Vegas Sets New Record

Reports say he had 10 rifles. 223 and 308. Ruger no. 1's and Winchester 88's ? I doubt it but RELH will have a reason they would have killed just as many people.

If there was a motive his brother says he has no idea what it would have been.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>One of the reports said he
>was a licensed hunter.
>How many of you are
>licensed?


All of us. The report was he had a hunting license from Alaska. I guess from here on out we're all suspects in msnbc's eyes.


#livelikezac
 
Not blaming the guns retard. blaming the azzhats that gave him access to this type of gun.

If he had 10 bolt or lever guns we'd be talking about a mass shooting with multiple deaths. or would he even had done it with those rifles knowing his success would be so much less impressive? as it is we now have 58 dead so far and 515 wounded. how many bodies less would it take to matter?


Gun deaths are a fact we have to live with. I like most americans accept this. but if reasonable concessions will minimize the number that's a price myself and most americans will pay. time and the body count will shove this down the NRA's throat.

This time it was an average white guy killing " normal " white people. this time it hit home . now we wait for the next blood bath and hope it's easier to ignore.


Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Yep NRA is to blame! Let's ban air planes so 911 can't happen again. Typical retard drunken moron you are ! How many were killed by planes that day little man? You need to slow down on the whiskey and go do some thing productive ! Playing on your computer all day every day isn't productive little man.
 
Now that I read it, my question seems kind of dumb. It seems like they could have said "hunter" instead of "licensed hunter" and dropped the qualifier. I save "licensed" for when I'm talking about a Journeyman, or Contractor. Most places all you need to be a licensed hunter is an address.
 
I'm productive enough I can afford to do whatever I want retard. why don't you put your paper hat back on and STFU before the fries get over cooked.

Do they sell planes designed to strike high rise buildings? if they did would the NRA lobby for their manufacturers? they do make guns designed to kill people. the ones mass shooters prefer 90% of the time. and the NRA works for their manufacturers.

Again, how many bodies is your man card worth to you? I really don't want to know do I ....








Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
A total ban and confiscation of all guns might help there. is that what you want? I don't like it but if gang bangers won't stop shooting each other that's not a cause I'm willing to give up my guns for.


Now reducing gun deaths like last night by giving up the man card guns that's I can see. I suppose you can't see the difference.





Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Look bumb azz you can't stop or control gun violence with gun control. Go back to wiping your azz with your daddy's money . You know nothing except how to drink and pass out dip chit. Stop acting like you know something or care about anything other than your own peyote smoking whiskey drinking arse. Your are a little coward hiding behind a computer. I am done wasting my valuable time today ending your BS. Go take another hit.
 
> A total ban and
>confiscation of all guns might
>help there. is that
>what you want?
>I don't like it but
>if gang bangers won't stop
>shooting each other that's not
>a cause I'm willing to
>give up my guns for.
>
>
>
>Now reducing gun deaths like last
>night by giving up the
>man card guns that's I
>can see. I suppose you
>can't see the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
2 ton trucks work well without the man card, just look at Europe.
 
" people wanted too much money to come shoot up my ammo for me " this is a problem we've all faced right? I hate it when I have all that ammo and I just need it gone.


I absolutely phukin love it. now I understand why we need Rambo guns, 100 round drums and mods to make them into machine guns. maybe I'll join the NRA again.







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Ocho when is the deadline for criminals to turn in fully automatic weapons? I'm sure they are willing to give them up LMAO. So why should law abiding gun owners with proper licensing give them up if bad guys won't? You have got to be the biggest cheese D##K on this forum. Take another bong rip. Blame the object and NRA that'll solve it.
 
dude's gonna Blame the Gun, of F'N course!

The Day they Ban em & Try & Take them From us,Let us Know how that Turns out dude!









Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


90087hankjr.jpg
 
What will solve it?

How many people need to be killed in mass shootings to start a serious debate on both sides and then come to some solutions? At some point there will be enough people disgusted by the increasing number of dead and wounded that politicians will decide what is best for you and do you trust them to get it right?

The political firestorm will make even the NRA ineffective if there is not a serious attempt to have an adult discussion about trying to reduce the number of shootings and how lethal they are becoming.

I don't believe in giving up guns but there are some accessories out there that make these shooting more lethal, more gruesome and add to the body count. That fact is going to turn public opinion away form the world where the NRA lives.

Nemont
 
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


#livelikezac
 
News flash liberals. There are very good gun laws in place. Another news flash. Bleeding heart liberals don't want to enforce them. Restricted people are illegal drug users, illegals, sellers of illegal narcotics, people convicted of domestic violence, mentally disturbed azz racks. All are restricted from having any guns. Oh ya and convicted felons are restricted. I can tell you how many great guns cases are declined by the Feds in Utah every day ! Ya guns are to blame and we need more gun restrictions. Tog I have no idea how you even suck your own oxygen you are so stupid.
 
Let em' try to take em one of us will sleep in our beds that night and I'm willing to die to defend the freedom of my guns and yours. Not sure the orgeganian would do the same.
 
Banning so called "assault rifles" will not stop killers like the one in Vegas or radical religieous freaks. I can walk into a local pharmacy and purchase a certain item over the counter and mix it with another item I can get off Ebay and make one heck of a bomb.
A large truck into that crowd at 60mph would have about the same effect as that killer with his rifles.
If you want to slow down the normal everyday shootings in our large cities, there is a way to do it that will drop the homicide rate to the basement. Only problem is the liberals in our country will not support it.

It is the old saying. "Use a gun, go to prison" that was tried in areas and proved to be effective. If you use a firearm in the commission of committing a felony crime, you get a mandatory sentence of 5 years in prison just for having a gun in your possesion while committing a shooting, rape, robbery or other felony crime. If you get 4 years for the robbery, at the completion of that 4 years, you must serve the 5 years on top of the years for the robbery. No probation, or parole can be granted for those 5 years.
Needeless to say the liberals are against it for having to build more prisons, being to harsh on a poor criminal that had a bad childhood, and too many minorties are being sentence to prison.

CA. has it for a while and it was proving to be effective until the county District Attorneys found the loop hole in the law that our law makers left there.
A judge could not grant probation or lighter sentence then the five years, the prison parole board could not grant parole on the 5 years, but the D.A. could throw out the gun possesion part and just try the suspect for the felony he committed. They plea bargain the gun possesion charge away to avoid jury trials and the suspect would plead guilty to the robbery knowing he would probably get a lighter sentence and be able to get a early out on parole.

