Tillerson fired

NeMont

NeMont

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Trump didn't even have the nads to tell him face to face or even over the phone. Real class act that Trump is. Apparently having an adult who is a real self made man and knows how the world works threatens Trump and his merry band of cheer leaders.

Nemont
 
>Was there collusion?
A few of the Hillary Slurpers here did have that in there tiny little brains.
 
Another adult has left the building. Trump is home alone.

Tillerson was too hard on Putin and too soft on Iran. and he knew a moron when he saw one. he had to go.

Trump says he and Pompeo see eye to eye, that means we have a retard president and secretary of state. what could go wrong ?



















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
There may be much more to this than we want to accept. we would be required to support our ally if they take action against Russia and Tillerson would have pushed to fulfil our obligation. this would have certainly put him and the moron at odds yet again. it was time for any americans to go.


Trump cannot say a bad thing about Putin except that they don't get to spend enough time together anymore.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
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>this mean you are over
>the collusion ?

264+1nitwit,

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/question-decide-trumps-presidency/

I have said over and over that there will not be a video or audio of Trump and Putin sitting down and talking about this. Read the article and figure out that the only person to blame for Mueller is Trump himself and through his actions and through the people he put into his campaign.

I know it is hard for Trump's Dumb Stooges to admit facts because they worship the President and he is devoid of using any facts when they are required. Firing Tillerson right before THE MAJOR foreign policy meeting of this administration and replacing him with the director of the CIA almost borders on malpractice. Tillerson was a realist and a voice of reason, better yet he was not a rubber stamp for Trump's ready, fire, aim style of diplomacy.

I get it you don't much care about anything other that your continued devotion to anything the President does. You need to remember Tillerson has cultivated some very, very powerful allies who won't take kindly to disgraceful way the President fired him via a Tweet. For any of Trump's Dumb Stooges to believe this has no price attached to it shows how far in the tank they really are and how little they care about the country.

Nemont
 
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>>this mean you are over
>>the collusion ?
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>264+1nitwit,
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>https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/question-decide-trumps-presidency/
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>I have said over and over
>that there will not be
>a video or audio of
>Trump and Putin sitting down
>and talking about this.
>Read the article and figure
>out that the only person
>to blame for Mueller is
>Trump himself and through his
>actions and through the people
>he put into his campaign.
>
>
>I know it is hard for
>Trump's Dumb Stooges to admit
>facts because they worship the
>President and he is devoid
>of using any facts when
>they are required.
>Firing Tillerson right before THE
>MAJOR foreign policy meeting of
>this administration and replacing him
>with the director of the
>CIA almost borders on malpractice.
> Tillerson was a realist
>and a voice of reason,
>better yet he was not
>a rubber stamp for Trump's
>ready, fire, aim style
>of diplomacy.
>
>I get it you don't much
>care about anything other that
>your continued devotion to anything
>the President does. You
>need to remember Tillerson has
>cultivated some very, very
>powerful allies who won't take
>kindly to disgraceful way the
>President fired him via a
>Tweet. For any
>of Trump's Dumb Stooges to
>believe this has no price
>attached to it shows how
>far in the tank they
>really are and how little
>they care about the country.
>
>
>Nemont
I get it, you miss Obama.
 
264,

As one of Trump's Dumb Stooges you should have a better defense than that for his actions. Has zero to do with missing Obama and everything to do with your mancrush on the Donald. What I miss is good solid conservative policies and a president who was man enough to fire a cabinet level member of his administration face to face instead of via a Tweet. It is a chickenshyt way to run the most powerful office in the world. However I come to learn most Trumpettes seem to enjoy chickenshyt.

I get it you are invested in all things Trump and what actually happens to the country doesn't much matter to you.


Nemont
 
Not long ago he was considered the worst secretary of state in the history of the position, now your upset he was let go? I can't figure you never trumpers out.


#livelikezac
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18 AT 09:13AM (MST)[p]Really that is your defense? So firing a guy via a tweet is acceptable for the guy holding the most powerful office in the world? The Trump's Dumb Stooges excuses get weaker and weaker by the day. When will a single one of you own up to what is really happening instead of make believe world according to Trump?

I said Tillerson would leave last week, not because of his job performance but because as an honest, thoughtful, well respected and self made man he had no place in Trump's administration. Trump undercut him at every turn. Watch McMasters will walk a thin line, Jeff Sessions is there because he is loyal and apparently into being undercut at every turn too. Neither are a long term member of this administration either.

