New Mexico Unit 52 Muzzleloader Hunt

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I was lucky enough to draw a unit 52 muzzleloader tag for bull and will not have much time to scout. Where are some good areas in Unit 52 that I may want to check out?

Thanks and good luck to everyone!!!
 
You've drawn a great hunt , the bulls will be rutting pretty well still up there . The whole unit has elk , all over from San Antonio Mtn. all the way west on 64 both sides and into Cruses Basin . You'll find most hunters will be up in the Basin , there is alot of elk in there but I think it'll have the most pressure too. Laguna Larga is a nice place to camp from , but not much elk will be there now as the muzzle antelope hunt just ended , but from there you can hunt just a few miles to the north . Broke Off mtn . would be a great area , any where in between there and Jawbone , theres great area full of elk , even more so if your able and willing to get away from your truck ...You should have an absolute great hunt....NMHUNTNUTT
 
Beware of big camps, stay as far away as you can. We hunted N or Hopewell lake last year and what I saw sickened me. The locals that dont draw elk tags, buy mountain lion tags and bear tags. That way they are legal to be in the woods. Then they all go out and shoot elk and the person that has the elk tag takes the elk home and does not punch the tag. When they get it home safe, they return to do it again, and again and again. They are ruining the elk herd. The local game warden was on vacation (first rifle season) can you believe it. Anyway, after the season he did contact us about the locals doing the poaching, one of them was an ex county commissioner, he had a palamino horse. They were even taking their 4 wheeler past the roadblock where it was supposed to be foot or horse only. At one time we heard a 4 wheeler hauling ass, then stop, then shots fired. Real bunch of great guys!!!!! Probably have the local warden on the payroll. NM better get a grip on the situation, or there wont be any elk left.
 
Can you contact me at [email protected] with any info about who to look out for (vehicles etc), between me and friends I know of probably 20 guys hunting 52 and can pass the word. I have heard unit 52 is one of the most poached areas in NM, sad.

I have yet to see a problem personally but know it exists. I did run into a group of guys in 2003 bowhunting that were completely amazed that I was not still hunting to fill my dads tag (I already filled mine), some of them had only deer tags - I am sure they were elk hunting.
 
Forest road 83 is not a bad place to start. There is a place called Esquibel Canyon. To the left of it is a ridge loaded with elk. They are very spooky if you are in the wrong direction of the wind when you see them. Once I had a muzzleloader deer permit for that area. I seen a 5x5 bull Elk resting in a small canyon. My muzzleloader was pretty sucky at the time, as in it didn't even have rifle type sights like the newer models now available. So we watched the elk for a few minutes before he decided to leave. He slowly started climbing the hill to make his way over to another canyon. we took off following him, and would you believe I got within about 15 to twenty feet from him. I could of almost threw a knife at him. Don't think you have to go to hell just to get your elk. Many fine elk's are just a few miles away from the Gas Station & the forest service office. Not all elk's are at the top of the mountains during the October & November hunts. Some hang out closer to the highway on the smaller ridges that are not far off from water holes. If your really looking for a close up shot, go to burned mountain. It is at 10,000 plus feet elevation above sea level, when you drive to the top. From there you can park your truck & walk into the mountain. Elk should only be about 5 10 minutes away if you walk inthe right direction. Burned mountain is not a giant mountain, but it's thick & you have to stop & look every so often. Otherwise, all you see is the animals running away from you. There is a big water hole like south east of burned mountain. Deer Elk and Bob Cat's are all dependant on it. There are also elk that hide just below the top of burned mountain on the north east side of the top. All you have to do is drop down into the little canyon that has a little spring that travels east for awhile, then work your way back up. As for forest service road 83, once you start getting out of esquibel canyon, you'll get into an area that opens up for about 1/2 miles worth of land. You should be traveling west headed in the direction of the top of Tusas Ridge. Before getting into the forest again, there is a water hole about 550 yards away from the main road. I seen one of the biggest bulls there with about 4 cows about 3:00 pm last year during the 1st rifle elk hunt. The elk were at the water hole drinking water until they saw our vehicle. The bull took off full speed ahead along with the cows. That is a good place for muzzleloader because you have some forest to hide you from the elk while they are on there way to the water hole. Don't wanna wait for them to drink water, then simply go and get em out of bed if your not patient. Don't worry about there not being any animals because of poacher rumors etc, as unit 52 is to big to out poach the elk herds. I could prove it to you, but I can't right now, because my knee swelled up over the weekend. I do look forward to at least cruising 52 a few times this month & taking a few pictures before the cold weather sets in.