RELH
 
RELH you are exactly right. That is why we try to get these cases to the FEDS. Minimum mandatory sentencing. Restricted people committing felony crimes with guns get a ten year minimum sentence. But like you point out the liberals don't want to see full prisons and these poor picked on criminals locked up forever. Typical liberals they want to have their cake and eat it too.
 
I thought you were done talking to me retard? you made my day so keep your word.

Did I say a ban would fix it all ? it won't. because you goobers have put so many man cards out there any dipchit with a few hundred bucks can buy one . so the only logical thing to do is make sure we have more? dumbphuks.

At this point it looks like we have a 64 year old well off white guy with no criminal history . who are you going to blame if it turns out he bought these guns and whatever else he used legally?

What will be your argument this is acceptable and nobody should be alarmed? chit happens people die and you have the right to get rid of unwanted ammo you can't afford to hire shot up? is that it?

This may not have been avoidable I'll admit that. I will not accept that maybe 40 people would still be alive and maybe 300 or 400 less may be injured has the gun bill not expired in 2004. but again, who gives a FF right ? you didn't know them so no skin off your azz.



Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Talk about retards shouldn't you be ready to pass out ? Hurry take a few more peyote hits and chug another bottle of cheap whiskey ! Then puke all over yourself and sweet dreams ! Home sweet home huh tonto ?
 
You'd think a racist loser like you could come up with something more original. pay more attention at the next klan/Trump rally and come back with something you could be proud of.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
The difference is I'm honest about it. something you've never been accused of.

Go away like you said. you're like an awful fart that lingers.







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
So... the fully automatic gun(s) he used are already illegal and have been for 30+ years and... it's also illegal to kill people but making more ##### illegal will solve the problem?

Just stop it already. Even if you made the platform and the parts illegal there will always be another country or another person who will have them or can make them.

I have an idea!! Why don't we ban drugs too? Oh wait we already did that, never mind we don't have a drug problem in America anymore since we banned them I forgot. My bad.
 
So NeMont?

You're the Smartest Guy in Montana!

You Can Pass all the F'N Laws in the World & You'll Never Stop All the BS!

You gonna OutLaw Knives too?

How Bout Vehicles?

And a Million other Things & Ways that Idiots could Harm You with?

Only the Honest People Will Pay with BS to come!

QUIT BLAMING THE F'N GUNS!



>What will solve it?
>
>How many people need to be
>killed in mass shootings to
>start a serious debate on
>both sides and then come
>to some solutions?
> At some point there
>will be enough people disgusted
>by the increasing number of
>dead and wounded that politicians
>will decide what is best
>for you and do you
>trust them to get it
>right?
>
>The political firestorm will make even
>the NRA ineffective if there
>is not a serious attempt
>to have an adult discussion
>about trying to reduce the
>number of shootings and how
>lethal they are becoming.
>
>I don't believe in giving up
>guns but there are some
>accessories out there that make
>these shooting more lethal, more
>gruesome and add to the
>body count. That
>fact is going to turn
>public opinion away form the
>world where the NRA lives.
>
>
>Nemont










Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


90087hankjr.jpg
 
>
>So... the fully automatic gun(s) he
>used are already illegal and
>have been for 30+ years
>and... it's also illegal to
>kill people but making more
>##### illegal will solve the
>problem?
>
>Just stop it already. Even
>if you made the platform
>and the parts illegal there
>will always be another country
>or another person who will
>have them or can make
>them.
>
>I have an idea!! Why don't
>we ban drugs too?
>Oh wait we already did
>that, never mind we don't
>have a drug problem in
>America anymore since we banned
>them I forgot. My
>bad.



Right On CAForky!






Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


90087hankjr.jpg
 
Ocho don't ever say you're honest you're not your the most dishonest drunken loser on this site. By the looks of your posting on here you would gather firewood if you were in my camp. And if you lipped off face to face (Which you won't unless you have a keyboard because your a huge twat) your glass chin would be in the dirt.
 
I'm clearly not looking for approval from any of you mouthbreathers so GFYS. if you agreed with me I'd know I was wrong. so thank you.

Nobody said these were full autos dipchit. it's more likely most if not all of them had alterations or accessories to make them automatic. probably legal accessories, you know, so you can dispose of that unwanted ammo. Ha!


It wasn't all bad was it? good for biz. the NRA will no doubt get their cut.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gun-stock-shares-skyrocket-las-164616362.html



Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17 AT 08:57AM (MST)[p]
Elkass,

From me, the smartest guy in Montana, to you, the dumbest guy in Utah: Is it possible that there is an issue within our society that could be dealt with if we all sat down and said that these shootings happen too often with too many killed and wounded. Or is it that you live in such fear that discussing the issue robs you of your phony conservatism? Or is it that because the NRA says there is nothing that can even be talked about that you let ole Wayne think for you? Or maybe you just don't care?

I never said pass another law, confiscate guns or anything remotely like that. I said if the gun owners of America don't have an adult discussion and allow the NRA to be their only spokesman we are all going to lose. The same guys, like you, who say nothing can be done also oppose any public funding for mental health resources. I am beginning to think you like the body count and that you get some satisfaction from being in the minority who believe that mass killings are just the price of freedom. You would love Iraq and Syria. They get use bombs there as well as guns.
Nemont
 
Reports now say he used several bump stocks, and all the guns were bought legally. he never broke the law until he pulled the trigger it seems. we equipped him with the right weapons and accessories to do the job. the laws in my state are exactly the same as NV.


Anyone remember this guy? he used to be a republican before the party got stump broke by the NRA. I don't know what a republican is anymore but I don't fit in and this guy certainly would not.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/reaganak47.asp







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Ochoco,
That was hilarious about a fart that lingers. You have the funniest stuff sometimes.

I actually think it's a good idea to get rid of those modifications to full auto. It seems wrong to allow them out there. I disagree with banning semi auto rifles though.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17 AT 09:05AM (MST)[p] I don't have a problem with semi-autos. I own pistols and hunt chuckar with a Benelli.

I have a problem with semi-autos that were specifically designed to kill people being available to every terrorist and whack job who wants one. it can be what gives a weak minded coward the courage to be a star. a model 742 with a 4 round clip just doesn't give them the woody a man card does. if it did 90% of them wouldn't chose a man card .