Make enough enemies out of powerful people and you end up on an island without a boat. Not that I expect a single Trumpette to care about that.



Nemont
 
It has nothing to do with love. Tillerson is a man of integrity and horse power who pulled himself up by the bootstraps. Unlike the President, Tillerson knows hard work and how to put the shovel on the rock. There is no way a guy like Trump would coexist with a guy like Tillerson who is honest and a stand up guy. Trump needs to surround himself with stooges and yes men.

Tillerson served at the pleasure of the President. Tillerson just had the misfortune of serving Trump who cannot handle a guy who is smarter than he is. You should apply because we know that you wouldn't have the same hurdle to overcome.



Nemont
 
>It has nothing to do with
>love. Tillerson is a
>man of integrity and horse
>power who pulled himself up
>by the bootstraps. Unlike
>the President, Tillerson knows hard
>work and how to put
>the shovel on the rock.
> There is no
>way a guy like Trump
>would coexist with a guy
>like Tillerson who is honest
>and a stand up guy.
> Trump needs to surround
>himself with stooges and yes
>men.
>
>Tillerson served at the pleasure of
>the President. Tillerson just
>had the misfortune of serving
>Trump who cannot handle a
>guy who is smarter than
>he is. You should
>apply because we know that
>you wouldn't have the same
>hurdle to overcome.
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>Nemont
Hows Stoney ?
 
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Last I heard from him he said you and him were celebrating your gay wedding. Congrats to both of you, I guess.

Nemont
 
I disagree, but let's say you're right. doesn't that mean comrade Trump really really phuked up ? again.

If his " best people " are this bad how bad are his second stringers ?


But the important thing is Putie is safe.









Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/13/16029526/rex-tillerson-fired-state-department
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>#livelikezac

I guess put out or get out. It's great to be President.

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>Last I heard from him he
>said you and him
>were celebrating your gay wedding.
> Congrats to both
>of you, I guess.
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>Nemont
More than likely you will owe me 100 bucks.
 
Too bad that Obama did not fire some of his key people and we would have had far less scandals in that regime. Hillary was a great Sec. of State and took millions of dollars from the Russians. Do we want to go back to that?

RELH
 
> Obama and Hillary are what
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Uranium dumb #####
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18 AT 10:43AM (MST)[p]I would owe you $100? For what Trumps reelection? If it comes to that, unlike your bride named Stoney, I will pay up. Want double it now?

Nemont
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18 AT 10:44AM (MST)[p]264,

Let's bet on whether the Uranium One deal ever gets a single indictment issued. I will even give you until the end of 2020 to make sure you have plenty of time.

$1,000 says you will never ever see an indictment or even an investigation of the Uranium one deal. Just like you won't see any U.S. produced uranium shipped to Russia.

You game?

Nemont
 
>LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18
>AT 10:44?AM (MST)
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>264,
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>Let's bet on whether the Uranium
>One deal ever gets a
>single indictment issued. I
>will even give you until
>the end of 2020 to
>make sure you have plenty
>of time.
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>$1,000 says you will never ever
>see an indictment or even
>an investigation of the Uranium
>one deal. Just like
>you won't see any U.S.
>produced uranium shipped to Russia.
>
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>You game?
>
>Nemont
first things first get your money from Stoney and admit there was no collusion between your President Trump and Russia.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18 AT 11:42AM (MST)[p]So you want to depend on your spouse for this bet. Roll over in bed and tell your wife, Stoney, to pay me.

Admit there was no Russian collusion to get Trump elected? That wouldn't be the truth.
 
>LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18
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>So you want to depend on
>your spouse for this bet.
> Roll over in bed
>and tell your wife, Stoney,
>to pay me.
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>Admit there was no Russian collusion
>to get Trump elected?
>That wouldn't be the truth.
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There you have it .....No Collusion
 
Trump's campaign almost assuredly had direct contact with Russians and if Trump didn't know about shows either he is incompetent as a boss or that he picked some real shytty people to run his campaign.

Either way Mueller has enough work to do to stay busy for probably at least another 6 to 12 months. Imagine if Trump had half a brain to do the right thing and there wouldn't be a Mueller investigation.

Nemont
 
>Trump's campaign almost assuredly had direct
>contact with Russians and if
>Trump didn't know about shows
>either he is incompetent as
>a boss or that he
>picked some real shytty people
>to run his campaign.
>
>Either way Mueller has enough work
>to do to stay busy
>for probably at least another
>6 to 12 months.
>Imagine if Trump had half
>a brain to do the
>right thing and there wouldn't
>be a Mueller investigation.
>
>Nemont
You live at the White House ?
 
