MT Wolf Hunt

[Hiker of the Woods]

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were with the dates and weapons regulations set for hunting wolves in MT compared to ID. Which state's hunting dates and regulations do you like better and why?

MT:

Archery Backcountry
Sept.3-Sept.14

Rifle Backcountry
Sept.15-Feb.15

General Archery
Sept.3-Oct.16

General Rifle
Oct.22-Feb.15

or

ID:

Any weapon Aug.30-Mar.31

 

[drahthaar]

Not sure what point you are trying to make but MT is going to have some major changes next year.

The quota is probably going to disappear. It is going to be basically open season between Sept 1-Feb 15.

They are going to try to get trappers involved as much as possible, within the confines of what the Lynx folks can live with. May not be able to use snares.

Should be some changes to wolf districts with or w/o the other changes.

The biggest thing people can do, is be prepared for footloose MT to garner enough signatures this time around to abolish trapping on all public land in MT. If it makes the ballot, it is going to pass. That will be the biggest gash in MT wolf management. Mark my words.

 

[Hiker of the Woods]

That is interesting about the new season dates. Where can I read up on that or did you just hear it word of mouth? I really hope your state doesn't have that law on trapping on the ballot. We in Oregon have had that same type of management and our herds have paid for it.

>Not sure what point you are
>trying to make but MT
>is going to have some
>major changes next year.
>
>The quota is probably going to
>disappear. It is going
>to be basically open season
>between Sept 1-Feb 15.
>
>They are going to try to
>get trappers involved as much
>as possible, within the confines
>of what the Lynx folks
>can live with. May
>not be able to use
>snares.
>
>Should be some changes to wolf
>districts with or w/o the
>other changes.
>
>The biggest thing people can do,
>is be prepared for footloose
>MT to garner enough signatures
>this time around to abolish
>trapping on all public land
>in MT. If it
>makes the ballot, it is
>going to pass. That
>will be the biggest gash
>in MT wolf management.
>Mark my words.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

The quota system is never going to be removed from the wolf hunt.......

 

[BigFin]

The quota is now one wolf closer to being filled. Eleven days of wolf hunting, one dead wolf.

http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos/8995img_1807-1.jpg

"Hunt when you can - You're gonna' run out of health before you run out of money!"

 

[mtmuley]

Congrats Randy. Looks like it was a good time. drahthaar, the Footloose folks have me a bit worried. The Initiative just barely missed last time. These folks have a lot of people convinced in abolishing trapping. Even hunters. My concern is what will they go after next if they succeed? mtmuley

 

[Hiker of the Woods]

Great looking wolf. Congrats on your kill!

 

[mnmthunting]

I like seeing pics of dead wolves. Congrats!
I wouldn't mind seeing a pile of dead wolves.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

Id like to see a mile of dead wolves,nice one guys.

 

[beech18]

2 thumbs up on the wolf kill

 

[treedagain]

great job on killing your wolf, congrads

 

[eldorado]

Beautiful wolf. What a gorgeous coat.

Eldorado

 

[HayZeus]

If you guys want to see a pile of dead wolves go to the Idaho forum and look at the post, Trapping season is on, posted by springbear.Those guys know how to trap wolves.Check it out its a good post.Hope you guys dont loose your trapping privileges.

 

[hunt4130]

nice work!

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

Hopefully next season we can trap here in MT.

 

[Zigga]

>Hopefully next season we can trap
>here in MT.


Why?

We already have pets getting caught in traps on a regular basis. I am all for trapping but the idiots that set them out can't take care of the ones they have. You can go shoot the fricken things NOW so what are you waiting for? If we can trap them next year then the year after that you'll want the right to poison them. Then you'll want to be able to shoot them from airplanes. Where will it end?

 

[montanamuley85]

>>Hopefully next season we can trap
>>here in MT.
>
>
>Why?
>
>We already have pets getting caught
>in traps on a regular
>basis. I am all
>for trapping but the idiots
>that set them out can't
>take care of the ones
>they have. You can
>go shoot the fricken things
>NOW so what are you
>waiting for? If we
>can trap them next year
>then the year after that
>you'll want the right to
>poison them. Then you'll
>want to be able to
>shoot them from airplanes.
>Where will it end?


It will end when dipshits like you get their heads screwed on straight and quit helping the very people that want to put an end to our sport.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

Zigga why dont you go lick that Obama bumper sticker off your Subaru and move back to CA?