I have a huge problem with magazines that hold over 10 rounds. in most cases when a shooter is rushed it while he's changing clips. nobody needs more than 10 rounds. make up for a small pee pee with a bigger lift kit if need be rather than longer magazines.


This is a debate the antis will win. only a matter time and body count. my only concern is how far they go past Rambo's chit when they do and if it will effect my sporting arms.






Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17
>AT 09:05?AM (MST)

>
> I don't have a problem
>with semi-autos. I own pistols
>and hunt chuckar with a
>Benelli.
>
> I have a problem with
>semi-autos that were specifically designed
>to kill people being available
>to every terrorist and whack
>job who wants one.
> it can be what
>gives a weak minded coward
>the courage to be a
>star. a model 742
>with a 4 round clip
>just doesn't give them the
>woody a man card does.
>if it did 90% of
>them wouldn't chose a man
>card .
>
>I have a huge problem with
>magazines that hold over 10
>rounds. in most cases
>when a shooter is rushed
>it while he's changing clips.
> nobody needs more than
>10 rounds. make up
>for a small pee pee
>with a bigger lift kit
>if need be rather
>than longer magazines.
>
>
>This is a debate the antis
>will win. only a
>matter time and body count.
>my only concern is how
>far they go past Rambo's
>chit when they do and
>if it will effect my
>sporting arms.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
The VT shooter used 2 9 mm pistols and a chain to lock the doors and killed over 30 students.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17 AT 09:15AM (MST)[p]>LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17
>AT 09:05?AM (MST)

>
> I don't have a problem
>with semi-autos. I own pistols
>and hunt chuckar with a
>Benelli.
>
> I have a problem with
>semi-autos that were specifically designed
>to kill people being available
>to every terrorist and whack
>job who wants one.
> it can be what
>gives a weak minded coward
>the courage to be a
>star. a model 742
>with a 4 round clip
>just doesn't give them the
>woody a man card does.
>if it did 90% of
>them wouldn't chose a man
>card .
>
>I have a huge problem with
>magazines that hold over 10
>rounds. in most cases
>when a shooter is rushed
>it while he's changing clips.
> nobody needs more than
>10 rounds. make up
>for a small pee pee
>with a bigger lift kit
>if need be rather
>than longer magazines.
>
>
>This is a debate the antis
>will win. only a
>matter time and body count.
>my only concern is how
>far they go past Rambo's
>chit when they do and
>if it will effect my
>sporting arms.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends

What was the original intent of the second amendment? Think of where those writers had just come from and gone thru. I can almost predict your answer.


#livelikezac
 
> Reports now say he used
>several bump stocks, and all
>the guns were bought legally.
> he never broke the
>law until he pulled the
>trigger it seems.
>we equipped him with the
>right weapons and accessories to
>do the job. the
>laws in my state are
>exactly the same as NV.
>
>
>
>Anyone remember this guy? he
>used to be a republican
>before the party got stump
>broke by the NRA.
>I don't know what a
>republican is anymore but I
>don't fit in and
>this guy certainly would not.
>
>
>
>http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/reaganak47.asp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends

Got a link stating how many guns had bumpfire? Haven't you clowns claimed Reagan had dementia his last couple years in office? Was it selective dementia?


#livelikezac
 
And I can predict your stupid response to it. BECAUSE THEY HAD MUSKETS . can you prove they intended for crazy people to have assault weapons with 100 round drums and trigger cranks ? if not then we have a debate.

By the way, why can't I own grenade launchers, SAM's or even nukes? the founding fathers intended I be well armed correct? so WTF ? I want my nuke. why do you and the NRA get to draw the line ?


We have this VERY SAME debate after every mass murder. how long until the next one? a few months? we have a new record let's see if we can beat it. you won't give a FF.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
The line was drawn a couple hundred years ago. The only ones who've changed it and want to keep changing it are those with the nipple in their mouths.


#livelikezac
 
Is that right? please provide proof assault weapons with 100 round drums and trigger cranks were approved by congress OR the supreme court 200 years ago.


Scalia said it best on the subject. " we'll see " you don't remember Reagan, maybe Scalia ? he was a conservative justice on the USSC who died a few years ago.







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
What was the reason the founding fathers made the Second Amendment to begin with? They did not want to be ruled by a tyrannical government again, ever! It's just that simple.



#livelikezac
 
So, where is my nuke? the government has nukes, Pakistan has nukes, lil' kim has nukes. where is my nuke?


If you can't tell me why I cannot possess a nuke to be a well armed militia member then you cannot well me why I can own a Rambo gun. they're both weapons, and the founding fathers did no say I couldn't own a nuke. so I want my phukin nuke and you can have your rambo gun. please explain yourself.










Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Little man it is illegal to own any weapons of mass destruction. What are those ? Look it up dip chit ! Well unless you have a ffl and there are limits there also you d bag. Go back to sucking on your peyotenpipe and your pelosi blow up dolls tit. And you honest. You are a pathetic puke.
 
Sorry almost forgot about you NEMO. I agree we need to do something to help SOME of the mentally ill people out there. I can only speak for Utah because that is where I live and work. I deal with seriously mentally ill people every day I go to work. Most of these people are this way because of years of meth amphetamine and bath salt usage. Those people have made their own bed and as far as I am concerned no tax dollars should be spent to assist them. They made heir own bed sleep in it ! Now those people who have mental illness like our vets with ptsd, we should be spending what ever it takes to help and take care of those people. I am not saying I don't do anything to help the mentally ill homeless dope heads. I give my lunch away everyday to many of them. I am human and I feel for many of them but like I said they made their bed.
 
Here's my idea. Right away start legislation to ban certain assault rifles. Let's pick the ones to get rid of. My opinion is that we can do without AK 47s, SKS and the mini 30. Pretty much any semi auto 7.62x39 rifle. If we do it right, it can be a list of 13+ rifles. Some of them could be weapons we never could own to begin with so the list could be even bigger. The liberal people, especially the ones that don't know guns, will see this list and have a hard on. Little do they know all we did was stop people from purchasing junk guns that can't even shoot 6" at 100 yards. I think our gun culture will be better off as a result. I think we both would win, and just by the numbers, save lives. They at least could say we are willing to work together on it.
 