>Trump's campaign almost assuredly had direct
>contact with Russians and if
>Trump didn't know about shows
>either he is incompetent as
>a boss or that he
>picked some real shytty people
>to run his campaign.
>
>Either way Mueller has enough work
>to do to stay busy
>for probably at least another
>6 to 12 months.
>Imagine if Trump had half
>a brain to do the
>right thing and there wouldn't
>be a Mueller investigation.
>
>Nemont

Cheese and rice nemont, git yer head outta the kool aide bucket!


#livelikezac
 
So is Tillerson a Russian agent stooge of Putin's as many believed when he got the job, or is he someone Trump now dislikes because he doesn't love him some Putin enough? I wish people would make up their mind and stick with it.
 
DW,

Watch and see if Trump demands Russia answer for the nerve agent attack on our closest ally. I will bet he will posture but will not impose new sanctions on Russia or anything that hurts Putin. Even though Putin felt free enough from any retaliation to attempt murder on British soil.

Any other President would have denounced the action in person and demanded Putin explain himself. Then we would be sanctioning the shyt out of him. So far nary a word and he has let May carry all the heave water on the issue.

Trump isn't going to do anything that would upset Putin.



Nemont
 
>DW,
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>Watch and see if Trump demands
>Russia answer for the nerve
>agent attack on our closest
>ally. I will bet
>he will posture but will
>not impose new sanctions on
>Russia or anything that hurts
>Putin. Even though Putin
>felt free enough from any
>retaliation to attempt murder on
>British soil.
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>Any other President would have denounced
>the action in person and
>demanded Putin explain himself.
>Then we would be sanctioning
>the shyt out of him.
> So far nary a
>word and he has let
>May carry all the heave
>water on the issue.
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>Trump isn't going to do anything
>that would upset Putin.
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>Nemont

Do you recommend we commence bombing raids at midnight? I thought you hated war? Yer turnin into a war monger!

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ia-until-midnight-to-explain-use-of-nerve-gas

#livelikezac
 
You slurpers need to get your heads out of your azz on the collusion thing, nothing has change whatsoever. even GOP members of the committee said it's meaningless. sometimes I think you're in the pee tapes too.


Tillerson wasn't much of a SS, but he was better at his job than the president is. kind of like Bush I didn't always agree with him buy I figured the welfare of the nation was his top concern. I cannot say that for Trump and most of the swamp creatures. Tillerson was quick to condemn Russia and that was the last straw for comrade Trump . even you stupid phuks have to see that much .


I can't wait to see what Comrade Trump has to say when May lays out her response to Russia's actions. one of the few times the orange retard shuts his big mouth I suspect.











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Last I heard Trump is planning to meet with the British prime minister to talk about what evidence they have that Russia was involved in the nerve gas attack on the Russian spy and his daughter.

Gee! that does sound like the logical thing to do before throwing accusations at Putin like Tillerson did. I guess in some small minds even using logic Trump is wrong.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18 AT 03:26PM (MST)[p]

Some excuse is better than none I guess. So you support a guy who doesn't have the nads to pick up the phone and tell Tillerson he is fired?

One would think Trump would be touting that fact and instead he saying everything else. Go watch Tillerson's farewell address, it is almost too good to not laugh about what he says. To bad it will end up being bad for the country.

Not that any of Trump's Dumb Stooges give much of a chit about the country.

Nemont
 
Trump want's a yes man and Tillerson just didn't fit the job discretion.

If Tillerson hadn't defied the presidunce a few times who knows what kind of chit we'd be in now. a crazy man is replacing a fairly chitty swamp with total losers who won't dare defy him. ain't this going to be great.


Whatsup with this ? someone else say the king has no cloths ?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...e-house/ar-BBKae5M?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-18 AT 03:27PM (MST)[p]Not according to Tillerson he said president called him three hours after the firing. Kelly told Tillerson last Friday that he should cut his trip short and return home not that he was getting the boot.

It is totally within President Trump's power to can him, the reason doesn't matter, it does show what a total lack of class this president has, firing a cabinet level member of his administration via twitter.

