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This is my first year archery hunting and I was looking for some opinions on 3-blade vs. 4-blade broadheads.
dryflyelk
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One of the best, if not the best, broadhead on the market today is the slick trick. It is a 4 blade head that will group right with your field points, and tough as nails. In various broadhead tests it is always coming out on top. Website: http://www.slicktrick.net/
Another terrific option would be the Magnus SS Snuffer. A three blade head that just came out this year.
Third option would be the Montec from G5.
Another terrific option would be the Magnus SS Snuffer. A three blade head that just came out this year.
Third option would be the Montec from G5.
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I shoot the Magnus snuffer. I have tried many, many others and IMHO, there is no better broadhead on the market. Some guys complain that they can't get the snuffers to shoot well, but I believe it is because they don't know how or don't take the time to tune their bow/arrow/broadhead combination. If your bow will shoot snuffers in a tight group, you know your arrows are flying perfectly. That means you know that all your energy is going to penetration instead of wobble.
I used to shoot Thunderheads, but had a couple bad experiences with them. They are IMHO the best replaceable blade broadhead, but the design makes them more susceptable to deflection.
I've heard good things about Slick Tricks, however, the sharp angle of the blades makes them even more susceptable to deflection. (I hit a 400 class bull on a quartering away shot with a Thunderhead 100 grain and instead of penetrating the chest cavity, it slid on the outside of the ribs and only gave him a flesh wound so I am especially careful about doing everything I can to avoid deflections. Obviously, I have no way to know for certain that the snuffer would have killed the bull, but I think it might have.)
All I know is that since I've changed to snuffers, I've killed everything I've shot at. I'm so convinced that I've started selling them off my web page in a "pre-sharpened" version. I.e. I buy them new from Magnus and spin test them and then sharpen them for my buyers. (http://gilaguide.com/snuffer.html)
Magnus warranties them against all defects and will replace them even if you shoot them into your basement wall. You can't beat their customer service.
If I were to go with a 4 blade, I would go with the magnus stingers.
I used to shoot Thunderheads, but had a couple bad experiences with them. They are IMHO the best replaceable blade broadhead, but the design makes them more susceptable to deflection.
I've heard good things about Slick Tricks, however, the sharp angle of the blades makes them even more susceptable to deflection. (I hit a 400 class bull on a quartering away shot with a Thunderhead 100 grain and instead of penetrating the chest cavity, it slid on the outside of the ribs and only gave him a flesh wound so I am especially careful about doing everything I can to avoid deflections. Obviously, I have no way to know for certain that the snuffer would have killed the bull, but I think it might have.)
All I know is that since I've changed to snuffers, I've killed everything I've shot at. I'm so convinced that I've started selling them off my web page in a "pre-sharpened" version. I.e. I buy them new from Magnus and spin test them and then sharpen them for my buyers. (http://gilaguide.com/snuffer.html)
Magnus warranties them against all defects and will replace them even if you shoot them into your basement wall. You can't beat their customer service.
If I were to go with a 4 blade, I would go with the magnus stingers.
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rackem406
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I have heard a lot of good thing about the Slick Tricks as well but I see wailings point about the deflection. I was with a friend shooting the same Thunderheads who bounced his arrow off the ribcage of a 360 class bull.
I'm in the same boat trying to select new broadheads for my new setup. I really like everything I'm hearing about the Slick Trick and I was also thinking about G5 Montec because I like the single piece design since
I have had problems w/ replaceable blade broadheads. But since then my local archery shop introduced me to the Shuttle Tight Points. They showed me the difference with shooting the same bow with the two broadheads. Now take in account that this guy shoots a Hoyt w/ 100lb limbs, but there was still a big difference. With the Montec he shot into a 4x4 block and it penetrated about 12". He then shot the Tight Point and the broad head was sticking 4" out the back of the target. I was impressed, but I still haven't made up my mind.
Anyone out there with experience with the Tight Point?
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I'm in the same boat trying to select new broadheads for my new setup. I really like everything I'm hearing about the Slick Trick and I was also thinking about G5 Montec because I like the single piece design since
I have had problems w/ replaceable blade broadheads. But since then my local archery shop introduced me to the Shuttle Tight Points. They showed me the difference with shooting the same bow with the two broadheads. Now take in account that this guy shoots a Hoyt w/ 100lb limbs, but there was still a big difference. With the Montec he shot into a 4x4 block and it penetrated about 12". He then shot the Tight Point and the broad head was sticking 4" out the back of the target. I was impressed, but I still haven't made up my mind.
Anyone out there with experience with the Tight Point?
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~George Carlin
Well I think you need to get the hell out of Dodge buddy. I think you need to use the new 12 blade broadhead. It's quick and after about 15 yards the b-head explodes and turns into little mini rockets sure to kill the biggest bull. Used it many times myself! (with no luck of course) 
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archeryelk
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I have killed several bulls with a Muzzy. G5 is a great head. Several others are.