Nonuts, where did the founding fathers say I couldn't own weapons of mass destruction? is 59 deaed and 515 injured not mass destruction? I suppose that depends on who's azz got shot. not yours, so it's just another Sunday night in America.


Looks like the man card man had something more than a 10 round clip. who's proud ?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/first-look-guns-used-las-vegas-shooters-hotel-room-163623120.html


The idea of banning sales of cheap guns is a start. but what's to stop our trailer park patriots like we have here from crying they're being discriminated against because they're too poor to by an AR-15 or FN FAL ? and what did our gunman use the other night in Vegas? he wanted the good stuff. when you have a man card you want people to think there's nothing wrong with your Johnson . AK's are for posers.






Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
So if we ban fully automatic weapons which I don't intend to own. There will still be back door dealers slinging them. Youtube will show you how to modify a semi-auto rifle into a fully auto rifle and now we hit another touchy subject if we remove that content because we're taking away someones 1st amendment right. Someone will always get there hands on a fully auto rifle and mass supplies of ammunition. We have a huge pill addiction and social media problem that is leading to these types of things if you wanna hear the truth. We have a huge depression problem. A huge mental health problem and a huge object blaming problem. Here's a solution teach kids in depth about firearms in school not some watered down PC BS. Teach kids how to budget in school and about finances. And teach History properly. Get people outdoors fishing, hunting, camping, ect. Social Media and perscription drugs are eroding humans that's the F###ing problem.
 
>Sorry almost forgot about you NEMO.
> I agree we need
>to do something to help
>SOME of the mentally ill
>people out there. I
>can only speak for Utah
>because that is where I
>live and work. I
>deal with seriously mentally ill
>people every day I go
>to work. Most of
>these people are this way
>because of years of meth
>amphetamine and bath salt usage.
> Those people have made
>their own bed and as
>far as I am concerned
>no tax dollars should be
>spent to assist them.
>They made heir own bed
>sleep in it !
>Now those people who have
>mental illness like our vets
>with ptsd, we should be
>spending what ever it takes
>to help and take care
>of those people. I
>am not saying I don't
>do anything to help the
>mentally ill homeless dope heads.
> I give my lunch
>away everyday to many of
>them. I am human
>and I feel for many
>of them but like I
>said they made their bed.
>

There is a mental health crisis in America if anyone wants to admit. Look just at the number of drugs prescribed and dispensed to treat mental health problems. Bringing more resources to bear would help some of these issues.

Also why worship at the altar of the NRA? They will lead gun owners down a bad path and by just letting them set the agenda will lead to the public turning completely against gun owners and the 2nd Amendment won't be of much help nor will the courts.

Nemont
 
Nemont on bringing more resources are you calling for more drugs or more therapy. I'm all for programs to help people like outdoor type things because it's in my realm and way of life. I however am not in favor for more drugs and pharmicutical & doctors reaping rewards at people becoming addicted to their money making scheme. I myself do not worship the NRA or speak out about them I don't know where I stand with them because I have not put in the research to take my stand on them.
 
>Nemont on bringing more resources are
>you calling for more drugs
>or more therapy. I'm all
>for programs to help people
>like outdoor type things because
>it's in my realm and
>way of life. I however
>am not in favor for
>more drugs and pharmicutical &
>doctors reaping rewards at people
>becoming addicted to their money
>making scheme. I myself do
>not worship the NRA or
>speak out about them I
>don't know where I stand
>with them because I have
>not put in the research
>to take my stand on
>them.
I'm sure Gabby Gifford ,Hillary and a few others can help you make the right decision.
 
No 264mag those 2 nut cases will never make a decision for me. I can't stand when people who are such loose cannons and have no education in firearms want to say what should be legal and illegal with them.
 
>No 264mag those 2 nut cases
>will never make a decision
>for me. I can't stand
>when people who are such
>loose cannons and have no
>education in firearms want to
>say what should be legal
>and illegal with them.
Maybe require some sort of hunters safety course In school at least the young would be in the know instead of being in fear.
 
>Nemont on bringing more resources are
>you calling for more drugs
>or more therapy. I'm all
>for programs to help people
>like outdoor type things because
>it's in my realm and
>way of life. I however
>am not in favor for
>more drugs and pharmicutical &
>doctors reaping rewards at people
>becoming addicted to their money
>making scheme. I myself do
>not worship the NRA or
>speak out about them I
>don't know where I stand
>with them because I have
>not put in the research
>to take my stand on
>them.

More therapy, more crisis intervention and more mental health resources for dealing with those on the edge or in crisis. Jails are not the place to dump the mentally ill and ER's are often lacking the proper providers to deal with mental health crisis management. Police officers are overwhelmed dealing with people have mental health issues, as are ER Doc and Nurses.

I don't think more prescriptions would do diddly squat about the issue. We are over medicated as it is right now IMO.

I know locally we are dealing with a wave of illegal drug issues and abuse of Prescription drugs and often the underlying drive is a mental health issue: ie untreated depression, bi polar, etc etc.

It is easy to say a junkie is just a failure but with the opioid and meth problems across the nation it should be obvious that it doesn't matter what class you are from, those issues affect everyone.

I also don't believe in the idea that we can prevent every shooting, that is letting the perfect be the enemy of the good but we shouldn't pretend that we don't have a society that is violent and getting worse. We should address it head on.

Nemont
 
So... If we play devil's advocate and say we should go back to what the founders intended, we would all still only have muskets right? Bullshit and 440 is a complete retard. I guarantee he would ##### like he does when he's on his period if his guns were confiscated and he was handed a musket. Ignore him he's just wrong.

Now mental health on the other hand is something we absolutely should address although I haven't seen anything about the current mass shooter that suggests he had a mental health issue. The vast majority of them either do have a mental health issue or are working in the name of jihad. The left doesn't want to talk about Muslims so I doubt they're willing to talk much about any real mental health issues, it's always take away the guns.

We are most assuredly going to have to undergo more stringent screening to be able to purchase guns in the future. I'm fine with a mental health screening if need be to weed out potential shooters but what are the parameters and who gets to set them? How exactly do we sit down and talk about it when we are a nation of 300+ million people who can't agree on anything? I suppose we can leave it up to our elected officials to solve for us but that hasn't worked real well for most other issues.

