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bullseye
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Anyone have any experience with Elk Hunts on the Navajo Nation in New Mexico ?
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
mano_a_mano
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The Navajo game and fish will give you some ideas where to scout/hunt. If this is still a combo tag that includes deer, focus on deer; you'll never regret it. If they still have over the counter bear tag (used to be cheap) get one; I bet you'll see one.
All land is owned by the tribe so you theoretically have access to the entire nation; report any locked gates to get through them.
Lots of locals driving around with guns in the back of their trucks shooting deer.
Pretty much found them by checking every water hole until I found tracks. Best opportunity was right at dusk on trails leading to water hole with tracks. Tracked elk into the thickets but you would be amazed what an elk can walk through. Bugled prior to hunt (according to other hunters I met out there) but only glunked while I was there. Thick brush in some areas; too thick for a bow.
Local guides will put you on a local hay field (only good opening morning) where elk are hanging out; where they go after that is anyones guess as they disappear from the area after that first morning.
All land is owned by the tribe so you theoretically have access to the entire nation; report any locked gates to get through them.
Lots of locals driving around with guns in the back of their trucks shooting deer.
Pretty much found them by checking every water hole until I found tracks. Best opportunity was right at dusk on trails leading to water hole with tracks. Tracked elk into the thickets but you would be amazed what an elk can walk through. Bugled prior to hunt (according to other hunters I met out there) but only glunked while I was there. Thick brush in some areas; too thick for a bow.
Local guides will put you on a local hay field (only good opening morning) where elk are hanging out; where they go after that is anyones guess as they disappear from the area after that first morning.
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TRice
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Why are you looking in NM, The best elk country is in Az along the unit 9 border, and along the zuni reservation border !
Todd
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All NM hunters should be aware of what is waiting for them in the woods. Yes my friends, it's true....very true
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=5535
LOCATION DETAILS: Seven mile East of Cuba near the new baca ranch location
NEAREST TOWN: Cuba, New Mexico
NEAREST ROAD: state forest RD 126
OBSERVED: I live in Albuquerque New Mexico in the summer of 1998 during the September elk Hunt I had an experence while stalking for elk with a hunting buddy of mine I had the feeling something was near but could not tell what. I stopped and waited for a while but nothing when we started do walk again we heard a very loud and low growl and I mean a loud and low growl near by. I have been hunting far a long time now and have been in the wilderness since I was a boy and have never heard anything like this it scared my partner very much and since I was the only one armed with a firearm he did not leave my side for the rest of the day. I had an idea of what it was but kept it to myself and did not want to scare my friend more I told him it was just a bull in heat as their was cattle all through the area he kind of believed me when we got back to camp we kept the enconter to ourselves. A few other things happened that week the next day we found a bear hunting dog in camp he was very scared of something and very hungry we tried to get hold of him to check his collar but he would have nothing of it he would stay close to camp but not close enough to get him we finally had to leave him there. Also the next day I kept my eyes and ears open some of the elk rubs did not look right not till a couple of years later did I connect what I was seeing some of the them where tree twists not scrapes like an elk would do reading some books I have read say that sasquatch mark there territory this way. In 2000 I was deer hunting this time with most of the same people not in the same area while sitting around the fire I just happen to say something about bigfoot some of the people laughed but some did not so I took a chance and told them about 1998 hunting trip that night I found out the night before I got there the hunting party heard some loud screams and moans from the hill nearby it scarred them enough that they all armed themselves. Some of them to this day still do not believe but I have played a recording of sasquatch sounds for some of them and they say that was it. I know that New Mexico would not seem bigfoot country most people think of it as all desert but it is not we have one of the largest elk populations in the country and lately we are having more sittings where I herd the growl is not far from the Colorado border and two other sittings in southern NM near Ruidoso which has a large elk heard. I know what I heard and it was not anything I have heard before not a bear or big cat or a bull it almost sounded human and very powerfull it thrilled me and scare me but I know it is real and out there to think other wise would not be sensable.
ALSO NOTICED: A hunting dog was found and some strange looking
elk rubs.
OTHER WITNESSES: One my hunting buddy and day before 6 others
hunting and sitting around the camp fire.