I would never shoot an expanding broadhead. Just my 2 cents.
I can't imagine a good fixed blade "ANYTHING" bouncing off a bull at realistic ranges. Even with 45lbs on a modern bow.
Maybe hit a shoulder and fell out when the bull ran.
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I would never shoot an expanding broadhead. Just my 2 cents.
I can't imagine a good fixed blade "ANYTHING" bouncing off a bull at realistic ranges. Even with 45lbs on a modern bow.
Maybe hit a shoulder and fell out when the bull ran.
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mrelk
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You need to look at the physics of a broadhead and not just how pretty or wicked they are. Take a simple engineering plumb. It looks like a metal top we used to play with as kids. Place this plumb on a round of wood and try to split it. The plumb will only be absorbed by the round of wood. Broadheads with round points will act the same way. Now take a splitting wedge designed to split the wood and hit it you will notice the wood splits with very little force behind it. A Bear broadhead works on the same principle. Use it with out the bleeder blade to improve accuracy. Cant the broadhead to 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock to aline with fletching. Your Bear broadheads will shoot exactly the same as your field tips. Just remember not to use the bleeder blade or have it alined on the horizonal or vertical plain because it will cause radical movement. I have had clients hit bulls in the shoulder blade with what I call dart pointed broadheads and break off at the end of the insert, while others have blown through 2 shoulder blades of an elk with a chisel pointed broadhead like the Bear. Just examine the physics of any blade you may consider.
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"I would never shoot an expanding broadhead. Just my 2 cents."
I'll 2nd that--
Muzzy's 125 gr 3 Blade, Montec G5's as a back up.
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Kirt C.
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I'll 2nd that--
Muzzy's 125 gr 3 Blade, Montec G5's as a back up.
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missinMT
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Thunderhead 125's. Flies the truest for me and has performed admirably for me three times in the last six years. There are others out there, but they work for me.
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rackem406
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-08-06 AT 09:49AM (MST)[p]
ArcheryElk,
The friend of mine was a unique situation when he bounced hi arrow off. He was using Rocky Mountain's and the thing that killed him was that he wasn't patient. The bull was quartering away at about 65-70 degrees when he shot. If he would have waited until he came broadside it would have been a different story.
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ArcheryElk,
The friend of mine was a unique situation when he bounced hi arrow off. He was using Rocky Mountain's and the thing that killed him was that he wasn't patient. The bull was quartering away at about 65-70 degrees when he shot. If he would have waited until he came broadside it would have been a different story.
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?Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!?
~George Carlin
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Steelforce Broadheads ... http://www.steelforce.com/ I have bow hunted for over 20 years and have used almost all of the different "styles" ...not brands mind you, but styles. From Bear 142gr.'s to expandables, to dozens of types of replaceable razor heads...
For sheer killing power... and unmatched accuracy... I have Never ever seen anything group like the Steelforce 100's ... Putting your broadhead where you want it to hit is the most important aspect of killing the animal... and then comes pennitration (sp?) The SteelForce line of Broadheads have become the favorite of more than 8 of my hunting buddies in the past 5 years... We have found that our bloodtrails have shortened to less than 1/2 the distance to the downed animal since we've all switched...
The 100gr. heads fly the best, and Do Not...deflect... They group tight like a field point, and will be re-sharpened for free for Life... I have killed 5 deer with the same Head in two years... I will Never Switch heads again!
Steelforce Broadheads ... http://www.steelforce.com/ I have bow hunted for over 20 years and have used almost all of the different "styles" ...not brands mind you, but styles. From Bear 142gr.'s to expandables, to dozens of types of replaceable razor heads...
For sheer killing power... and unmatched accuracy... I have Never ever seen anything group like the Steelforce 100's ... Putting your broadhead where you want it to hit is the most important aspect of killing the animal... and then comes pennitration (sp?) The SteelForce line of Broadheads have become the favorite of more than 8 of my hunting buddies in the past 5 years... We have found that our bloodtrails have shortened to less than 1/2 the distance to the downed animal since we've all switched...
The 100gr. heads fly the best, and Do Not...deflect... They group tight like a field point, and will be re-sharpened for free for Life... I have killed 5 deer with the same Head in two years... I will Never Switch heads again!
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I'm a big fan of the Magnus Stingers. I had shot the 100 gr. Thunderheads for years but just didn't get the performance I liked. The Stingers have done what I've wanted and then some.
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I just started shooting tight point shuttle locks this season. They fly amazingly well and the blades won't break or come out no matter how hard you try. I haven't shot anything with them yet except my target, but a couple errant shots have nailed rocks in the ground behind my target and the broadheads have survived with no problems. I shot Barrie broadheads for years and similar shots (into the ground and bone) produced broken or lost blades.