Americans have to start by getting on the same page and acknowledging that banning shyt doesn't work. Marijuana is illegal and how's that working out for you? Mass killers will find a way to kill people if they want to, the left has to understand this fact. The argument would be in Europe to ban vehicles since they have been used in mass killings but common sense tells us that is not even a logical solution.

The other problem is the media. I'm actually watching the news as I type this and they are talking about Slidefire.com is where you go to learn how to make fully automatic weapons. They are literally helping other potential wackos learn how to do this. I get that they need ratings but this is just irresponsible journalism. For days we will see this story unfold in the news and the shooter is now famous which is attractive to other mentally unstable potential shooters.
 
>So... If we play devil's advocate
>and say we should go
>back to what the founders
>intended, we would all still
>only have muskets right?
>Bullshit and 440 is a
>complete retard. I guarantee
>he would ##### like he
>does when he's on his
>period if his guns were
>confiscated and he was handed
>a musket. Ignore him
>he's just wrong.
>
>Now mental health on the other
>hand is something we absolutely
>should address although I haven't
>seen anything about the current
>mass shooter that suggests he
>had a mental health issue.
> The vast majority of
>them either do have a
>mental health issue or are
>working in the name of
>jihad. The left doesn't
>want to talk about Muslims
>so I doubt they're willing
>to talk much about any
>real mental health issues, it's
>always take away the guns.
>
>
>We are most assuredly going to
>have to undergo more stringent
>screening to be able to
>purchase guns in the future.
> I'm fine with a
>mental health screening if need
>be to weed out potential
>shooters but what are the
>parameters and who gets to
>set them? How exactly
>do we sit down and
>talk about it when we
>are a nation of 300+
>million people who can't agree
>on anything? I suppose
>we can leave it up
>to our elected officials to
>solve for us but that
>hasn't worked real well for
>most other issues.
>
>Americans have to start by getting
>on the same page and
>acknowledging that banning shyt doesn't
>work. Marijuana is illegal
>and how's that working out
>for you? Mass killers
>will find a way to
>kill people if they want
>to, the left has to
>understand this fact. The
>argument would be in Europe
>to ban vehicles since they
>have been used in mass
>killings but common sense tells
>us that is not even
>a logical solution.
>
>The other problem is the media.
> I'm actually watching the
>news as I type this
>and they are talking about
>Slidefire.com is where you go
>to learn how to make
>fully automatic weapons. They
>are literally helping other potential
>wackos learn how to do
>this. I get that
>they need ratings but this
>is just irresponsible journalism.
>For days we will see
>this story unfold in the
>news and the shooter is
>now famous which is attractive
>to other mentally unstable potential
>shooters.
+ 1
 
Typical Californians with their heads up their azz.

Find where I ever said guns should be confiscated or illegal. I said, you dumbchit, that guns and mags like your shooter used should be illegal. the majority of americans agree with me. read the Heller decision, what we can have settled. what we can't have remains to be seen.


When it gets to the point echoing Gerald Ford and Reagan precisely gets you this kind of response you know you've found a place where retards gather. and the real republican ideology dies.

The only consolation is you will lose in the end.
















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>Typical Californians with their heads up
>their azz.
>
>Find where I ever said guns
>should be confiscated or illegal.
> I said, you dumbchit,
> that guns and mags
>like your shooter used should
>be illegal. the majority of
>americans agree with me.
>read the Heller decision,
>what we can have settled.
> what we can't have
>remains to be seen.
>
>
> When it gets to the
>point echoing Gerald Ford and
> Reagan precisely gets you
>this kind of response you
>know you've found a place
>where retards gather. and the
>real republican ideology dies.
>
>The only consolation is you will
>lose in the end.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Just say when and have another swig.
 
Hey NeMont!

You're Looking for F'N Excuses & There Ain't any this Time!

All The Laws in the World Wouldn't Have Stopped this LowLife SOB from doing what He done!

"Oh"!

"If He Wouldn't Have had an Automatic"!

If this!

If That!

Wake TF Up & See the Light!

You Ain't gonna Stop all the BS so Forget it!

For As Smart as You Claim You are You Sure come Up with Some STUPID Sssshhhiiittt!

Ya!

Let's All Sit Down & Solve all World Problems!

Shouldn't Take more than 30 F'N Minutes!






Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


90087hankjr.jpg
 
Elkass,
Yeah I know, it is almost like I never said a single thing you say I did, oh wait I didn't say any of that. It you who keeps harping on things and then trying to put words in my mouth. It is sad really but I get it. You can't argue that the shooting are bad for gun owner because the NRA is celebrating in the back rooms so you have to do what Ole Wayne says and go on the attack. Why not think for yourself instead of being an NRA parrot?

Is that you just don't really care or that you get off on the body count? I don't think your Bishop would approve of that, at least on Sundays.

Nemont
 
RE: Motive Discovered

No doubt in the coming days we will learn he was another Looney sore looser from the left that didn't get his way last November and has no intelligent way to change that so he acted out. I'm sure we will also learn he was on some prescription meds for his mental issues.



#livelikezac
 
RE: Motive Discovered

>No doubt in the coming days
>we will learn he was
>another Looney sore looser from
>the left that didn't get
>his way last November and
>has no intelligent way to
>change that so he acted
>out. I'm sure we will
>also learn he was on
>some prescription meds for his
>mental issues.
>
>
>
>#livelikezac
I saw a picture of him ,he was at a anti trump rally in Las Vegas.
 
RE: Motive Discovered

LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17 AT 07:15PM (MST)[p]2 main points stand out after 60+ replies.

1) Something needs to be done
2) There will always be guns

If guns were illegal but RPGs were, he would have used RPGs. If guns and RPGs were illegal, he would have crashed a plane, put an explosive in a big rig...something. But why?

Simple, just like our ISIS incidents and every incident that has happened this guy was batchit crazy! All mass killers and a percentage of murderers are friggin crazy! These are people with mental issues who have become lethally delusional which should bring us to the real point.

If 20% of the United States suffers from some form of mental illness what can the civil populace do to prevent those sufferers from access to firearms until they are deemed sane. All in a manner that does infringe on sane legal owners. If someone here is advocating that the mentally ill should own firearms, please speak on their behalf.

It seems so ridiculous considering we insist that "legal" fireworks have a Safe & Sane warning sticker. Maybe that should be the test, if you end up in the E.R. from using legal fireworks as a minor you are banned from gun ownership for life.

