's great elk tour a while ago, and I can attest to the fact that it is definitely a 400+ bull. It was also featured in a hunting magazine shortly after it was shot.

Maybe Clint can post another picture of the bull to give you a better angle? There's no point arguing the proven and official score of this bull though...

Corey
 
NBJB:

Have you noticed this is entered as a non-typical? Maybe the reason it has a greater score than what you think it should. I know as an official measurer, I'm leary of judging animals from a photo, as you don't get to see everything from one angle. However, this one looks to be the real McCoy to me. JMO

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
NBJB,
No offense but you need to go out and get a clue out of the clue box. I have a clue box if you need one. Exactly how do you score your elk???????? Do you need glasses? I hate to argue with an idiot but sometimes you have to.
 
I have some other angles on the Burns bull, but can't find them right now. Would another picture clear up what you think he would measure, or will you admit that is in fact the size posted according to many here that are familiar with the bull? It seems that you miscalculated the bull. Agree???

Here is another bull for you to score. Let's see how you do for a gross score.

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NBJB,
I guess you don't get to get out and see
many bulls with this size of antler growth so
I can understand how you wouldn't know how to score
one correctly.
 
mtmiller,

I am going to shut up because I know who you are and have read your articles in magazines. I know the score of this Elk because I read your article and live by what you said in it with this Elk. I am sorry if I have offended you and I will shut up. Sorry if I pissed you off!

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NBJB
 
mtmiller,
I am going to shut up because I know who you are and have read your articles in magazines. I know the score of this Elk because I read your article and live by what you said in it with this Elk. I am sorry if I have offended you and I will shut up. Sorry if I pissed you off!



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NBJB
 
NBJB, I guess you are poking fun at me. I can live with that. I am just curious why you continue to second guess this topic. It is a great bull and obviously scores what was mentioned by several folks.

As RDog mentioned, I wouldn't know a 400" bull if it ran me over, but I do know the bull posted is a brute and the score is accurate.
 
mtmiller,

I know who you are and when the heck did you start writing hunting articles? Please forward so I can read through them.

Nemont
 
I don't claim to know how to score anything but my best guess on the mystery bull would be:
Non-typical
Gross Score 389 Boone and Crockett inches minimum

I would like to point out that it was a wild GUESS!
 
LAST EDITED ON May-19-05 AT 06:39PM (MST)[p]Jeff, I guess you didn't realize I am the Managing Editor for Gopher Shooters Unlimited. I will try to get you a copy of some back issues, but most often they sell out, so rarely are there any available.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-19-05 AT 10:05PM (MST)[p]>LAST EDITED ON May-19-05
>AT 06:39?PM (MST)

>
>Jeff, I guess you didn't realize
>I am the Managing Editor
>for Gopher Shooters Unlimited.
>I will try to get
>you a copy of some
>back issues, but most often
>they sell out, so rarely
>are there any available.


Craig,

Gopher Shooters Unlimited, wow. It always amazes me that on this board how many people can't properly field judge a trophy gopher. An inch in height is a lot on gopher. I see people saying they have 10 in gopher and it is obvious that it is only a 9 inch gopher. Of course I only have a 5 inch gopher so I am jealous.

Anyway I know who you are and I am going to quit questioning you on any measurement or other issues. Sorry to piss you off.

Nemont
 
Im GUESSING (Not self proclaimed expert scorer) left gross at 179 7/8, right gross at 170 3/8, inside at 39 1/8. I again am NO expert, I also suck at math so mabey MBJB could tally that up and tell me how close I am?
Great bull guys, thats one I would have to "ground check" to see whats going on with that left side.
Bittersweet
 
>mtmiller,
>
>I know who you are and
>when the heck did you
>start writing hunting articles?
>Please forward so I can
>read through them.
>
>Nemont


Yeah... When are you going to do my expos?? You're the man, can I wash your feet? :D
 
nbjbhunterman,

Just curiuos, what do you think the bull would score. Also, pony up the the score of the other bull that mtmiller posted. Both bulls have been featured in Eastman's Magazines and have also been included in the King's Outdoor World Calenders. They post the scores in both places. They even mention the fact that that the G3's on Brendans bull are over 30" long and it gross scores 423 6/8". I believe Eastman's even posts the score broken down for each antler.

I have to agree with Bearpaws in feeling sorry that you have never gotten to judge or see a 400 class bull on the hoof or dead apparently, but are such a proclaimed expert that you can argue with official Boone & Crockett scores.
 
The gross on that last bull is in the 412 to 418 range I bet. Somewhere in the middle of that with change. Am I right? mtmuley Left side might throw off the net.
 
bittersweetmuleymeat,

I added up your score after I posted mine and yours came to 388 1/8. I would say we must have the same 17 inch monitor. I guessed 389.

Somebody pinch me.
 
Zigga, 7 year old 14" compaq? (with Plum Jam on the lower left corner?)Tough bull to figure out that left side. I try to use pics of bulls we have taken in the past or sheds/racks we have laying around as reference.
When looking at a pic of a bull I try to figure out the length of one tine (usually the sword) and thats what I base all my other length "guesses" on. If I am off on that first length "guess", oh boy, am I WAY off on the final score!
I didnt even add the two sides and the width before I posted, just went through each antler eyeing it up.
Lets hope were both "really right" as opposed to "really wrong", again, if I had spotted this bull while hunting the only scoring I would be doing is with my hands after her rests for good. Happy hunting
Bittersweet
 
Bittersweet,

My monitor is newer with no Plum Jam. Anyways, I thought the bulls normal side with an identical match would be around 350 and then I just added a bit for the nontypical side. Far less scientific than your way. Still waiting for the actual score. If I'm within 35 then great. I just like to see the pics.
 
MtMiller, I know who you are too, and i would score your face as a 9.5 on the ugly scale or 1-10
I am a certified ugly score master, and i have scored far more gopher skulls than any of you too, and my dad can beat up your dad.
 
Craig, I thought I knew who you were, but now, I'm not sure and I'm deeply humbled. Please forgive me for any flack I've given you over the years.....I am not worthy.
 

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