 

[Zigga]

You push wolf trapping and we will lose trapping altogether and who knows what else. Pretty simple. What world are you guys living in? We are the minority......look around.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

Speak for yourself.There is no reason we shouldnt be able to trap wolves to fill the quoata and pushing for that isnt going to jeprodize our trapping rights.Sitting idle and cowering to the godamned hippies that want to take away our trapping rights on public land is going to be our downfall,stand up and let people know that trapping is important so they hear both sides of the issue,not just the cry baby bitchs crying about how their dogs could step in a leghold trap.

 

[Zigga]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-07-12 AT 09:01AM (MST)[p]If they want to make it an initiative they will win. It's not about cowering bonehead it's how the system works. Remember when some people wanted more high-fenced properties and Montana sent them packing? You were probably too young. Trapping is already on the fringe so I would advise not pushing it. I can't explain it more simply than that so if you don't get it now then you never will.

Oh to be 12 again. Thanks for the flashbacks.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-07-12 AT 06:54PM (MST)[p]

I helped to make sure the HF BS was outlawed here in MT,you want to start an argument about that ancient history as well?You dont have a clue Zigga,doubt you ever will.Ill be helping gather signatures again if thats what it takes to get trapping added to our means of harvesting wolves here in MT,guess I wont count on yours since your going to draw the shades and hide from the antis trying to take away our rights.Doing nothing is just as bad as being against us,get off your ass and wake the F up.
This is the kind of ##### we are up against,they are out there lobbying to take away our rights,you better get over the wait and see BS and do something to help.

http://www.bitterrootstar.com/2011/11/15/opposed-to-trapping-wolves/
http://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/tag/trapping-is-evil/
and this is what we are pulling for...(open pdf file proposed wolf regs)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...2qSiCg&usg=AFQjCNEYvOhKMBxYAEl4xyZgtTJkgwYwVA

 

[Zigga]

Yep. You don't get it.

 

[Zigga]

Your new nickname

LAST EDITED ON Feb-07-12 AT 08:55PM (MST)[p]MTSHTHEAD

It's a good one.


Or would you like plain old SHTHEAD??

I was told you were dense and was that ever an understatement.

 

[montanamuley85]

RE: Your new nickname

>LAST EDITED ON Feb-07-12
>AT 08:55?PM (MST)
>
>MTSHTHEAD
>
>It's a good one.
>
>
>Or would you like plain old
>SHTHEAD??
>
>I was told you were dense
>and was that ever an
>understatement.


Zigga,

If there's one thing we've learned (at least some of us) from the Wolf issue is that approaching the enviros with the intent to negotiate is a worthless position. It puts us in a position to bid against ourselves and nothing more.

The enviros are out for blood and they're not in to reaching a compromise. They have one agenda and everything they do is in furtherance of that agenda.

On the other hand, some guys like you are still wanting to meet and come to a peaceable agreement. We end up losing everytime because we're willing to make concessions and come to an agreement and they are not.

Time to fight fire with fire. No more 'deals' with the enviros. They have proven to be snakes that will shoot you in the back after shaking your hand.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

Whatever you say NIGGA.You just keep suckin off your friends from CA and see how long it takes them to take away everything we hold dear.I have often had the feeling you are nothing but a wolf in sheeps clothing,whenever these issues pop up you chime in on the side of leaving things be and not stirring the pot with enviros that want to end hunting/trapping/ect,I think you may just be the wolf on this site that needs to have his balls in a #6 leghold.I will push for the trapping and when we get it you can just keep your damned pets on a leash cuz there will be traps set all over the state.

 

[Zigga]

RE: Your new nickname

>Whatever you say NIGGA.You just keep
>suckin off your friends from
>CA and see how long
>it takes them to take
>away everything we hold dear.I
>have often had the feeling
>you are nothing but a
>wolf in sheeps clothing,whenever these
>issues pop up you chime
>in on the side of
>leaving things be and not
>stirring the pot with enviros
>that want to end hunting/trapping/ect,I
>think you may just be
>the wolf on this site
>that needs to have his
>balls in a #6 leghold.I
>will push for the trapping
>and when we get it
>you can just keep your
>damned pets on a leash
>cuz there will be traps
>set all over the state.
>