Really cannot fault the Gun Dealers they did their due diligence. The shooter like so many had never committed a crime, something just snapped justifying in his mind such evil acts were rational.

Personally I'm no fan of black guns with high cap clips, especially those with auto conversion mags. That being said I fully support those law abiding responsible folks that own them. After all strip all the bells and whistles off a black gun and what do you really have?

The only saving grace is that this guy was not trained well with this weaponry. If he had been well-trained or even a combat vet the body count would have been higher.

Fact is you could go to shorter clips. They did it in Cali and the world did not end. But ask yourself this question, if a motivated experienced shooter had access to 100 filled 5 clip mags how long would it take them to get out all 500 shots off with a..bolt-action? Yeah, not very long, huh?

When it comes to black guns things like high cap clips or perhaps special licensing with extensive reference application changes that are held in a database only accessible by FISA warrant could do the job. Maybe even a mandated revenue neutral training course via a federal program by a FFAM for on-sight psychological review too.

I do wholeheartedly agree with Nemont & Ocho, other than praying, some actual thing needs to be done, something has to change. We are stuck in a rut with way too many innocent people injured or dying.

Just spit-balling on doing things in order to protect law abiding citizens. Fact is most law abiding gun owners don't even a Rambo gun. Of those that do 98% seem to do so responsibly without committing a mass killing...or any killings.

Screw the NRA's politics on conversion set-ups to skirt the law, this is a real problem. It calls for progressive action which is exactly why the NRA political strings on the far right are always being yanked.

Hey NRA how's has the do-nothing approach exactly worked out since 1977?
 
RE: Motive Discovered

"If someone here is advocating that the mentally ill should own firearms, please speak on their behalf."

Thank you for your anticipated contribution 264.
 
RE: Motive Discovered

I can mostly agree with this and I can even get behind the banning of modifications that simulate full automation if it makes people feel better. The underlying fact and the common denominator is the mental issue that every one of these shooters has. We don't know if this guy was ever diagnosed with a mental illness but FTW is right, it takes an insane person to do something like this. We must address this problem.

We can ban whatever we want but it won't work. It's only a matter of time before someone flies a drone over a crowd at an NFL game and drops either a homemade bomb or something of that nature that kills a number of people. Will we then ban drones? Will we ban bombs? The laws cannot stop the where there is a will there is a way mentality of someone who wants to kill.

I tend to think that the sad fact is that we will never find a solution to stop mass killings. They happen all over the world and no law will ever be able to stop it.
 
RE: Motive Discovered

>
>
>
>
>Thank God and NRA.

Both of those seemed to have failed you in Vegas. Hard to imagine what either did to be thanked for. Ask the families of the dead and maimed but hey I know you need somebody to tell you what to think. You are no different then an Isis soldier. God and guns, the fakers two made up religions

Nemont
 
RE: Motive Discovered

LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17 AT 08:16PM (MST)[p]I guess god doesn't like new chitty country music anymore than I do. who knows. if I were superstitious I might say god was punishing white folk for voting Trump into office. makes as much sense as anything right?


Something to think about,

4 americans died in chit hole Lybia knowing the danger , years later republicans are still crying like babies and demanding someone ( Hillary ) answer for the tragedy. the longest congressional investigation was set into motion and came up empty. they seem most concerned over the loss of human life. beside themselves actually.

59 americans including women die and 515 are wounded in Vegas . the republicans say most unfortunate situation , but chit happens what are you going to do right ? we've tried nothing and it hasn't worked so STFU and deal with it . oh yeah, don't talk about guns or the NRA that's bad m'kay. the same concern for loss of life?

Who finds this reasonable ?




Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
RE: Motive Discovered

Predict his profile lennie. I made my prediction let's see who's closest.



#livelikezac
 
RE: Motive Discovered

Hey NeMont!

Read Post #73!

Then Re-Read it!









Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!


90087hankjr.jpg
 
RE: Motive Discovered

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Thank God and NRA.
>
>Both of those seemed to have
>failed you in Vegas.
>Hard to imagine what either
>did to be thanked for.
> Ask the families of
>the dead and maimed but
>hey I know you need
>somebody to tell you what
>to think. You are
>no different then an Isis
>soldier. God and guns,
>the fakers two made up

God Bless America
 
RE: Motive Discovered

First off, my deepest sympathies to all the victims & their families. We always enjoy our trips to Vegas & that concert is something we would attend if there so this was sobering to us.

As far as this discussion goes, I will first say I own 0 "man" guns,don't attend gun shows and don't belong to the NRA. Basically I don't have a dog in the fight over the main targets of the anti gun crowd.

I have no solutions to the violence in this country but I think it is much bigger than what your gun looks like or how many rounds you can stuff in the clip. We have a major people problem and not so much an inadimate object problem. I believe this will end up being much deeper than a loner weirdo that went out in a blaze of glory. I'm all for sensible gun laws but doubt they change much in todays divided and angry world.

I would love to hear from 440 why he is soo appaled at people being murdered with "man" guns that arent his cup of tea but never says a word about the 10s of thousands people killed yearly on the highways from the thing he loves according to most here,alcohol? That would be an easy fix to save thousands of lives a year. Funny I couldn't find the thread you started to ban alcohol? Selective outrage?
 
RE: Motive Discovered

> First off, my deepest sympathies
>to all the victims &
>their families. We always enjoy
>our trips to Vegas &
>that concert is something we
>would attend if there so
>this was sobering to us.
>
>
> As far as this discussion
>goes, I will first say
>I own 0 "man" guns,don't
>attend gun shows and don't
>belong to the NRA. Basically
>I don't have a dog
>in the fight over the
>main targets of the anti
>gun crowd.
>
> I have no solutions to
>the violence in this country
>but I think it is
>much bigger than what your
>gun looks like or how
>many rounds you can stuff
>in the clip. We have
>a major people problem and
>not so much an inadimate
>object problem. I believe this
>will end up being much
>deeper than a loner weirdo
>that went out in a
>blaze of glory. I'm all
>for sensible gun laws but
>doubt they change much in
>todays divided and angry world.
>
>
> I would love to hear
>from 440 why he is
>soo appaled at people being
>murdered with "man" guns that
>arent his cup of tea
>but never says a word
>about the 10s of thousands
>people killed yearly on the
>highways from the thing he
>loves according to most here,alcohol?
>That would be an easy
>fix to save thousands of
>lives a year. Funny I
>couldn't find the thread you
>started to ban alcohol? Selective
>outrage?
His crown with his Ranch King is his man card
 
RE: Motive Discovered

There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
? 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
? 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
? 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons ? better known as gun violence.
? 3% are accidental discharge deaths.
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
? 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
? 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
? 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
? 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.
But what about other deaths each year?
? 40,000+ die from a drug overdose?THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
? 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
? 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
Now it gets good:
? 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!
? 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It's time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed."
 
