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kirkl
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Here ya go guys, this is the big one killed last week or week and a half ago.
fatrooster
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Awesome Bull. fatrooster.
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Buckrub
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I'd love to see more photos of that toad!!! Great elk!!
ELKMASTER101
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NO RUB MARKS.
Nice bull.
Is that an ATV in the back ground?
Nice bull.
Is that an ATV in the back ground?
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BEARHUNTER4u
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Thanks for getting the picture.Monster bull and there is plenty more were that came from.Seen them early this year lots of big bulls running around.
ridgerunner
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Sweet bull BUT........if it was taken on a landowner tag it disgusts me that they complain about crop damage and then shoot only the big bulls, should be a cow hunt as far as I'm concerned.
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Chef
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Great bull in any state.
Looks like the "crops" are sagebrush?
Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
Looks like the "crops" are sagebrush?
Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
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kirkl
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Chef, you dont see that single piece of wheat sticking up. lol
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BEARHUNTER4u
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It's not the wheat they are worried about its the rocks and CRP that the ELK are doing the damage to and a few cars.One bull got hit yesterday morning,the state got to keep that one.
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fowladdict
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That is an ATV in the background and UUUHH...it doesn't look like it is on a road. Shame Shame!!
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kirkl
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Its private property.
ridgerunner
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Kicker -
If you've been here long you'll know I don't take pot shots. I was simple expressing my opinion that if you are going to have landowners who complain about crop damage, who lock their lands to public hunters, then get damage permits they should be for the animals that due most of the damage and reproduce, ie cows, not the branched bulls. The bull is an awesome bull no doubt about it, but I'd take a hard earned spike on public land over a big bull like this shot on private land in the middle of summer when they don't get hunted any day of the week. To me, its just like having your own private elk ranch but that's my opinion.
If you've been here long you'll know I don't take pot shots. I was simple expressing my opinion that if you are going to have landowners who complain about crop damage, who lock their lands to public hunters, then get damage permits they should be for the animals that due most of the damage and reproduce, ie cows, not the branched bulls. The bull is an awesome bull no doubt about it, but I'd take a hard earned spike on public land over a big bull like this shot on private land in the middle of summer when they don't get hunted any day of the week. To me, its just like having your own private elk ranch but that's my opinion.
couesbitten
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Beautiful bull for sure, but I'm sure we are not getting the full story here. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that a UFO over the head of the guy on the right? Any thoughts as to how the aliens are invovled in this? Scott/couesbitten
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HEEFMAN
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Ridgerunner has a point to consider about this bull having been harvested on some sort of depredation hunt. On the other hand, the landowner's hard work, crops (wherever they might be) and water no doubt played a significant role in the size of this monster. On a related note, I have to disagree with Ridgerunner about passing on this bull for a "hard earned spike on public land." Let's get realistic here. Like most elk hunters, I've been hunting public land for years and taking only spikes and rags. There's no way I'd pass up an opportunity to take that awesome bull so long as I was following the rules then in place and there were no high fences involved. I'd even allow my face to be shown in the photographs.
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Chef
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That's not a UFO...
That's lead flyin' from another rancher
at another crop damaging monster bull!
Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
That's lead flyin' from another rancher
at another crop damaging monster bull!
Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
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apache7mm
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why does the guy on the left look like he's straight outta the 1970s? maybe because of his faded jeans and t-shirt, looks like my grandpas old hunting pictures, the hunter on the right hunts just like one of my uncles, short pants everytime! guess they both like to get scratched up legs or something, thats cool, nice looking bull though, very nice! still not sure about the UFO/flying lead though haha.
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Ridgerunner,
i have only been here for a couple of years. I was not refering to YOUR post as a pot shot. I was refering to the post about the ATV not being on a road. How in the world can you tell if that ATV is on a road or not. Not trying to start a fight or anything, just don't understand why some guy's (not you) are so quick to judge others success. The hunter looks to be an older gentleman and maybe that is a hard earned bull for him at his age. Good for him. My dad is getting up there in years and he always hunted for meat, not horns. But now that he has lost a step, i would love to see him connect on a bull that size, depredation hunt or not.
I have always respected your post's and i did not mean to rub you the wrong way.
Kicker
i have only been here for a couple of years. I was not refering to YOUR post as a pot shot. I was refering to the post about the ATV not being on a road. How in the world can you tell if that ATV is on a road or not. Not trying to start a fight or anything, just don't understand why some guy's (not you) are so quick to judge others success. The hunter looks to be an older gentleman and maybe that is a hard earned bull for him at his age. Good for him. My dad is getting up there in years and he always hunted for meat, not horns. But now that he has lost a step, i would love to see him connect on a bull that size, depredation hunt or not.
