My original post was not ment to attack certain people or groups,I read the article and agree with his views,Yes drummond the big picture is more than just this part of the article,your point well taken.What I get out of this article is what Val talks about the MODERN CRAZE!!!!!In my opinion these are things that are leading to the demize of the one thing we all are passionate about here on this site...Some we have control over others we dont:Mother nature,predators,loss of winter range,poaching,highways,unethical winter range habits,drought,advanced technology,atv,planes,late tags,wolves in wyoming,media,books,mags....the list goes on,these are things that a trophy buck faces every day of his life,They are products of the world we all live in,Is there a solution?I feel that there needs to be change soon for the animal we all enjoy so much.If you look at what has happened in just the last 10 years I think you will understand the point here.Most of the units across the west are in a slump.Are mule deer able to make a come back?Where are we going to be ten years from now?Can mule deer handle all of these blows,These are the things that in my opinion Val is talking about,I am as passionate about big bucks as the next guy,I enjoy this site,the pics the articles.My intent for the post was not to turn this into a public pissn match,I just see VALS point of view.I liked your post muleyguy,and fin little....just my .02 Paul Pennie