RE: Motive Discovered

Gang bangers having it out in the ghetto isn't exactly the same thing as concert goers getting mowed down in Vegas or kids getting slaughtered in their school. but if that's what the NRA tells you to say go for it.


We have a people problem. and it's only going to get worse. FOX is beside themselves admitting they can't find anything to hate about this shooter, he's just an every day white guy who loved guns. how in the hell are you going to prevent someone like him doing what he did? you can't. so you try to minimize it by limiting his weapon options . there is no other option.


What if bringing gun regulations back doesn't save everyone? then it doesn't. seatbelts save lives, but they don't save every life.

There must be another way you can feel like a man. find it.










Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
RE: Motive Discovered

>Gang bangers having it out in
>the ghetto isn't exactly the
>same thing as concert goers
>getting mowed down in Vegas
>or kids getting slaughtered in
>their school. but if
>that's what the NRA tells
>you to say go for
>it.
>
>
>We have a people problem. and
>it's only going to get
>worse. FOX is beside
>themselves admitting they can't find
>anything to hate about this
>shooter, he's just an every
>day white guy who loved
>guns. how in the hell
>are you going to prevent
>someone like him doing what
>he did? you can't.
> so you try to
>minimize it by limiting his
>weapon options . there
>is no other option.
>
>
> What if bringing gun regulations
>back doesn't save everyone? then
>it doesn't. seatbelts save
>lives, but they don't save
>every life.
>
>There must be another way you
>can feel like a man.
> find it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Move to Chicago and fix it.
 
Dude you are calling them azzhats? He had a clean record ! Why would they be azzhats? Did they have Kreskin skills or a lie detector test ? This time you really do look stupid to us all with that comment. It's not even defensible so don't try.
 
Like I said and you're too slow to pick up on, I am echoing Reagan in every way. if I'm stupid so was Reagan. if anything the need for regulation today is stronger than it was when he advocated it. I'm very very comfortable with where I stand, your disapproval is a compliment.


Hey good work guys, you helped him get a dozen bump stocks for his Rambo chit. and best of all it was all legal !! GO NRA !!!!



https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...m-had-bump-stocks-33-guns-purchased-past-year










Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
RE: Motive Discovered

LAST EDITED ON Oct-04-17 AT 10:02AM (MST)[p]>There are 30,000 gun related deaths
>per year by firearms, and
>this number is not disputed.
>The U.S. population is 324,059,091
>as of June 22, 2016.
>Do the math: 0.000000925% of
>the population dies from gun
>related actions each year. Statistically
>speaking, this is insignificant! What
>is never told, however, is
>a breakdown of those 30,000
>deaths, to put them in
>perspective as compared to other
>causes of death:
>? 65% of those deaths are
>by suicide, which would never
>be prevented by gun laws.
>
>? 15% are by law enforcement
>in the line of duty
>and justified.
>? 17% are through criminal activity,
>gang and drug related or
>mentally ill persons ? better
>known as gun violence.
>? 3% are accidental discharge deaths.
>
>So technically, "gun violence" is not
>30,000 annually, but drops to
>5,100. Still too many? Now
>lets look at how those
>deaths spanned across the nation.
>
>? 480 homicides (9.4%) were in
>Chicago
>? 344 homicides (6.7%) were in
>Baltimore
>? 333 homicides (6.5%) were in
>Detroit
>? 119 homicides (2.3%) were in
>Washington D.C. (a 54% increase
>over prior years)
>So basically, 25% of all gun
>crime happens in just 4
>cities. All 4 of those
>cities have strict gun laws,
>so it is not the
>lack of law that is
>the root cause.
>This basically leaves 3,825 for the
>entire rest of the nation,
>or about 75 deaths per
>state. That is an average
>because some States have much
>higher rates than others. For
>example, California had 1,169 and
>Alabama had 1.
>Now, who has the strictest gun
>laws by far? California, of
>course, but understand, it is
>not guns causing this. It
>is a crime rate spawned
>by the number of criminal
>persons residing in those cities
>and states. So if all
>cities and states are not
>created equal, then there must
>be something other than the
>tool causing the gun deaths.
>
>Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific?
>How about in comparison to
>other deaths? All death is
>sad and especially so when
>it is in the commission
>of a crime but that
>is the nature of crime.
>Robbery, death, rape, assault are
>all done by criminals. It
>is ludicrous to think that
>criminals will obey laws. That
>is why they are called
>criminals.
>But what about other deaths each
>year?
>? 40,000+ die from a drug
>overdose?THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR
>THAT!
>? 36,000 people die per year
>from the flu, far exceeding
>the criminal gun deaths.
>? 34,000 people die per year
>in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths
>even if you include suicide).
>
>Now it gets good:
>? 200,000+ people die each year
>(and growing) from preventable medical
>errors. You are safer walking
>in the worst areas of
>Chicago than you are when
>you are in a hospital!
>
>? 710,000 people die per year
>from heart disease. It's time
>to stop the double cheeseburgers!
>So what is the point?
>If the liberal loons and
>the anti-gun movement focused their
>attention on heart disease, even
>a 10% decrease in cardiac
>deaths would save twice the
>number of lives annually of
>all gun-related deaths (including suicide,
>law enforcement, etc.). A 10%
>reduction in medical errors would
>be 66% of the total
>number of gun deaths or
>4 times the number of
>criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily
>preventable 10% reductions! So you
>have to ask yourself, in
>the grand scheme of things,
>why the focus on guns?
>It's pretty simple:
>Taking away guns gives control to
>governments. The founders of this
>nation knew that regardless of
>the form of government, those
>in power may become corrupt
>and seek to rule as
>the British did by trying
>to disarm the populace of
>the colonies. It is not
>difficult to understand that a
>disarmed populace is a controlled
>populace.
>Thus, the second amendment was proudly
>and boldly included in the
>U.S. Constitution. It must be
>preserved at all costs. So
>the next time someone tries
>to tell you that gun
>control is about saving lives,
>look at these facts and
>remember these words from Noah
>Webster: "Before a standing army
>can rule, the people must
>be disarmed."