I have always respected your post's and i did not mean to rub you the wrong way.
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kirkl
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Heres the story on this bull that just came out in the newspaper today.
Wapato man bags possible elk-hunting record
By SCOTT SANDSBERRY
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
Photo courtesy of BERT PENCE
Bert Pense poses with the antlers from the bull elk he killed in the Black Rock area in August.
Had Bert Pence stayed home and worked on the peach harvest at his family's orchards that day six weeks ago, his hunting buddies wouldn't be teasing him about needing a bigger house.
Of course, then he wouldn't have that likely state-record rack of bull elk antlers to make room for, either.
Nor would he have gotten all of the chuckles he's had over the wild tales about his success.
"It's been kind of fun hearing all the rumors about this," said Pence, 44, a Wapato orchardist, who shot and killed the possible record elk on
Aug. 1 as part of a landowner access permit hunt in Black Rock, between Rattlesnake Hills and the Yakima Training Center.
"I've heard that it was shot out of season and I was fined $10,000 and that the head was taken from me," Pence said. "I've heard it's a new world record, which it's not.
"I've heard I was offered $100,000 and that I was a dummy for passing it up ? the next offer I get will be the first. And I've heard it was shot by a ranch-hand that works for the family that owns the property."
Pence and his father, Tom, had hunted on the same property, with the landowner's permission, for several years during the regular elk season. Last year and this year, that landowner was among several Rattlesnake Hills property owners who were issued Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife had issued depradation elk permits.
On July 31 ? the day before the permits could be used ? a representative of the landowner called Pence and asked if he and his father would be available to hunt the next day.
"I said I can't, we're picking peaches," recalled Pence, whose orchards grow cherries, plums, apples and pears in addition to peaches, the main crop. "From early July until mid-September, it's a crazy time."
But we saw a good bull, maybe a mile, mile-and-a-half away, the man on the phone told him. It looks like a keeper, and we're going to go after him.
This sounded too good to pass up. When his father agreed to go with him, that made him Pence's mind. And in the pre-dawn dimness of the next morning, they were on the property, ready to go at first light.
The first group of elk they saw were cows. Then there was another one with four bulls, one of them larger than the others. When the group wandered into a canyon to bed down, Pence and the others began to surround the canyon.
No sooner had Pence gotten into position that he saw the elk coming out of the canyon.
"Usually on hunts there's so many things that can go wrong and do go wrong," he said. "But this one, everything went right."
Pence had a clean shot from the 200- to 250-yard range.
"Three shots later" ? all hits, he said ? "end of story."
Pence approached his kill, getting more excited with each step.
"There's a saying a lot of hunters have, how often there's 'ground shrinkage' ? it ends up being a lot smaller than it was at the time you were shooting at it," Pence said. "But this one grew. It was 'Omigosh, omigosh' ? the closer we got, the bigger it got."
The animal itself was still at a lean summer weight. De-boned at the site, it yielded 200 pounds of meat ? not small by any means, but not gargantuan, either.
The antlers, though, were mammoth.
Todd Peyser of Peyser Taxidermy in Selah scored the antlers, which are nontypical ? that is, not having identical points on each side ? at a net 428 inches (an accumulation of four different measurements on girth and the length of each tine and the main beam).
The state record for nontypical is 419. That means that, 60 days after the kill (to allow for antler shrinkage), Pence's elk could be the new standard.
"It depends on how much (the antler rack) shrinks, though," said Peyser, an official measurer for state records in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. "But I don't think it'll shrink so much that it won't get the record."
The elk's net typical score ? after deductions for differences between the two sides ? was just over 400 inches, which would put Pence's elk at No. 2 on that alltime state list, Peyser said.
Now Pence has the problem of what to do with it.
"Ideally, an animal of this magnitude should be shoulder-mounted ? that's the best way to show it off. But I just don't have the room for it," said Pence, whose single-story ranch house has 8-foot ceilings.
"When I tell people that, they say, well, you've just got to add on. Some of them are joking, but some of them, I think, are dead serious."
Pence, for whom the busy orchard season is only just now winding down, still ponders his decision to hunt that day.
"What if I would have said no?" he said. "If I was the responsible guy I should have been and stayed home and worked ... I'd be very upset."
Instead, he's the proud owner an eye-popping set of elk antlers, which he intends to have mounted on a plaque in his house; that much he has room for.
He plans to enjoy them for at least a year or two. After that, he said, he might be willing to sell or lease them to someone for display in touring sportsman shows.