Traps set all over the state?? It's not the enviros you need to worry about when it comes to trapping. That's where the problem lies. People live here because they like to get out and do things. You're not going to get your fat a$$ out there often enough to check your traps and avoid catching someones pets or other protected game so don't even waste my time with that. I'd rather you find wolf dens and bludgeon pups until the cows come home. Enjoy. The problem is you are going to create a battle you won't win and you're too dumb to see it coming. If my Brittany got caught in one of your traps I'd wrap your #6 leghold around your neck and shove it up your azz. You think HFH give us a bad name but trappers are not doing us any favors. I know 70 year old cross country skiers that could take you into the woods and leave you for dead so don't think you're Mr. Outdoorsman/hunter/trapper. You're too dumb to see it coming but good luck shthed.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-12 AT 10:39PM (MST)[p]If your little wanna b hunting dog gets caught in one of my traps you and your dog were trespassing on private property.I check my line as the law requires,you think I want my catch eaten by another yote?You think if I had a set for a wolf I would take the chance of loosing one?You are the enemy Zigga,your a spineless twirp whos afraid to stand up to the hippies and defend our rights,you are one step worse than an enviro,you call yourself a hunter but you help the antis by being...YOU.Your lame threats make it all the more obvious what kind of scum bag you really are,Im sure you are very impressed by the "beating" your 70 year old men give you in bed but you dont scare anyone.BTW if your mutt ends up in one of my traps Ill use it for bait,wolves love to eat little rat dogs.If you are so concerned about fluffy stepping in a trap keep the damn thing on a leash,I waterfowl hunt sections of the river where trappers have beaver/muskrat sets all over the place and Ive never had either of my dogs in a trap,if they did get in one Id get them out and take care of them(if you release them right away injury's are very minimal),I wouldnt blame the trapper who is out there doing his thing.You sound exactly like the idiots who started this whole anti trapping thing,they are so afraid their pets are going to get into a trap while they are out counting birds and picking flowers that they want to take away something we have had for hundreds of years.Grow a pair and start standing up for our rights or dust off you San fran sandles and join your brethren back in your home state of California.A battle we wont win?You said the same thing about having the wolf hunt again,guess you arnt nearly as smart as you wish you were.Wolf hunting is legal and trapping of most predators is legal,there is no reason we shouldnt be allowed to harvest wolves in the winter with traps/snares to fill the quotas that need to be filled to keep the wolves in check,the legislature thinks its a good idea,the f&G thinks its a good idea,the only people against it are the anti hunters who want to end hunting all together and YOU.

 

[Zigga]

RE: Your new nickname

LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-12 AT 03:09AM (MST)[p]So you're trapping statewide and if my dog gets caught in your trap then he's on private property? Huh? With that level of ignorance you're going to make it really easy to get trapping shut down completely. We would have been hunting wolves years ago if it weren't for braindead extremists like you. How does that make you feel? We don't need one extreme fighting the other. It's proven that it doesn't work and makes matters far worse. Thanks??

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

.....not going to waste time trying to explain the things that you couldnt read above.Extremist?Really?We were trapping wolves years ago.We have just beaten the extremist antis that didnt want there to be a wolf hunt.Your argument holds no water,nothing you have stated makes any sense,we have just proven that fighting them works,you are living in a fantasy world of some sort,Im pretty sure you are one of those extremist antis posing as a hunter.Who else would come up with this BS about leaving things alone and not fighting for our rights.The extremists are the idiots in WY who thought they were going to get wolves classified as a predator so it could be shot on sight,year round.They were the ones holding up the wolf hunt program.We finally gave up waiting on them to pull their heads out and cut ties with them,largely in thanx to MTs gov and a few other politicians.Im not going to waste any more time trying to get this across to an ignoramus who is obviously part of the problem,welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Zigga]

RE: Your new nickname

>.....not going to waste time trying
>to explain the things that
>you couldnt read above.Extremist?Really?We were
>trapping wolves years ago.We have
>just beaten the extremist antis
>that didnt want there to
>be a wolf hunt.Your argument
>holds no water,nothing you have
>stated makes any sense,we have
>just proven that fighting them
>works,you are living in a
>fantasy world of some sort,Im
>pretty sure you are one
>of those extremist antis posing
>as a hunter.Who else would
>come up with this BS
>about leaving things alone and
>not fighting for our rights.The
>extremists are the idiots in
>WY who thought they were
>going to get wolves classified
>as a predator so it
>could be shot on sight,year
>round.They were the ones holding
>up the wolf hunt program.We
>finally gave up waiting on
>them to pull their heads
>out and cut ties with
>them,largely in thanx to MTs
>gov and a few other
>politicians.Im not going to waste
>any more time trying to
>get this across to an
>ignoramus who is obviously part
>of the problem,welcome to my
>ignore list.