Figures lie and liars figure. Everyone of those items are statistically insignificant compared to the total U.S. population so that is a red herring the NRA uses in their propaganda to lure in the slow and dimwitted who believe that ownership of an AR or AK will allow them to go toe to toe with an organized military.

But further the issue isn't about what you all claim. Explain how these gizmo that allow conversion to full automatic fire even pertain to protecting yourself? The very first thing they teach in at the range in basic training is that automatic fire is usually a waste of ammo. Can you find any infantryman who always sets his weapon on full auto? If the military doesn't need that capability in almost every combat situation they encounter, why do civilians need to be able to spray rounds and you call it freedom?

The military has dedicated fully automatic weapons for infantry platoons to employ but they don't give every soldier or marine a full auto for a reason. Now explain how spraying and praying isn't a good strategy for the infantry and Marines but is required to keep tyranny away on the streets of America.

It all NRA multi level marketing that puts it out there that any reduction in the number of rounds you can get off is an assault on the 2nd Amendment. The slow and dimwitted eat up like a it was a Trump speech were he said on day 1 Obamacare would be repealed and replaced and both are about as truthful as the other.

Nemont
 
> Like I said and you're
>too slow to pick up
>on, I am echoing
>Reagan in every way.
> if I'm stupid so
>was Reagan. if
>anything the need for regulation
>today is stronger than it
>was when he advocated it.
> I'm very very
>comfortable with where I stand,
>your disapproval is a compliment.
>
>
>
>Hey good work guys, you helped
>him get a dozen bump
>stocks for his Rambo chit.
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okay Schumer, you allow blacks to be shot.
 
I'm tellin you, the best thing for the right to do is nip it in the butt. If they were the first to come out with a proposed ban they would look a lot better than they do now. We can do without the garbage guns I mentioned earlier and still have what I want at least. Think about it, if they showed up at the capital with an idea before the liberals, that would put them in charge of change. I'm not talking a big change, just modest. A list of crappy guns to start with. They can show up with other items in their pocket as well. You don't want to use all of them, but if you use them wisely, the left thinks they win. Those items could be the full auto bump stocks/cranks, barrel lengths, AR or AK pistols and limiting colapseable stocks to 1 1/2", just enough to adjust the LOP. I feel it's reasonable because I don't want magazine limits or bullet buttons or rifles to look like what CA or other blue states have. Those are quite silly.
 
Magazine capacity limits are the single most important item in any legislation.

Hannity said it best the other night when he talked about how amazing he's be with a gun on FAUX, " when they drop the clip you have a chance " his exact words. and he's right, so do you want 10 rounds before your chance? 30 rounds ? 100 rounds ? myself I like 10 the best . it just seems better to me by 20 to 90 rounds.


How many more people would be alive in Vegas today if the shooter had 10 round clips? more for sure. how many more ? I don't know. how many does it take to matter ?





Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
OCHO maybe if they would have picked up the F'ing phone when they called from benghazzi people wouldn't be so pissed that's the issue with benghazzi and then when they finally did pick up the phone they said oh well and tried to cover it all up. So your comparing watermelons to basketballs again I can see. Seems like they picked up the phone in vegas when sh!t hit the fan. So your comparison holds no weight.
 
Being selfish is the American way we're all guilty. it accounts for 90% of our problems.

I'm guilty myself, I accept global warming is real and I know we should be taking action . the republicant's put their heads up their azz and deny everything and to be honest about it it's a relief. I know I'm right but I can't change it so I did my part I biatched about it so I'm off the hook. so I can keep living large and making it worse, what are you going to do right ? that's honesty.

Same thing with the debt, you want tax cuts and run the debt up? I call bullchit , but if you're going to force me well hell I don't have any kids lets do this. I know I'm wrong but what are you going to do right? that's honesty.


On guns they're doing the same thing but I have nothing to gain because Rambo chit does not interest me in the least. and I know their scorched earth policy will drag me down with them in the end. if they were honest they'd admit it too.






Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
> Being selfish is the American
>way we're all guilty.
>it accounts for 90% of
>our problems.
>
>I'm guilty myself, I accept global
>warming is real and I
>know we should be taking
>action . the republicant's
>put their heads up their
>azz and deny everything and
>to be honest about
>it it's a
>relief. I know I'm
>right but I can't change
>it so I did my
>part I biatched about it
>so I'm off the hook.
>so I can keep living
>large and making it worse,
> what are you going
>to do right ?
>that's honesty.
>
>Same thing with the debt, you
>want tax cuts and run
>the debt up? I
>call bullchit , but if
>you're going to force me
>well hell I don't have
>any kids lets do this.
>I know I'm wrong but
>what are you going to
>do right? that's honesty.
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>On guns they're doing the same
>thing but I have nothing
>to gain because Rambo chit
>does not interest me in
>the least. and I
>know their scorched earth policy
>will drag me down with
>them in the end.
>if they were honest they'd
>admit it too.
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>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Move to San Jaun ,Trump is going to forgive there debt,you can drive a VW and save the planet.
 
Ocho I do my part and keep sh!t clean and recycle as much as I can. Pick up litter in the field as well. I don't mind alternative energy as well but make it affordable or I won't buy it. I don't get caught up into global warming because it was brought up by bought science for a political agenda with not enough time or evidence to support what it claims. And the climate naturally changes hence forth lake bonneville is dry. I do have a really good solution for these mass shootings and it's worked out really well for me and my family. I go hunting and fishing and avoid mass gatherings. And the NFL I'd like to thank them only for the fact they've turned me off as a fan, but I'm pissed at how they've disrespected vets, cops, the president, ect. So I go hunting even more now. They can get on twitter and tell fans bye but at the end of the day I used to help pay their bills. I don't go to these large gatherings and it's been working for me. Rambo guns I don't want one I don't need one they are not cost effective for me to shoot and I don't need to deal with the headache of licensing myself. Even better it keeps the govt. further out of my business. I don't go visit looney perscription writing doctors or psyciatrists either. So I don't have a pill problem. I deal with my problems and know that it'll all work out.
 

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