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Oct-03-17, 
07:09 PM (MST)
70. "RE: Motive Discovered"

LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-17 AT 07:15 PM (MST)

2 main points stand out after 60+ replies.

1) Something needs to be done
2) There will always be guns

If guns were illegal but RPGs were, he would have used RPGs. If guns and RPGs were illegal, he would have crashed a plane, put an explosive in a big rig...something. But why?

Simple, just like our ISIS incidents and every incident that has happened this guy was batchit crazy! All mass killers and a percentage of murderers are friggin crazy! These are people with mental issues who have become lethally delusional which should bring us to the real point.

If 20% of the United States suffers from some form of mental illness what can the civil populace do to prevent those sufferers from access to firearms until they are deemed sane. All in a manner that does infringe on sane legal owners. If someone here is advocating that the mentally ill should own firearms, please speak on their behalf.

It seems so ridiculous considering we insist that "legal" fireworks have a Safe & Sane warning sticker. Maybe that should be the test, if you end up in the E.R. from using legal fireworks as a minor you are banned from gun ownership for life.

Really cannot fault the Gun Dealers they did their due diligence. The shooter like so many had never committed a crime, something just snapped justifying in his mind such evil acts were rational.

Personally I'm no fan of black guns with high cap clips, especially those with auto conversion mags. That being said I fully support those law abiding responsible folks that own them. After all strip all the bells and whistles off a black gun and what do you really have?

The only saving grace is that this guy was not trained well with this weaponry. If he had been well-trained or even a combat vet the body count would have been higher.

Fact is you could go to shorter clips. They did it in Cali and the world did not end. But ask yourself this question, if a motivated experienced shooter had access to 100 filled 5 clip mags how long would it take them to get out all 500 shots off with a..bolt-action? Yeah, not very long, huh?

When it comes to black guns things like high cap clips or perhaps special licensing with extensive reference application changes that are held in a database only accessible by FISA warrant could do the job. Maybe even a mandated revenue neutral training course via a federal program by a FFAM for on-sight psychological review too.

I do wholeheartedly agree with Nemont & Ocho, other than praying, some actual thing needs to be done, something has to change. We are stuck in a rut with way too many innocent people injured or dying.

Just spit-balling on doing things in order to protect law abiding citizens. Fact is most law abiding gun owners don't even a Rambo gun. Of those that do 98% seem to do so responsibly without committing a mass killing...or any killings.

Screw the NRA's politics on conversion set-ups to skirt the law, this is a real problem. It calls for progressive action which is exactly why the NRA political strings on the far right are always being yanked.

Hey NRA how's has the do-nothing approach exactly worked out since 1977?


