Say goodbye to Paris.

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We out! The US was to contribute $100 billion a year and had the most drastic cuts in carbon of all of the countries. Nothing to reduce China or India. Just another Obama redistribution plan for American wealth. Here is the schedule for building additional dirty coal plants in India:

Table 2: Summary statistics for proposed coal plants in India (May 2012)
Status # of Plants Capacity (MW) Annual Tons of CO2
Proposed 133 157,122 929,169,540
Early development 114 157,002 928,462,853
Advanced development 58 66,220 391,605,267
Construction 109 87,122 515,213,441
Newly commissioned (since 1/1/2010) 62 37,378 221,042,309
Deferred 30 50,270 297,281,739
Cancelled 19 22,420 132,585,172
Unconfirmed 20 24,685 145,979,704
Uncertain 6 14,660 86,694,854
Total 551 616,879 3,648,034,879
 
This is good, now we join the other two most respected forward thinking 3rd world leaders in denial . Nicaragua and Syria that's good company.












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BYE-BYE to all the F'N Stimulus Money Obama double Wasted on nothing more than F'N Study!

Can't wait for dude to CHIME in with his BS Excuses & Support for His Black little worthless Buddy!











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Too late.
 
Love it glad that hoax is out of the way but wait Leonardo Dicaprio worked so hard helping Obama out with his climate change project. HAHA it's a good day to live in the USA.
 
Now Trump needs to dump the UN and turn the building into a nice hotel. Tired of all other countries milking us dry.
 
What difference does it make to the atmosphere if pollution is released in China or wherever or here? It was a stupid feel good agreement that had no enforcement provisions. It would just punish the nations that decide to comply.
 
When they first started this BS here n the USA!

We Hauled Who knows how many Truck Loads of Hazardous just across the Border in to Mexico & Torched it there!

The Wind drifted the Contaminants Right back to us!

But Our SMART Presidents knew Best,Right?








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Then a real leader would make a deal to fix it.


Denial only shows ignorance westernwhines.













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What'Ya gonna do Now dude?

Inhale?

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Trump withdraws from Paris Agreement, aka as the Screw America Agreement. World leaders and the left are understandably upset.

Trump said he'll go back when a more reasonable deal can be made because we only have 10 years to act before it's too late to save the planet. Oh wait, that's what they said 13 years ago.
 
Maybe Trump will Pardon the Diesel Brothers!








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A good leader would negotiate a new deal? That's the dumbest statement I've read in a long time. Did you even listen to the POTUS say that he would be willing to sit down and renegotiate an agreement with other world leaders? They immediately rejected this notion of course because it would mean that they wouldn't be able to milk us of our wealth.

Nemont should be ecstatic with this since his grandchildren won't be forced to send their hard earned money to enrich the lives of other countries.

This was nothing more than a massive redistribution of wealth and I commend Trump for going against Ivanka and Jared in pulling us from this crap.
 
One of the reasons Merkel is pissed at Trump. Under the Paris accord, the U.S. lost ground on manufacturing and Germany gained ground and started selling more to the U.S.
Trump bowing out is going to upset her apple cart and she faces a tough re-election this coming Sept. where she and her party may lose majority control.
let her whine and cry we do not need them sucking off of the U.S.

RELH
 
Let's TRASH this World!

Everybody else is!









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Yes, who needs this planet the rapture will be upon us soon. and if that doesn't happen who cares it won't effect me in my lifetime. so phuk it right good republicans ?


Trump is a bump in the road. in a few years the radical lib who replaces him can make a doozy of a deal to replace the Paris one. the voters back it.



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Somebody probably checked in to see How GAWD-DAMNED much money Obama Flat Ass Wasted on Global Warming Study(Just Study!)and said F'it,This Ain't gonna do!







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Like one of the COAL ROLLERS Said:

Don't Worry about it!

It came out of the Ground!

And We're putting it back on the Ground!


Eventually it'll Sink Back in & We can Re-Use it!







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Just from an environmental perspective, we should buy American. Stuff will cost more so less will be produced. Production will go down. Third world countries will be kept third world with no income flow from the USA. They won't have the money to have a heavy carbon footprint.

The thing that is stupid is producing more low quality unnecessary crap overseas where all the climate change stuff is ignored other than in words and forcing our to compete on an unfair market with taxes and regulations just to produce more greenhouse gas overseas? Do we really need a new IPhone every year, or is paying a fair market price to produce new ones less often to save the environment a better approach?
 