Fighting them has taken a lot longer thanks to idiots like you spewing bs. Let the pros do it with facts and concrete evidence. There are more ways to support wolf management than trying to tell us you're already trapping them. What exactly do you do with an illegal wolf? Thanks for your support??? Congrats! You are officially part of the problem. Like I said before, just find wolf dens and drag the pups out and whack em with your fish killer. Easy isn't it? If you are beating the extremist antis then why do we still have wolves?? That's odd.

The original wolf plan was taken over by extremist freaks and drawn out way longer because of your extremist end of the spectrum. You won't get it which is what makes this so entertaining for me. I would be done responding too if I was you cause your BS is showing.

At least tell me which part of the state you recently moved to. I'd like to see some of your hunting pics as well. I don't have all day to search for something that probably doesn't exist so just point me in the right direction.

Thanks.

This is fun for me. Thanks again.

 

[beech18]

RE: Your new nickname

Name calling isnt going to get anyone anywhere. Together we stand, divided we fall. I see no reason why trapping can not be used to harvest wolves in my personal opinion. Not doing so, is only giving into the progressive approach the government is using, chipping away our rights as an american little by little.

 

[Bullofthewoods]

RE: Your new nickname

I would love to see a trapping season on wolves in MT. If you look at the Idaho numbers compared to MT, it's a no brainer. The only way the MT quota will get filled is to implement trapping. Heck, they extended the season by a month and a half this year and it has only accounted for about 40-45 additional wolves. We are going to be way below the objective this year.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

Exactly.The MT F&G knows we arnt going to meet these quotas with hunting alone,trapping will be used as a management tool and hopefully by this next winter.If we get a trapping season you will see just as many pics right here on the MT forum of wolves taken in late winter,we should have had this method available right now but we had to ##### foot around the lib to make sure we got a season at all.No brainier?YES Common sense?Yes Going to piss off the antis and the wolf huggers who pose as hunters?Better believe it.Ive been reading some OLD trapping books that talk about trapping wolves and bears,they used to use some mighty interesting methods.Some are no longer legal but it sure would be neat to walk up on a set and have a big ole black wolf staring you down!I think some heavy chain and some REAL heavy traps are going to be on my shopping list this summer.

 

[Zigga]

RE: Your new nickname

Shthead wants trapping statewide yet only traps on private land. Anyone else see a problem here?

Trapping on private land is fine. Just keep good tabs on them and report accidental wildlife trapping. Don't push for something that jeopordizes the rest of us. We've been there and done that. You fight the system and you'll prolong the damage........as we've seen with wolves. It would have been nice to get a handle on them a lot sooner but common sense finally prevailed. My hunting spots are still really good hunting spots so all is well with me. I'd still like to learn a little more about shtheads Montana history and hunting success. Probably never find out though. Me sad.

 

[Califelkslayer]

RE: Your new nickname

WHOA GUYS!!!!!!

Please don't think all Kalifornians are like Zigga, or even think like him. It's bad enough we have to deal with his clan daily, but please don't lump us all into the same pile of sh1t.

I did notice that he couldn't post without calling someone a name. I call that "tapping out." That's when your arguement doesn't make sense so you resort to name calling.

I read something disturbing above. You guys really believe that a vote to ban trapping would pass in Montana?????? WOW. In Montana????

I hunted Montana from "85" through "99," every other year. I met a bunch of folks from Montana over that time and they all seemed very sensible. And your Governor has an "Screw the Feds" attitude. With the, "Build the gun here, you can own it" law, I didn't think much had changed.

My partner and I walked into a little bar north of the High Woods (Geraldine maybe?) in 93 after 9 days of chasing elk with our bows. They wouldn't let us buy a drink. After a couple of hours, we were telling stories about Kali prisons, and they were waiting for us to finish our beer so they could buy us another. The most down to earth people i'd ever met.

And dead wolf?? Thanks!!!!!