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    OchocoKid     Oct-02-17       
 Vegas Sets New...   Captain_cou...     Oct-02-17     1  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-02-17     2  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     3  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     4  
 Vegas Sets New...   Captain_cou...     Oct-02-17     5  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-02-17     6  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     7  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     8  
 Vegas Sets New...   Captain_cou...     Oct-02-17     9  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     10  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-02-17     11  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     12  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     13  
 Vegas Sets New...   Captain_cou...     Oct-02-17     14  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-02-17     15  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     16  
 Vegas Sets New...   wstrntines     Oct-02-17     17  
 Vegas Sets New...   elkassassin     Oct-02-17     18  
 Vegas Sets New...   NeMont     Oct-02-17     19  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-02-17     20  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     21  
 Vegas Sets New...   wstrntines     Oct-02-17     22  
 Vegas Sets New...   RELH     Oct-02-17     23  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     24  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     25  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     26  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     27  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-02-17     28  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     29  
 Vegas Sets New...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-02-17     30  
 Vegas Sets New...   elkassassin     Oct-02-17     32  
 Vegas Sets New...   wstrntines     Oct-02-17     33  
 Vegas Sets New...   elkassassin     Oct-02-17     31  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-02-17     34  
 Vegas Sets New...   NeMont     Oct-03-17     35  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     36  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-03-17     41  
 Vegas Sets New...   Captain_cou...     Oct-03-17     37  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     38  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     39  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-03-17     40  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     42  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-03-17     43  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     44  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-03-17     45  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     46  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-03-17     47  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-03-17     48  
 Vegas Sets New...   Captain_cou...     Oct-03-17     49  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     50  
 Vegas Sets New...   wstrntines     Oct-03-17     51  
 Vegas Sets New...   NeMont     Oct-03-17     52  
 Vegas Sets New...   wstrntines     Oct-03-17     53  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     54  
 Vegas Sets New...   wstrntines     Oct-03-17     55  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     56  
 Vegas Sets New...   NeMont     Oct-03-17     57  
 Vegas Sets New...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-03-17     58  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     59  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     60  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     61  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     62  
 Vegas Sets New...   elkassassin     Oct-03-17     63  
 Vegas Sets New...   NeMont     Oct-03-17     64  
 Vegas Sets New...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     65  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-03-17     66  
 Vegas Sets New...   DW     Oct-03-17     67  
 Vegas Sets New...   notags2     Oct-03-17     68  
 Vegas Sets New...   264mag     Oct-03-17     69  
 Vegas Sets New...   Forthewall     Oct-03-17     70  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-03-17     71  
 RE: Motive Dis...   Forthewall     Oct-03-17     72  
 RE: Motive Dis...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-03-17     73  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-03-17     74  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-03-17     75  
 RE: Motive Dis...   DW     Oct-03-17     76  
 RE: Motive Dis...   elkassassin     Oct-03-17     77  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-03-17     78  
 RE: Motive Dis...   opbuckslayer     Oct-04-17     79  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     80  
 RE: Motive Dis...   dirtygrass     Oct-04-17     81  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     82  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-04-17     83  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     84  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     85  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-04-17     88  
 RE: Motive Dis...   DeerMadness     Oct-04-17     86  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-04-17     87  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     89  
 RE: Motive Dis...   Captain_cou...     Oct-04-17     90  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-04-17     91  
 RE: Motive Dis...   Captain_cou...     Oct-04-17     93  
 RE: Motive Dis...   eelgrass     Oct-04-17     92  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-04-17     94  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-04-17     95  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     96  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     97  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     98  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-04-17     99  
 RE: Motive Dis...   Forthewall     Oct-04-17     100  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-04-17     101  
 RE: Motive Dis...   Captain_cou...     Oct-05-17     102  
 RE: Motive Dis...   opbuckslayer     Oct-05-17     103  
 RE: Motive Dis...   dirtygrass     Oct-05-17     104  
 RE: Motive Dis...   dirtygrass     Oct-05-17     105  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     106  
 RE: Motive Dis...   dirtygrass     Oct-05-17     107  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     108  
 RE: Motive Dis...   dirtygrass     Oct-05-17     109  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     110  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-05-17     111  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-05-17     112  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     113  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-05-17     114  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     115  
 RE: Motive Dis...   notags2     Oct-05-17     116  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     117  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-05-17     118  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     119  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-05-17     120  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     121  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-05-17     122  
 RE: Motive Dis...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-05-17     126  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-05-17     125  
 RE: Motive Dis...   RELH     Oct-05-17     127  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-05-17     128  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-05-17     129  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     130  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-05-17     131  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     132  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-05-17     133  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-05-17     134  
 RE: Motive Dis...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-05-17     135  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-05-17     136  
 RE: Motive Dis...   elkassassin     Oct-05-17     137  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-05-17     138  
 RE: Motive Dis...   dirtygrass     Oct-06-17     139  
 RE: Motive Dis...   NeMont     Oct-06-17     140  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-06-17     141  
 RE: Motive Dis...   notags2     Oct-06-17     142  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-06-17     143  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-06-17     144  
 RE: Motive Dis...   grosventreh...     Oct-06-17     145  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-06-17     146  
 RE: Motive Dis...   notags2     Oct-06-17     147  
 RE: Motive Dis...   elkassassin     Oct-06-17     148  
 RE: Motive Dis...   elkassassin     Oct-06-17     149  
 RE: Motive Dis...   notags2     Oct-06-17     150  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-07-17     151  
 RE: Motive Dis...   wstrntines     Oct-07-17     152  
 RE: Motive Dis...   RELH     Oct-07-17     153  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-11-17     154  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-11-17     155  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-11-17     156  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-12-17     157  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-12-17     158  
 RE: Motive Dis...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-12-17     159  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-12-17     160  
 RE: Motive Dis...   264mag     Oct-12-17     161  
 RE: Motive Dis...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-12-17     162  
 RE: Motive Dis...   elkassassin     Oct-13-17     163  
 RE: Motive Dis...   OchocoKid     Oct-13-17     164  
 RE: Motive Dis...   CAforkedhorn     Oct-13-17     165  

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