Tax Plan = Joke

BFD. 200-400 k tax payers will see a difference most everyone else won't much.
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Is that "won't much" 100 dollars or is it 1200 dollars off their yearly taxes. Won't much can be slanted to be nothing or more then expected.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-27-17 AT 04:59PM (MST)[p]http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gop-tax-plan-assures-rising-national-debt-forever-2017-09-27

What does it do to the debt?

or is debt a great thing now?

There are zero models that show we can grow our economy enough to deal with our debt. We have to cut spending and Trump has already said we can't touch the biggest spending programs: Defense, Medicare and Social security.

Nemont
 
We should raise everyone's rate to 95% and let our government spend like drunken monkeys!


#livelikezac
 
>LAST EDITED ON Sep-27-17
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>There are zero models that show
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>debt. We have to
>cut spending and Trump has
>already said we can't touch
>the biggest spending programs: Defense,
>Medicare and Social security.
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>Nemont
Don't forget welfare and Obama care.
 
It's Trumpcare now. since he didn't replace it as promised he owns it.

There is nothing in this plan that will make a noticeable difference in anything except the debt. and this is BEFORE it's scaled back to where it can pass.

Just another con he can't deliver on.











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>It's Trumpcare now. since he
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>he owns it.
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>There is nothing in this plan
>that will make a noticeable
>difference in anything except the
>debt. and this is
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>on.
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ok Hillary
 
Don't like that CHUMP ? you were promised a GT500 and if you get anything it will be a '72 Pinto.

What gives you confidence? the wall Mexico built or the Obamacare repeal ?


This tax plan is a joke even with all the frills in place.










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> Don't like that CHUMP ?
>you were promised a
>GT500 and if you
>get anything it will
>be a '72 Pinto.
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>What gives you confidence? the
>wall Mexico built or the
>Obamacare repeal ?
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>This tax plan is a joke
>even with all the frills
>in place.
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My wife had a 74 pinto and we drove it too Disneyland on our Honeymoon.
 
So, doesn't seem like the " middle class miracle " is going over too well.

Does " miracle " mean pile debt on your kids now days ?











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I guess it is winning if the conservatives only add $5.8 Trillion to the national debt and not as much as that no good Obama.

We have had basically free money for years now but this tax cut is going to magically stimulate sustained growth? Can anyone please show me any economic models that show we can grow enough to "pay for" these tax cuts?

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/28/5-trillion-question-for-trump-tax-plan-how-to-pay-for-it.html

Every model shows, that is credible, shows a far easier path. Cut spending now, keep revenues steady and meet in the middle.

This plan does neither but the Trump supporters don't give two shyts about the debt as long as the guy has an R after his name, debt is a grand thing and deficits don't matter.

Nemont
 
> So, doesn't seem like
>the " middle class miracle
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>going over too well.
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>Does " miracle " mean
>pile debt on your kids
>now days ?
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not at all just have them play professional sports.
 
Ross Perot said:

Let's Zero this F'N Debt out and Start over!

There's No way to Pay it off!

And No Way We can!

I'd Have to Agrre with Him!

We Shoulda Zeroed the F'R out!

Started Over!

And Never Dig Ourselves in to a Hole like that again!

But Obama woulda just Re-Dug the F'N Hole!









Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


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Yep Obama spent. Trump is going to spend too but since Trump is as fake as you it's all good
 
>Yep Obama spent. Trump is going
>to spend too but since
>Trump is as fake as
>you it's all good


Hey Nemont?

How F'N Far you gotta go back to have a New President that didn't Spend more than the Previous President?









Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


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So if Trump doesn't spend a lot more it's all good right ?


Republicans have been reduced to two factions, fake conservatives and batchit crazy bible thumpers.









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LAST EDITED ON Oct-02-17 AT 09:55AM (MST)[p]>Hey Nemont?
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>How F'N Far you gotta go
>back to have a New
>President that didn't Spend more
>than the Previous President?

So that makes Trump golden in your eyes? If that is your excuse then why do you blame Obama for everything? He just did what the guy before him did? Or are you just like every other phony, a big hypocrite who doesn't give a $hyt about the debt when it is a Republican government?

Why does it matter who is in the White House if they all just rack up debt? Why should anyone give a Shyt about electing either side?

Do you know that zeroing out the debt and defaulting would destroy your medicare and social security?

Nemont
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-11-17 AT 07:41PM (MST)[p]"We should raise everyone's rate to 95% and let our government spend like drunken monkeys!"

They called them the greatest generation, the silent generation, the generations of builders. Our birth parents who gave forth to the Boomers. They built, we enjoyed.

Without realizing it DW"s failed attempt at humor actually describes the economic environment that propelled the U.S. economy after World War II. Hence, the Baby Boomer generation. Damns, mass-transportation, highway, and energy systems, sound familiar?

Look at our rate of debt, simple math, what you take in vs what goes out. Your failed humor DW is actually a solution the only difference is it should be an increase in the $10+ Million and above the class instead of the 200-400K bracket.

Keep in mind that is taxable income, that's what left after you and your accountant write-off or defer everything under the sun, that is taxable income.
 
Larry Lindsey (left), the former director of the National Economic Council under George W. Bush, says he's willing to bet $60,000 with liberal economists Paul Krugman (middle) and Larry Summers (right) that their doomsday predictions about President Trump?s tax reform proposals will turn out to be wrong. (Reuters)

A former top adviser to then-President George W. Bush is daring liberal economists slamming Republican tax plans in the op-ed pages of the New York Times and Washington Post to put some real money on the line.