What will the white trash who elected Trump say when they go to Walmart and they have to pay triple for American made ?







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They won't be able to buy it, which means the landfill dumps will get a break.
 
I don't know. I voted for Gary Johnson.....

But honestly, Trumps USA first campaign promises were actually more environmentally friendly on a deeper level than status quo Hillary's. After watching Hillary's blaming the system (DNC) that she sold her soul to, even if Trump F's everything up, I'm just glad that we only have to occasionally have to see her on the news whining. At least Trump is entertaining.

The most insightful and best political analysis I ever say was a brief clip of a mad person on a news broadcast over 40 years ago I. Oakland..., "Dey promises us dis! Dey promises us dat! Bull$hit!"
 
OhcoCinco Peso boy exactly what was man doing 2.4 million years ago to cause the last 5 ice ages?

Ignorance is denial right.
 
Ummmm.....duhhhh

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Trump is trying to remember who besides the Koch brothers told him global warming is no big deal.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-ho...-climate-data-disputed-authors-200714240.html



The climate is always changing. we're just making it change a hell of a lot faster.

Let me give you an example that maybe a Trump supporter would understand. you're getting fatter all the time, damn it. but when you eat two boxes of moon pies and 6 bags of fried pork rinds every day you get a lot fatter a lot faster. make sense now? just because something is changing doesn't mean your actions don't matter. would pictures help?









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RE: Ummmm.....duhhhh

The climate changes naturally and there is no proof man has an effect on it. Sure has been alot of money wasted lying about it hoping we'll all believe it. We had more snow than we've had in the last 10 yrs. Tell me again how we've changed the climate sh!t for brains. You ought to go shave your head like Katy Perry and put on a romper you soft little Sp3rm burper.
 
Anyone who is over 40 and has been paying attention has been witness to dozens of doomsday scenarios promoted by leading environmental scientists that have failed to come true.

We had the global cooling scare in the 70s.
We had mass starvations forecast.
Peak oil was supposed to have happened 30 years ago.
Water shortages were supposed to have devasted our culture by now.
Overpopulation would lead to the end of humanity as we know it.

Anybody remember the BP oil spill?
That was supposed to devaste fishing in the gulf for decades. Giant oil balls would be washing up on our coasts for a hundred years. A giant oil mass was predicted to stay intact and circulate the oceans decimating ocean life wherever it traveled. One year later fishing was great and there were no signs that anything ever happened.

Unfortunately, predicting doom and gloom is a way to gain notoriety and funding for scientists. The game is very political.

So, what about our latest global warming scare?
Well, the 72 climate models the UN uses have failed miserably in predicting the weather of the last two decades, so why should we believe what they say when they have been wrong so many times?

Are humans influencing the weather on this planet? I would suppose so. Common sense seems to dictate that a few billion people on a planet will have some effect on the climate. However, trying to quantify that effect is just not near as easy as these scientists are claiming.

The other problems are that even if you believe that humans are having a dramatic negative effect on global temperature, what do you do about it? Lowering CO2 emissions may or may not produce a desireable effect. It may be too late. It will definitely be VERY costly! Would it be cheaper to deal with the effects of the warming rather than throwing money at the problem in a vain attempt to stop it? These are questions that need be answered before we spend trillions attempting to fix a problem that may not even exist.

Bottom line is that there have always been scientists promoting doom and gloom as a way to increase their prestige and line their pockets. I see no reason to treat this particular theory with any more weight than all the other failed theories that have been promulgated thus far.

If you think I am a fool, well blame these same scientists whose alter you worship at for failing so miserably in their previous declarations of doom.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-02-17 AT 04:20PM (MST)[p]Not sure why all the hysteria and all the back slapping. The Paris accords on climate had zero enforcement mechanism and no real way to make the agreement stick for anyone.

There is a bunch of hysteria that this is the end of the earth but it was projected to lower global temps by a degree over the next century.

In addition the U.S. wasn't committed to spending $100 Billion per yer, our portion was $3 Billion. Not exactly a driver of our debt but hey at least we don't have to pay that. Now if the same concern about my grand children would extend to what really drives our debt then we would be getting somewhere. We all know the fake conservatives don't want to touch their government cheese but pretend somehow Trump pulling out of this unenforceable deal will free the U.S. Economy, total BS.