I am sure it makes Trumpettes moist just thinking about it but out here in America it makes everyone shake their head at one more stupid thing to come from this White House. Even the local diehard Trump guys at coffee this morning were upset with how Trump handled this and that he canned Tillerson.

https://qz.com/1228316/rex-tillerso...etary-of-state-warns-russia-and-shades-trump/

Nemont
 
It seems that Tillerson was advised last Friday by John Kelly, that the President wanted him to step down from his position. Tillerson requested a delay that Trump was not prepared to give. Yes it would have been better to call him into the White House and told to his face, but it being done without warning to Tillerson does not appear to be true.

You can say what you want, but Trump is fighting battles on all sides created by the sorry losers in the Democrat party and he needs his cabinet people to be on board and not just give lip service.

RELH
 
Who do you believe? A known liar or a former Eagle Scout. Tillerson is honest and hold integrity dear, Trump lies about what at the drop of a hat.

Easy to see who Trump?s Dumb Stooges are willing to defend no matter the truth.
Honesty and integrity are something they don't care about.

Nemont
 
All this aside Tillerson performed a service that probably won't get performed anymore. a janitor.

Tillerson was over on the chithole apology tour when he had to come back. He tried to fan the farts Trump sends our allies out the window. he tried to keep some order in the middle east by keeping Trump out of it. he tried to talk to N Korea and it worked dispite Trump's mocking him. every sensible thing he did was at Trump's displeasure.

So with the adult being replaced by a yes man where do we go ? this is serious chit it's really not funny. we have a retard president surrounding himself with yes men and an orange lipped stump broke congress who refuse to do anything to reign him in . it's dingbat unchained.


Historians will look back at this era shake their heads and ask WTF was wrong with those people I have no doubt whatsoever of that.











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>Who do you believe? A known
>liar or a former Eagle
>Scout. Tillerson is honest
>and hold integrity dear, Trump
>lies about what at the
>drop of a hat.
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>Easy to see who Trump?s Dumb
>Stooges are willing to defend
>no matter the truth.
>Honesty and integrity are something they
>don't care about.
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>Nemont

Lol....


#livelikezac
 
For 6 months you never trumpers and your new found lovers in the left have been telling us he's the worst secretary of state ever and now you piss and whine this "great man", an eagle scout, got fired. Fer f' s sakes you clowns are never happy!



#livelikezac
 
DW,

Of course it is funny to you, as a Trumpette you don't care about truth or honesty, only what Trump says. It is amazing how all of Trump's Dumb Stooges have out sourced their ethics along with their conservatism to a guy like Trump. All of the clowns here hold him to zero standards of anything.

Tillerson is an honest guy, Trump is known liar. Once a liar always a liar. I understand you can't quit him but Trump is fitting you for lead ankle weights in a sea of rising discontent with his actions. I know you think everything is great and terrific but when the waters rise and your Trump is great ankle weights keep below the water, Remember who you outsourced your conservatism to: A reality TV star with no conservative core.

Nemont
 
Really? Prove your statement that I said Tillerson was the "worst ever", just like Trump you can't lie about things and then tell everyone it is the truth.

I said I admired Tillerson. He had mission impossible, Trying to explain to the rest of the world that even though we had a nut job in the White House that America still meant to keep it's word and our commitments. Now that voice is gone.

For Trump's Dumb Stooges to cheer the chaos your beloved guy is creating shows how far even fake conservatives have fallen in what they are willing to accept.

Nemont
 
"Tillerson is an honest guy".

Really a ex-ceo of a major oil company is a honest guy by your standards.

RELH

Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson Hung Out With Sanctioned Russians Today ...



https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/06/...tillerson-hung.../372894/


Jun 16, 2014 - Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson Hung Out With Sanctioned Russians Today. While the United States government has discouraged American attendance, Tillerson has historically close ties with both Vladimir Putin and Igor Sechin ? who is currently under sanctions as the head of Rosneft.
 
>"Tillerson is an honest guy".
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>oil company is a honest
>guy by your standards.
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So wait!!! You're saying that CEOs of major oil companies are dishonest???
That's comforting since Trump seems to pray to them like they are gods. He is running his entire interior department with big energy at the forefront, public lands and all. "Energy dominance!" The environment be damned!
 
>"Tillerson is an honest guy".
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>Really a ex-ceo of a major
>oil company is a honest
>guy by your standards.
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>Rex Tillerson Hung Out With
>Sanctioned Russians Today. While the
>United States government has discouraged
>American attendance, Tillerson has historically
>close ties with both Vladimir
>Putin and Igor Sechin ?
>who is currently under sanctions
>as the head of Rosneft.
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So now the media is honest in their take on things? I can't keep up with what Trump's Dumb Stooges use to get their information and which is fake news.