"If they want to pay for my kids' college all the way through," he said with a laugh, "then maybe we can strike a deal."
Wapato man bags possible elk-hunting record
By SCOTT SANDSBERRY
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
Photo courtesy of BERT PENCE
Bert Pense poses with the antlers from the bull elk he killed in the Black Rock area in August.
Had Bert Pence stayed home and worked on the peach harvest at his family's orchards that day six weeks ago, his hunting buddies wouldn't be teasing him about needing a bigger house.
Of course, then he wouldn't have that likely state-record rack of bull elk antlers to make room for, either.
Nor would he have gotten all of the chuckles he's had over the wild tales about his success.
"It's been kind of fun hearing all the rumors about this," said Pence, 44, a Wapato orchardist, who shot and killed the possible record elk on
Aug. 1 as part of a landowner access permit hunt in Black Rock, between Rattlesnake Hills and the Yakima Training Center.
"I've heard that it was shot out of season and I was fined $10,000 and that the head was taken from me," Pence said. "I've heard it's a new world record, which it's not.
"I've heard I was offered $100,000 and that I was a dummy for passing it up ? the next offer I get will be the first. And I've heard it was shot by a ranch-hand that works for the family that owns the property."
Pence and his father, Tom, had hunted on the same property, with the landowner's permission, for several years during the regular elk season. Last year and this year, that landowner was among several Rattlesnake Hills property owners who were issued Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife had issued depradation elk permits.
On July 31 ? the day before the permits could be used ? a representative of the landowner called Pence and asked if he and his father would be available to hunt the next day.
"I said I can't, we're picking peaches," recalled Pence, whose orchards grow cherries, plums, apples and pears in addition to peaches, the main crop. "From early July until mid-September, it's a crazy time."
But we saw a good bull, maybe a mile, mile-and-a-half away, the man on the phone told him. It looks like a keeper, and we're going to go after him.
This sounded too good to pass up. When his father agreed to go with him, that made him Pence's mind. And in the pre-dawn dimness of the next morning, they were on the property, ready to go at first light.
The first group of elk they saw were cows. Then there was another one with four bulls, one of them larger than the others. When the group wandered into a canyon to bed down, Pence and the others began to surround the canyon.
No sooner had Pence gotten into position that he saw the elk coming out of the canyon.
"Usually on hunts there's so many things that can go wrong and do go wrong," he said. "But this one, everything went right."
Pence had a clean shot from the 200- to 250-yard range.
"Three shots later" ? all hits, he said ? "end of story."
Pence approached his kill, getting more excited with each step.
"There's a saying a lot of hunters have, how often there's 'ground shrinkage' ? it ends up being a lot smaller than it was at the time you were shooting at it," Pence said. "But this one grew. It was 'Omigosh, omigosh' ? the closer we got, the bigger it got."
The animal itself was still at a lean summer weight. De-boned at the site, it yielded 200 pounds of meat ? not small by any means, but not gargantuan, either.
The antlers, though, were mammoth.
Todd Peyser of Peyser Taxidermy in Selah scored the antlers, which are nontypical ? that is, not having identical points on each side ? at a net 428 inches (an accumulation of four different measurements on girth and the length of each tine and the main beam).
The state record for nontypical is 419. That means that, 60 days after the kill (to allow for antler shrinkage), Pence's elk could be the new standard.
"It depends on how much (the antler rack) shrinks, though," said Peyser, an official measurer for state records in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. "But I don't think it'll shrink so much that it won't get the record."
The elk's net typical score ? after deductions for differences between the two sides ? was just over 400 inches, which would put Pence's elk at No. 2 on that alltime state list, Peyser said.
Now Pence has the problem of what to do with it.
"Ideally, an animal of this magnitude should be shoulder-mounted ? that's the best way to show it off. But I just don't have the room for it," said Pence, whose single-story ranch house has 8-foot ceilings.
"When I tell people that, they say, well, you've just got to add on. Some of them are joking, but some of them, I think, are dead serious."
Pence, for whom the busy orchard season is only just now winding down, still ponders his decision to hunt that day.
"What if I would have said no?" he said. "If I was the responsible guy I should have been and stayed home and worked ... I'd be very upset."
Instead, he's the proud owner an eye-popping set of elk antlers, which he intends to have mounted on a plaque in his house; that much he has room for.
He plans to enjoy them for at least a year or two. After that, he said, he might be willing to sell or lease them to someone for display in touring sportsman shows.
"If they want to pay for my kids' college all the way through," he said with a laugh, "then maybe we can strike a deal."
