Miss Idaho's cold shoulder

Too bad they don't put Rex out of business. From what I read Rex's elk escaped their pen and could be infecting the Yellowstone herd as we speak. What a jackass! Idaho needs to get their head out of their a$$ and quick. I would like to see Rex's daughter though. YEAH BABY!
 
Zigga,

Me too !! Know why they don't have a Miss Ebonics pageant? No one wants to be Miss Idaho.

JB
 
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-06 AT 12:16PM (MST)[p]Infecting Yellowstone elk with what???? Rex is a veterinarian who has regularly maintained health records on his heard and they have never tested positive for any disease (that I have heard of). Maybe the cattle out on the range should be shot because they might pass some disease to the wild bison in that area? Rex is right on this one. His private property was ordered shot for no good reason. Of coarse thats my opinion. Raising elk in Idaho is as LEGAL as raising cattle or horses as of today. Maybe that should change, but Rex is not a criminal for doing what is legal. I understand his daughter feeling that way.
 
UGAhunter,

How about infecting the herd with outside genetics ? Ever thought of that ? I know that matters little to many but it is very important to maintain a particular genetic line. His private property was on land that he did not have legal permit to. Cattle have been shot for the same reason.

Rex is a criminal because it is not legal to run farm elk on public land.

JB
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-06 AT 04:22PM (MST)[p]Rex main problem is that he did not report the escape for like 2 or 3 weeks and a hunter in wy has harvested one of his animals. Rex should have to pay some sort of fine or penalty and I support what the governor did to try and control the problem. I was just hoping my name would have been called for the special hunt. Grain feed elk yum yum
 
Nope, no picture. She seems a bit reclusive!

Your right, we would not want any "large antler" genetics finding their way into the wild elk herds. I've changed my mind ... lets hang him up like a cattle rustler!
 
"large antler" genetics??? I'm more worried about cwd among other things. Is something wrong with the antler genetics now?
 
>Nope, no picture. She seems a
>bit reclusive!
>
>Your right, we would not want
>any "large antler" genetics finding
>their way into the wild
>elk herds. I've changed my
>mind ... lets hang him
>up like a cattle rustler!

You don't know what the genetic's of those elk are anymore than anyone else on this site. I hope someone busts one of those large antlers upside his head. I'd also like to see everyone of those elk that are still loose step just inside the Wyoming border so our folks can finish taking care of the problem...
 
those elk have not been tested acording to the authorities. Rammel never let anyone in to observe the condition of the elk or their enclosures. And as far as infecting wild elk is concerned, the only way to test for some of the diseases (cronic wasting) is to sample the dead animals brain tissue which to my knowledge has not ever been done on those elk. Even if those elk are not cronic waste carriers, they are genetically modified (in the sense that they are crossed with European Red Deer) and can pass that on to wild Yellowstone elk. This isn't to say that I don't feel that the killing of his "private property" is the best course of action... it is the only one left in this situation, as Rammel did not try to re-capture his elk (or did so unsuccessfully) for a month or two I believe. So are you saying that you would rather let Rammel's elk wander at will and potentially (whether through unknown disease transmission or through genetic dilution)wreck the purest strain of Rockie Mountain Elk we have? No matter who you side with on this particular issue, no on is comming out smelling like roses on this one unfortunately.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-03-06 AT 04:09PM (MST)[p]Trying to round them up could have traumatized them also. The only safe way to do it would have been with tranquilizers and trucks or helicopters to get them back to the ranch. If you start chasing them on horses or ATV's they will run until they die from exhaustion. They are not like beef cattle that can be herded conventionally. That's why they are in a high fence environment to begin with. I do agree with the vet - it is his property and he should have been allowed to keep on trying to retrieve them through all necessary means. The governor just ran rough shod right over him.

UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
Tranquilizers, trucks and helicopters is the reason he didn't go after them right away. That would have worked but I doubt he wanted to foot the bill for it. CHACHING$$$!! I doubt the Governor cared about any safe way to round them up, he just wanted them off public property. It sounds like he had his chance to do the right thing.
 
The issues have been drawn very clearly on this. The dumba$$ let genetically hybridized elk run loose where they will no doubt mix with the pure strain of rocky mountain elk in the densest concentration of rocky mountain elk on the planet. The personal wealth of this individual is a much less significant issue than the future of the rocky mountain elk herd. That is what is at issue here. And for those who are inclined to take a soft hearted view of this guy because it involves "his private property," ask yourself why this idiot did not take more pains to care for his private property and maintain his fences so these animals didn't escape in the first place and why he didn't promptly take action to recover this property when it broke out?
 
You can't even find these elk with helicopters due to the thick timber in the area. No way to herd them with ATV's. Rammel's ideal was to build temporary catch pens and bait them with corn and molassis (sp).

Seems there were 2 options for the state:

1) do nothing and let him keep trying to bait the elk into pens

or

2) have a hunt and shoot them.

If your cattle get out on public lands w/o a permit you are in big trouble. The gov't can round them up and sell them off without paying you anything. Just like what is happening now.

The biggest issues are that he did not inform the Dept of Ag (who regulates these types of farms) and that it was (only) a 200 acre enclosure and he really didn't know how long the fence had been compromised.
 

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