OTHER STORIES: None other than what I have read from your site about New Mexico
TIME AND CONDITIONS: Early morning may 8:30 A.M. Bright
and sunny day
ENVIRONMENT: High Desert mountian Oak brush Pinion and Ponderosa Pine tree
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Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Reid Nelson:
The submitter is an avid big game hunter and very familiar with elk, bear, and mountain lion behavior and vocalizations. He has heard many elk and mountain lion vocalizations in his life and believes these vocalizations were nothing like any he has ever heard. Specifically, he indicated that the volume, resonance, and "baseness" of the growls were greater than that of any other animal he has heard and most like the bigfoot recordings linked on the BFRO web site. I asked the submitter what message he thought was being conveyed by the growl - "get the heck out of here" was his response. The growl was so frightening to this avid woodsman that he stopped hunting for the day and retreated to camp after hearing them. He and several others were bow hunting in the area and he was carrying a small side arm solely as a bear deterrent should the need arise. According to the submitter, he saw very little bear sign (tracks, scat, etc.) that year, much less than expected.
The submitter also indicated that the tree damage he noted was not consistent with elk rubs. The damaged trees were altered at a level too high for most elk and the bark was not rubbed or scraped as one would expect from antler damage. Instead the trees, most of which were from 1 - 2 inches in diameter, typically had only a few small branches broken and then the main trunk twisted and broken off at about 7 feet above the ground. He also indicated that there were no claw marks as one might expect from bear damage.
The other members of the hunting party which he referrs to as having heard vocalizations before he arrived are also of the opinion that they heard something completely unknown to them. Two have concluded that the responsible animal was a sasquatch. The submitter added that these other members were so frightened that they spent a good deal of the night armed and locked in their vehicles. This happened only after the animal vocalizing had moved so close to camp that they felt intimidated. Considering that the camp had a fire going at the time, this aggressive behavior seems unlikely from an elk, coyote, bear, or mountain lion. The individuals who were part of this earlier event have been asked to submit details of their encounter to the BFRO.
Not much can be understood from the arrival of the lost and frightened dog at their camp, other than to note that it wore a radio collar and was of the curly haired breed of dog typically used by bear hunters in the area.
The two vocalization incidents and the tree breaks provide evidence consistent with sasquatch activity. Although not conclusive, these events point toward activity not representative of known animals in the Jemez Mountains. The witness has provided accurate, credible observations to support the likelihood that the activity noted was the result of one or more sasquatch.
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=5535
LOCATION DETAILS: Seven mile East of Cuba near the new baca ranch location
NEAREST TOWN: Cuba, New Mexico
NEAREST ROAD: state forest RD 126
OBSERVED: I live in Albuquerque New Mexico in the summer of 1998 during the September elk Hunt I had an experence while stalking for elk with a hunting buddy of mine I had the feeling something was near but could not tell what. I stopped and waited for a while but nothing when we started do walk again we heard a very loud and low growl and I mean a loud and low growl near by. I have been hunting far a long time now and have been in the wilderness since I was a boy and have never heard anything like this it scared my partner very much and since I was the only one armed with a firearm he did not leave my side for the rest of the day. I had an idea of what it was but kept it to myself and did not want to scare my friend more I told him it was just a bull in heat as their was cattle all through the area he kind of believed me when we got back to camp we kept the enconter to ourselves. A few other things happened that week the next day we found a bear hunting dog in camp he was very scared of something and very hungry we tried to get hold of him to check his collar but he would have nothing of it he would stay close to camp but not close enough to get him we finally had to leave him there. Also the next day I kept my eyes and ears open some of the elk rubs did not look right not till a couple of years later did I connect what I was seeing some of the them where tree twists not scrapes like an elk would do reading some books I have read say that sasquatch mark there territory this way. In 2000 I was deer hunting this time with most of the same people not in the same area while sitting around the fire I just happen to say something about bigfoot some of the people laughed but some did not so I took a chance and told them about 1998 hunting trip that night I found out the night before I got there the hunting party heard some loud screams and moans from the hill nearby it scarred them enough that they all armed themselves. Some of them to this day still do not believe but I have played a recording of sasquatch sounds for some of them and they say that was it. I know that New Mexico would not seem bigfoot country most people think of it as all desert but it is not we have one of the largest elk populations in the country and lately we are having more sittings where I herd the growl is not far from the Colorado border and two other sittings in southern NM near Ruidoso which has a large elk heard. I know what I heard and it was not anything I have heard before not a bear or big cat or a bull it almost sounded human and very powerfull it thrilled me and scare me but I know it is real and out there to think other wise would not be sensable.
