How did the southern rac vote

[cantkillathing]

I am wondering how the southern rac meeting went, and how they voted on the management bull hunt? Does anyone know, if so let us know, I will be at the SE meeting to see what happens there.
Thanks,

 

[cantkillathing]

Come on, someone should know how Southern Utah RAC voted on the issue.

 

[ELKOHOLIC]

Alot of people was against the youth hunt as it was proposed. The RAC seemed surprised at the changes from what they previosly talked about. SFW supported the hunt if it truly was a management hunt where there was not a choice to shoot anything else. They also stated that if a six point was shot on this hunt, the DWR would need to be contacted and the animal would be confiscated.

There was also a lot of talk about the Dedicated Hunter Program and proposed changes that included putting a cap on how many can hunt each region (that was rejected)and only being able to pick to seasons instead of three. It was also mentioned that you should have to do the projects in the region you selected. Hope thats accurate.

 

[antlerrick]

Wasn't one of the main purposes of the Dedicated Hunter program to provide more opportunity for those hunters willing to buy into the program and provide donated time to various projects? I can't see what it matters that they can hunt 1, 2, or all 3 seasons, as they can only harvest 2 bucks, over the 3 year program period.
How did the voting go on those proposed changes?
I have been planning on attending that RAC, but ended up having a small surgical procedure and was unable to go.
Sounds like the SFW in working to keep the management hunt, truly a management hunt...I applaud their stand on this matter.

 

[AWHOLELOTTABULL]

They need to make it tougher to be a dedicated hunter. For those people that actually do quality projects...Thank you. You deserve to hunt any area in the state and all three seasons. There are a lot of DH's that do what they have to just to get by and complain every step of the way. They are the first in line to get their cards signed and the first to hit the door even if it's not time to leave. A lot of hunters go into this program thinking it's an easy way to get to hunt like the old days. Make them earn the right to hunt 3 seasons.

As for the youth hunt. I support it 100% if it is really a management hunt. Take a bull with 5 points per side or less or don't shoot one at all. I don't aggree with the option of taking a trophy bull and losing your points or taking a management bull and keeping your points. I don't mind the youth drawing the hunt and maintaining points but it needs to be a management hunt only.

It's always an adventure!!!

 

[PleaseDear]

I am strongly considering doing the Dedicated Hunter.

If they had a Dedicated Hunter on elk I would for sure do it.

I think they should focus on keeping our Utah earned money in Utah for hunting and not having so very many of us spending it in Idaho, Wyo., and Colo. every fall.

I don't mind doing projects or doing volunteer work at all.

Youth hunts are just another one of those politically correct things to do... I'm not for it nor against it...

Robb

 

[HuntElk4Fun_]

There is a huge outcry for opportunity and a huge opposition to keep the trophy units, etc. It's a fine line. Isn't this the perfect chance to bring opportunity into the picture? As much as I'm anxious for better youth opportunities in Utah to grow the future of hunting, I think this hunt should be open to everyone.

ODDNUT1
Kirt C.
Hunt Odds.com

 

[Antler1]

LAST EDITED ON Nov-11-06 AT 12:48PM (MST)[p]I was at the RAC meeting and most there supported the youth hunt as long as it is restricted to 5 point or less. When it was brought up to make the rifle season 9 days so the youth could have two weekends the same people were against that proposal. I had a hard time deciding if they were for youth or not.

I think youth hunts are great but I doubt they will be the reason the most kids take up hunting. Interest in hunting starts long before they are of age to get a tag and is usually passed down from one generation to the next. Taking kids hunting, scouting or just shooting targets will be what makes hunters.

We also had a DWR officer that retired last year that went to each elementary school and taught hunters safety to the fifth grade students. I can't think of a better recruiting tool to get kids interested.

 

[AWHOLELOTTABULL]

I agree with you Antler1 with a little bit to add. I do think it is important for kids to have the opportunity to harvest an animal as soon as they can. When my daughter shot her first antelope I was a little worried about how she would feel after the fact. When that goat hit the dirt she jumped up and did the victory dance and you could hear her all the way back to Utah. You just don't get those kinds of ingrained feelings from target shooting and hunting with someone else. I support any increased opportunity for youth.


It's always an adventure!!!

 

[hunter12]

DH is a joke! It putts way to many hunters in the field. The last few years archery hunt has been a joke. Way to many people. It would be alot better if there was a cap on each area. The southern unit getts hit to hard. To many people to even have a good hunt.

 

[MBM]

I archery hunt the Southern region and I don't know where you guys are seeing the crowds but it is not in the area I have been hunting. This year I never saw anyone except people in my own group. There sure has been an increase in the number of guys hunting off ATV's but I don't see the increased pressure out hiking around.

Mark

 

[archery01]

I agree with a management hunt (5pt. or smaller). I also think that any kid that draws should have to write a five page essay on game management. Our youth are given lots of opportunity, but I think that they need to be educated about this great sport as much or maybe more than they need opportunity to kill animals. If they had to write an essay maybe they will learn a little about why this hunt is being offerd and not just consider it another youth opportunity.

I believe that any kid that is still hunting in to his twenties and later, will do so regardless of these special hunts.

 

[Wapiti]

>I archery hunt the Southern region
>and I don't know where
>you guys are seeing the
>crowds but it is not
>in the area I have
>been hunting. This year I
>never saw anyone except people
>in my own group. There
>sure has been an increase
>in the number of guys
>hunting off ATV's but I
>don't see the increased pressure
>out hiking around.
>
>Mark

Boy Mark you must be hunting off the beaten path, definitly not in a more traditional area.
I've been archery hunting for many years and since the inception of the dedicated hunter program and now in conjunction with a statewide archery tag the south has been getting worse each year as far as hunting presure is concerned. We use to hunt down by Beaver but the place was over run in the space of one year. We then switched back to the Pavant and now it is over run. Both areas use to provide good hunting opportunites with little pressure. We now are looking to go elsewhere next year.