Larry Lindsey, former director of the National Economic Council under Bush, says he's willing to bet $60,000 with Larry Summers and Paul Krugman that their doomsday predictions on President Trump?s tax overhaul turn out to be wrong.

?Rather than go for academic name-calling, I propose a more market-oriented approach: a wager,? Lindsey wrote in a memo to clients, which was obtained by Fox News.


Asked about the wager during a Thursday appearance on CNBC, Larry Summers wouldn't take the bet. (REUTERS/Joshua Roberts)

In the memo, Lindsey sought to rebut Summers and Krugman?s recent criticism of the GOP plan.

Summers is a former director of the National Economic Council under former President Barack Obama. Krugman is a liberal columnist for The New York Times.

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Makes you wonder who is telling the truth and who is slanting for political reasons. At least Lindsey was willing to put up some serious money and Larry Summers backed out taking the bet.

RELH



'They?re going to lose. And they know it.'
- Larry Lindsey, Bush economic adviser
Disputing Summers and Krugman?s gloomy predictions about what would happen if the tax package is passed, Lindsey wrote that he believes economic growth will be ?far higher? under Trump than Obama, income inequality will decline and ?real wages for ordinary workers? will rise.
 
Safe bet because Trumps plans aren't going to happen.

A token in policy change will be the best that comes from yet another broken promise. and that will probably have to be by executive order.


#failing president














Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Congress should approve a bad plan just ' cause ?

The GOP congress would LOVE to approve something. anything. the orange stain just cannot provide any leadership they can support.


# failing president














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Ochoke on a dong do you ever get tired of listening to yourself??? Typical liberal find something and pry on it to get a rise out of people. You can't even make a comment on the fact the economy grew more in the last 2 months than it did in a full year under your hero.
 
Not relevant dipchit.


But if you're so confident in your orange squeeze them take my bet on his performance . com'on coward I'm calling you out.
















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If I ever had a taker I wouldn't always be throwing bets out would I ? you people are disingenuous hacks.

Trump's economic performance. let's bet on whether Trump can raise the DOW more than Obama did. yes or no.

Or if that scares you we can bet on his reelection, gaining seats in the midterms, building the wall and Mexico paying for it, giving us ALL " fabulous " health care, eliminating the debt by the end of his second term as he said he would, reducing the debt ....hell just about anything he promised.



















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The only reason a lot of things he proposes aren't getting passed, is out of spite. Career politicians are jealous some celebrity business man beat them at their own game.
 
If you look at the polls and Trumps tweets he's beating them alright. right into the ground next to his deep hole.

So, does the massive deficit in this plan matter to you? or ae you like the rest of the fake conservatives and debt is now super duper great ?








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Massive deficits are never good, I guess the only way to fix the deficit if this plan goes through would be to cut wasteful spending, and hope the economy continues to grow, putting more people in the work force which will make up for the deficit.
 
Loos like the " cut cut cut " plan would be a tax hike for me. the $10,000 limit on property taxes and the loss of the state tax deduction will not be offset by the cuts in the bill.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...t-rules/ar-AAulpyD?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp


I wonder how long it took the orange stain with his crayons to come up with such an imaginative name for this farce ? cut cut cut, sounds like a pre-schooler . oh yeah, and don't forget the fabulous debt that comes with it that's special too.
















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What I saw on the local news today, it will help the poor to the middle class worker in lowering their taxes. If that is the case, it will go over big with the average voter.
If it makes you Dude taking a hit in your wallet, that is another big plus for the tax reform.
I like the reduction part on home mortgage rates from 1 million down to 500 thousand. That will still leave about 85-90% voters getting that break. It will hurt rich folks in areas like New York city, certain cities in CA. OH BOY! Most of them are Democrats. Looks like Trump found a way to stick it to them while helping out the average working voter.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-02-17 AT 08:21PM (MST)[p]In OR we have no sales tax. so property tax and state income tax funds the state, which we have a surplus this year.

I'll save 3% like most americans which won't begin to offset the loss of our deductions.

Not that I need fret much. this bill as written is going down just like everything else the chit master has failed on.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/opinions/trump-tricky-tax-plan-opinion-mccaffery/index.html







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
It does seem kind of silly to do tax cuts to create jobs. Nobody in America wants a job.

Tax the rich and give the money to the poor would play better and be a sure winner.

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No different what the Democrats have done here in CA. They allowed the smaller gas tax, 12 cents per gallon, go in effect this month. The big jump of 72 cents per gallon does not go into effect until 2020. Gee! I wonder why.
If you really want to see how the Democrat party will screw over the average working person, from poor to rich, just look to CA. where the Democrats have been in majority power since 1972. They even taxed liberal FTW to where he fled the state for cheaper taxes in Idaho.

RELH
 
You never said if you were good with getting hosed with this tax bill before you wondered off?

And gas taxes, that's coming too.









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Dude our best bet is that they keep tossing this bill back and forth and hopefully come up with one that will help the middle class working person. There will be elements at the fringe of both parties that will not be happy with the final product.
RELH
 
Wow. the orange chit stain's one and only chance at a win during his first year and nobody even wants to talk about it?


Where are the cheerleaders?











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