ALSO NOTICED: A hunting dog was found and some strange looking
elk rubs.
OTHER WITNESSES: One my hunting buddy and day before 6 others
hunting and sitting around the camp fire.
OTHER STORIES: None other than what I have read from your site about New Mexico
TIME AND CONDITIONS: Early morning may 8:30 A.M. Bright
and sunny day
ENVIRONMENT: High Desert mountian Oak brush Pinion and Ponderosa Pine tree
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Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Reid Nelson:
The submitter is an avid big game hunter and very familiar with elk, bear, and mountain lion behavior and vocalizations. He has heard many elk and mountain lion vocalizations in his life and believes these vocalizations were nothing like any he has ever heard. Specifically, he indicated that the volume, resonance, and "baseness" of the growls were greater than that of any other animal he has heard and most like the bigfoot recordings linked on the BFRO web site. I asked the submitter what message he thought was being conveyed by the growl - "get the heck out of here" was his response. The growl was so frightening to this avid woodsman that he stopped hunting for the day and retreated to camp after hearing them. He and several others were bow hunting in the area and he was carrying a small side arm solely as a bear deterrent should the need arise. According to the submitter, he saw very little bear sign (tracks, scat, etc.) that year, much less than expected.
The submitter also indicated that the tree damage he noted was not consistent with elk rubs. The damaged trees were altered at a level too high for most elk and the bark was not rubbed or scraped as one would expect from antler damage. Instead the trees, most of which were from 1 - 2 inches in diameter, typically had only a few small branches broken and then the main trunk twisted and broken off at about 7 feet above the ground. He also indicated that there were no claw marks as one might expect from bear damage.
The other members of the hunting party which he referrs to as having heard vocalizations before he arrived are also of the opinion that they heard something completely unknown to them. Two have concluded that the responsible animal was a sasquatch. The submitter added that these other members were so frightened that they spent a good deal of the night armed and locked in their vehicles. This happened only after the animal vocalizing had moved so close to camp that they felt intimidated. Considering that the camp had a fire going at the time, this aggressive behavior seems unlikely from an elk, coyote, bear, or mountain lion. The individuals who were part of this earlier event have been asked to submit details of their encounter to the BFRO.
Not much can be understood from the arrival of the lost and frightened dog at their camp, other than to note that it wore a radio collar and was of the curly haired breed of dog typically used by bear hunters in the area.
The two vocalization incidents and the tree breaks provide evidence consistent with sasquatch activity. Although not conclusive, these events point toward activity not representative of known animals in the Jemez Mountains. The witness has provided accurate, credible observations to support the likelihood that the activity noted was the result of one or more sasquatch.
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bullseye
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Sounds like a Rich tale to me!!
Good luck in Colorado this year
UNC
Sounds like a Rich tale to me!!
Good luck in Colorado this year
UNC
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RLH
Guest
oh boy, here we go again. i call bs. no such thing as bigfoot. o' course i know some wierd lookin' dudes from the rez that could almost pass for one. i've heard the sure fire way to tell if it's a bigfoot is to taste one of the suspected turds. after you do that, call me and describe it and i'll tell ya if it's a bigfoot or not.
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NeedaNu4x
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Well to the original question... I have hunted elk on the Navajo Reservation, last year. And in fact very close to this alledged Bigfoot "sitting". But they are few and far between, Elk, that is. I've even spotted a few small herds up at a couple of the moutain lakes. Theyre there but i think that they (Navajo G&F)are still trying to get herds established out there.
But its totally awesome when you do see them.
As for bigfoot... seen/heard alot of things but never bigfoot.
Mike.
PS. I just confirmed that I was drawn for archery deer and rifle elk hunt there on the Navajo rez!!!! WOAWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Luck to all this new hunting year.
But its totally awesome when you do see them.
As for bigfoot... seen/heard alot of things but never bigfoot.
Mike.
PS. I just confirmed that I was drawn for archery deer and rifle elk hunt there on the Navajo rez!!!! WOAWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Luck to all this new hunting year.