It is stupid is as stupid does on this one. Trump gets to mark one of his list, it does nothing to the debate, it shows the stupidity of the left and it also shows America cannot be trusted to keep any kind of deal. I guess if you like the chaos then hold onto your hat because America Alone in the world has proven over and over throughout our history to end very badly for the kids who are between the ages of 10 to 15 years old right now. But who really gives a rats ass about them anyway.

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RE: Ummmm.....duhhhh

You're right, maybe if we taxed hard working Americans and gave the money to third world countries while allowing the worst polluters to pollute more, the temperature gods will lower the global temp by half a degree.

I wish idiot "warmers" would just be honest and admit their socialist agenda of redistributing wealth. I mean for Christ sake we were supposed to have major coastal cities flooded already from rising sea levels.
 
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100 billion ..... money laundering
 
$3 Billion and that is what we pay in a year for pen!s pumps for guys on Medicare.

I really give two $hits if Trump pull out of the Paris accords or not. Just don't pretend they matter one way or the other. Or that he did something Terrific and wonderful. Both sides suck on this one and do so in equal amounts.

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Nothing involving 165 countries was only going to cost the US $3 billion....


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Really? You actually believe it was $3 billion? Here is the committment from the developed nations. My bet is it would end up like NATO and the UN and we would pay 70% of the load. The $3 billion was just to jump start the developing nations. Read it and explain:

"Developed countries agreed to continue their commitment to provide $100 billion a year from 2020 until 2025, after which financing will increase."
 
Perhaps but the U.S. wasn't on the hook for the entire amount. Also there was zero ability to force payments if congress decided not to pay.

It truly is a nothing burger that has both sides claiming shyt that isn't close to accurate or true.

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Not on the HOOK ? that's not what Kerry thinks
 
There is global warming you ignorant mouthbreathers, just because it snowed at your house doesn't disprove anything.


The planet is much like your brain dead body, a little bit of a temperature increase does big things. just because you can't fry an egg on your head doesn't mean you don't have a fever.


The facts are what they are. the US just joined the 3rd world in science denial.



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You silly bastard have another swig.
 
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Tell us how all that money is spent would you Mr. know it all? if you think its not a scam you must be butt hurt like all those nations not getting there cut of the money.
 
How come we don't hear about acid rain or the hole in the ozone anymore? Did they give up on those lies? They'll give up on this lie too at some point and start a new one.
 
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Dude is a little Soar that Trump Ain't Gonna Waste the 'Study Only" Money that his Buddy Obama did!

Pay Attention dude!

We're All For Cleaning up the World!

Lot's of the Pollution shoulda Never Happened!

I've Said for 40+ Years Passenger Cars Could & Should Be Running on Natural Gas!

That Wouldn't Fix it all!

But it Coulda Helped a Bunch for 40+ years!

It'll Happen when it Absolutely F'N Has to!

STUDY My F'N Ass!

Let's Either Do Something Positive!

Or Get The Hell away From Wasting More Money!

OK!

I'm Ready for your BS Excuses!

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For real ? do you mouthbreathers think maybe things like low Sulphur diesel, coal scrubbers and reducing chlorofluorocarbons helped those problems? we did something and it helped, nobody said the problem is gone it's just not as big as the problems you're in denial of now.


Why don't you retards study up. nobody said the Paris deal couldn't be improved on they said it's a starting place in an urgent global crisis. nobody can hear you as long as your heads are up your azz so maybe this country isn't ready to be part of the solution yet anyway.



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LAST EDITED ON Jun-03-17 AT 10:51AM (MST)[p]Careful there deniers!

Now you're questioning Dude's faith.

He believes in his heart, so that makes it his religion.

Don't trash someone's religion. He wouldn't trash yours.
 
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GEEZUS!

HOW GAWD-DAMNED Much money has been wasted on Study?

Answer the Question?










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Other then leading his business to four bankruptcies, what has Trump ever led in his entire life?
 
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Exactly. He has no business leading the world in climate change. It's costly enough without him.
 
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He's Led Himself to a few Gold Diggers!

Thought you'd know that?









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Looks like it really helped his approval numbers. since the majority of votes in all states supported the pact how could you have guessed ?




It makes you wonder if Trump doesn't know he's screwed so he's doing what he can to help what few friends he has before the rest of his teeth are pulled. or he gets the boot.



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If the liberal press would be truthful and let those people know just how much the Paris accord hamstrung this county, those poll numbers would change.