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-12 AT 09:24PM (MST)[p]
I know they arnt all like him but unfortunately our state has been overrun with the lib CA transplants like the ones who want to outlaw trapping on PUBLIC land so fluffy cant chip a nail.They almost passed it last year,its not out of the realm of possibility with so few people knowing anything about trapping other than the crap the antis spread about it.Im a rep but I love or current Gov,he actually uses a bit of common sense in his decision making and wont take ##### from anyone,I dont care what party hes in if he will stand up for us.Im pretty sure he(Igga) wouldnt even fit in down in San Fran,they probably exiled him on a donkey with a big paper mache head on (Imagine the scene from Mad Max Thunder Dome) and told the donkey not to stop till you see Grizzly bears!BTW this is what you can do with a trap line,these guys pulled 8 wolves out of one pack with a short line...

 

[Califelkslayer]

RE: Your new nickname

WOW!!

That's some good stuff!!!

When I go out of state and am asked where I'm from, I say, "North East California. 70 miles from Reno, Nevada and 100 Miles from Oregon." And I really shouldn't be ashamed.

In every election, my county votes 70%+ for the Republican candidate. There are 54 counties in Kali. 6-8 carry this state. And all of them except Sacramento touch the ocean. It's frustrating.

I think America is alike in that it's mostly city folks thought processes against country folks. Unfortumately, this state has some huge cities.

 

[Zigga]

RE: Your new nickname

I think "tapping out" is when you attempt to discount someone that is more knowledgable about a subject. This being wolves and Montana. I live in "wolf country" and am a Native Montanan, born and raised within an hour of YNP. Probably shot more elk than you nice wonderful people combined times 5. You lowlifes are claiming I'm a limp wrist from California which couldn't be further from the truth. It's hilarious to listen to the hystaria about wolves. I request a little info from shthead that is pertinent to the discussion and as expected he "taps out". Probably a good decision. Also as expected he took a few of you RWJs with him. The problem with MM is the mentality is so stereotypical it's embarrassing. This is an awesome site constantly hijacked by trolls. Now I know why most grownups have gone to other sites. I find the entertainment level way too high to leave. Thank you a million times over as I feel empowered by your stupidity. Is that so wrong?

Long live the managed wolf. Without a doubt my most highly regarded trophy I have yet to attain. Hopefully next year I will score. Just didn't have time to get out this year. We can now manage by hunting but that still isn't enough. Sound familiar? The same mentality that got us overrun by wolves. If you look at much older posts you will see that I was all for the wolves getting shot on site as they step out of Yellowstone. I still feel that way.

It's difficult watching you boneheads jeopordize a way of life that has kept me enjoying this part of the country.

Please continue with the discussion of me being an extremist liberal from California or whatever you were talking about. It's way too fun for me.

 

[mnmthunting]

RE: Your new nickname

LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-12 AT 09:31AM (MST)[p]I live in MN wolf country. 4000 some here, our once great Moose population and hunting is gone. The Elk number about 40 animals. Deer are managed for the wolves.
No wolf hunting or trapping here.
Sure hope MT meets the quota of wolves.
Trapping, absolutely!! Not a thing wrong with trapping wolves, hope you guys get it done!

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

Unfortunately MT has natives that are liberal deuschbags as well,not just CA.I have friends from the Reno/NCA area that are no different than the natives here in MT that I hunt with,good folks,if I can ever draw that NV md tag Ill get a chance to hunt their country. If you cant see what the reintroduction of CANADIAN wolves has done to MTs herds your are absolutely out of touch with reality.You call yourself an elk hunter but your ok with the wolves and dont want MTs to have the chance to trap them....dont want to stir up trouble with the Save the Wolf antis....SURE.
No wolves today but I did pull a double with the 7 mag and the Fox Pro this AM while checking a trap line,you dont get a chance at the second dog around here very often.

 

[Zigga]

RE: Your new nickname

"If you cant see what the reintroduction of CANADIAN wolves has done to MTs herds your are absolutely out of touch with reality."


Umm.....yeah. Any predator or game animal left unmanaged is going to create problems. Kind of a no brainer. Thanks for pointing it out to others that might not know that though. I'll never fit in to your ultra conservative mindset that has prolonged our wolf management disaster so in your world I'll be a liberal or whatever name you can come up with.

Thanks for the dog pics.

 

[MTSHEDHEDZ]

RE: Your new nickname

I thought liberal was PC enough I wouldnt hurt your feelings!