Josh
 
2 things: 1) stop at the Tres Piedras Grill and get a green chili hamburger and ask some of the locals if the bulls are down low or are they still up high......the answer reduces so much guess work. 2) My wife and I live in New Orleans. We have been devastated by the hurricane. We have 2 MB unit wide landowner permits, Unit 52. I am going up to muzzleloader hunt w/ Tim Bearclaw of Kiowa Outfitters; she is staying up the road in Baton Rouge to reconstitute our lives...kids in school, etc.
If u know anybody looking for permit, have them callme..the permit is good for Archery, ML or rifle. Thanks Wayne Paxton 225-329-9597, [email protected]
 
Faultblock, sorry about your loss from the huricane!

Also FYI your tag is only good for muzzy or rifle - not archery I believe, worth far more for rifle/muzzy too

DonV OH

You will be happy with 52
 
Are the bulls currently bugling pretty hard in New Mexico Unit 52?

Thanks!!
 
I'm heading up there tonight or in the morning. I'll let ya know. Gonna shoot some video and take some pics. Will post whatever I come back with. Will camp for a night or two. Should be fun. Gonna check out that spot, DonV.
 
It is very choppy. If you are able to make a call don't move your head cause it can disconnect. You may be able to make calls in certain areas, but don't count on it.
 
Ah yes that reminds me (first I have never gotten a call out or in in 52) but I have heard there is a spot at hopewell lake where you get a signal - where is that? Heard there is always a camper(s) there.
 
Back from 52. Was up there Thursday and Friday night. Heard one bull bugle a few times. Not much to report. Friday was really windy. hard to heard much. Cellphone reception sucks. There are a few spots, but if it goes thru, better talk fast.
 
I was in 52 today, & got a phone call from my wife on the cell. I was in forest road 83. Was able to get a clear signal only because I was able to see the antennas at San Antonio Mountain directly from where I was with the binoculars. Basicly if there are obstructions such as canyons mountains trees etc that get in the way between your cell & the antennas at San Antonio, you will either get no signal or a bad one, unless satellite phone or pay phone at the gas station. I took a few pics with my new cam today. Instead of seeing elk at the water hole I saw cattle.
At the end of the day I seen a small herd of cows elks hanging out about 1/2 mile from a few water holes. I thought I was gonna be able to sneak up on them to get them on video tape & also see if there was a bull in the herd. Instead, I got skunked just like the last time in 2003 during 1st rifle cow in almost the same spot.

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Last time I scouted unit 52, I saw lots of cattle also. That was about three weeks ago.
 
Yup. I was up there over the weekend and there were cattle everywhere I went. I think they move 'em out before muzzy and rifle hunts though. Also, alot of the water has dried up. I guess that could help. narrows things down a bit.
 
Any helpful news about New Mexico Unit 52 lately. Are the elk bugling? I am planning on going scouting tomorrow. Any input is appreciated. Thanks everyone and good luck.
 
We just got back from 52 late Friday night.. One thing is for sure there throats wont be to sore to bugle for you guys during muzzleloader season because they sure didn't say alot during the second archery season... They did start to bugle about 2 days before the season was over for us...Good Luck to all....Jeff
 
Got some video of some cow Elk's on the run today.

Click on the link below to see them in action.

Had trouble with AOL's browser to view the video with interruptions so I right clicked on the link through AOL to save target as.

Then switched over to Internet Explorer, clicked on the link, & the video was downloaded to a temp folder which also allowed me to see it with out chops.

I have a dial up connection.

Also right clicking on the link and saving target as the name of the file should allow for the movie to be downloaded and viewed on your computer.

http://www.alljosh.info/Sept-25-05.wmv
 
Good luck to all in 52 this year. I will be heading down for the muzzy hunt and can't wait. Hopefully the bulls will be screamin!
 
Oh they should be screaming by the time you get there... If you want any info we just got back i will tell you all that i learned...
 

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