RELH
 
Dude either you are a dumb one or you tried a fast one. Several of those CEOs work for firms that promote alternative energy and probably would make money by the regulations required by the Paris accord doing away with fossil fuels.
Other words D.S. they have a conflict of interest involving greed and money. Come to think of it, they are just like you when it comes to greed and money.

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-04-17 AT 04:38PM (MST)[p]Ha ha ha ha ha ! you never fail to come through. maybe a couple of those CEO's make money off it. so riddle me this, which companies are making money off denial and who is funding the denial band wagon? see a pattern here? you're throwing rocks from your glass house again.


Your orange hero just peed in your pool again, leaving you standing there alone with a dumb look on your face. think he's setting himself up to do damage control ? ya think ?


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Trump said "a lot of it is a hoax." He's looking for a more reasonable deal for the US. He didn't say drill YNP or burn tires.

I heard there will be hundreds of protests around the US. If they all stayed home instead of burning all that fossil fuel and making all those cardboard posters, they could save a forest and lower the sea levels 1/4".
 
Dude you are the one with the dumb look on your face. Too bad all you can find is B.S. Go back into your dark cave like a good mushroom and let those progressive bent wrist liberals feed you some more manure. You seem to like it. Must go good with your Crown Royal.

I have a question. Have you been a dumb sucker all your life?

RELH
 
I love it when you clowns run off with your tail between your legs. RELH is lost for words so he goes back to his default blabber.


A strong leader would have negotiated a better deal if it needed to be done. leave the table only once all options are exhausted. a real leader doesn't flip the world off and run home bragging only to do a heel spin a couple days later. like most things he underestimated the backlash and now he's setting the stage to ask for another chance.












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So dude?

You're Saying Your Buddy Obama made miracles happen while He was in it with Paris?

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Dude you just proved how darn stupid you really are. How do you just jump into negotiating a better deal when you are dealing with leaders that do not want to give up the golden goose that lays the golden eggs. In case you can not figure out who the goose is, it is the U.S.
They are not going to enter into negotiations until they find the goose has fled their cage which was what Trump did by pulling out.
Give them time to think about what they lost in Trump's move, and they may come around and ask Trump to enter into negotiations where he can possibly cut a better deal then what Obama agreed to. Hell, Germany and France bent Obama over the rail and he was too stupid to see it due to his liberal enviro beliefs. China and India laughed at Obama all the way to the bank.
Now Trump has tossed them a carrot to let them know he may be interested in a new deal being negotiated as you referred to as doing a heel spin. He put the ball in their court by doing that. I bet you Merkel will make an effort to re-negotiate due to her coming up on a tough election this fall.

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-04-17 AT 11:02PM (MST)[p]I will bet you that No European country will enter into new negotiations with us on the Paris accords. $5,000 linterest you? China has offered enough already on the other side of the deal to put them in the leadership seat that Trump abandoned. What do you say? $5,000 that no European country tries to make a new climate deal with Trump?
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-04-17 AT 10:23PM (MST)[p]Keep your bet, I prefer that we do not enter into another agreement of the Paris accords. I do not believe that man kind is that much responsible for climate change. Just look back into history concerning different ice age changes and changing to warmer climates in cycles.
I am tempted because Merkel needs the good press for her upcoming election, but I do not have any faith in liberals like her as they are unpredictable at best.

Trump was smart to do the back heel as Dude called it. This way he can argue that he made an effort to open talks on a better deal for the U.S. Good political move on his part.
RELH
 
One thing about RELH , he knows better than to bet on a bullchitter . and he knows a bullchitter when he sees one in the mirror.



It was a sad day for America when China took our role as world leader and Trump butt scooted off the stage like a wormy coyote .







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Dude, China has been a world leader since we took it in the shorts on trade agreements starting under Clinton and really jumped to the forefront when we had that jelly backed President Obummer in office.
At lease we will stop paying China millions as part of the Paris accord and them telling us to stuff it as they were not going to stop polluting and hamstring their manufacturing capabilities.

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Maybe China will Clean their F'N Act Up!

NOT!!!

Not Only that!

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None of the climate projections by the scientists in 2000 has come to pass so why would we believe anything they say? That crowd is totally political and nothing to do with science. Nemont is right that the Euro trash will refuse to negotiate and I am glad about that. Lets see which countries jump in and pay the load we were being saddled with.
 
We're setting records every year and it's going exactly like they say it will. just because some calculations from the last century were off we should ignore the facts as they are today?

Priceless.














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