Tillerson is an honest broker who pulled himself up by the bootstraps to become CEO of the largest oil Company in the U.S.

He is old school, his word is is bond. Unlike the President whose word isn't worth a plug nickle.

Nemont
 
>And the left has been hammering
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Who gives a shyt what the left says about anyone? I hammered Obama's appointed cabinet members just like you did. Since you can't quit Trump why not explain how this firing helps the country? Or is the country now 2nd in importance and Trump is far more important to you?

What skills does Pompeo have?

The Conservative in the Senate says he is a shytty choice.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/378353-rand-paul-to-oppose-pompeo-haspel

Nemont
 
It seems your favorite conservative also has jelly for a backbone. Just what kind of message does Rand Paul want the president to send to other countries. Hopefully not the message that Obama sent.

RELH
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Sen. Rand Paul said Wednesday the nomination of Gina Haspel to be CIA director is "the wrong kind of message to send to the world" due to her connection with enhanced interrogation and waterboarding in the Bush administration.

"She believes that waterboarding should be something that we use, and I think America shouldn't be known for torture," Paul (R-Ky.) said on "Outnumbered Overtime."
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-14-18 AT 10:44PM (MST)[p]Dude I quit giving McCain any credit years ago. He is a RINO. If he is referring to the water boarding, he can kiss my butt. Water boarding worked and save lives of innocent people and it even gave us the trusted courier for Osama bin Laden that finally led to raid that killed that damn terrorist.
Water boarding of a terrorist should always be an option to save lives. Those terrorist you are trying to protect is well noted for chopping off people's heads and burning them alive in cages.

RELH
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U.S. Senate candidate Todd Wilcox said the controversial interrogation practice of waterboarding isn't torture but an effective tool in the global war on terror.

It gets results, he said.

In an interview published in the Miami Herald on May 20, Wilcox blamed the White House for limiting the country?s ability to gain intelligence from alleged terrorists.

"I can tell you that the enhanced interrogation techniques that have since been banned by this administration ? specifically waterboarding ? work," said Wilcox, who is vying for the Republican nomination to replace Sen. Marco Rubio. "They work on the terrorists, and there's a proven history of that."

Wilcox didn't consider the practice to be torture, and also said while he didn't advocate overusing waterboarding, it's an option that should be available for interrogators.

We wanted to know if waterboarding ? strapping a prisoner to a board or table and then pouring water over a cloth covering their mouth and nose to simulate drowning ? was a proven method of questioning someone.

Torture vs. interrogation

Waterboarding was one of the "enhanced interrogation techniques" used on terrorism suspects by American interrogators in the years after the Sept. 11 attacks. President Barack Obama banned the practice by executive order in 2009. It's recently been revived in politics after GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump advocated for waterboarding and "a hell of a lot worse" should he be elected.

Wilcox, an Orlando defense contractor, noted to PolitiFact Florida through his spokeswoman that some high-ranking officials including former Vice President ##### Cheney, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and former CIA Director Leon Panetta credited waterboarding for producing valuable intelligence.

The former Green Beret and CIA officer told the Herald that he has "access to a lot of information that the rest of the public may not know" from which to draw his conclusion. But PolitiFact can't make a judgment based on information that's classified or otherwise not readily available to the public, so we don't consider that assertion as proof.

Wilcox didn't elaborate further on his assertion there was evidence waterboarding worked. But those declarations are lacking real evidence, either historically or in the recent past, experts told us.
 
>Trump's campaign almost assuredly had direct
>contact with Russians and if
>Trump didn't know about shows
>either he is incompetent as
>a boss or that he
>picked some real shytty people
>to run his campaign.
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>Either way Mueller has enough work
>to do to stay busy
>for probably at least another
>6 to 12 months.
>Imagine if Trump had half
>a brain to do the
>right thing and there wouldn't
>be a Mueller investigation.
>
>Nemont

Most likely they did. But we know without a doubt that the Clinton campaign did. And not just contact, but MONEY and URANIUM changed hands with the DRMOCRAT campaign. That we KNOW FOR A FACT.

As for Trump? Its going on 2 years, still missing any evidence.

But be honest. Mueller will either wrap it up the night after the midterms when the repubs win. Or he will leave it open for all of Trumps term if the Dems win.

That wet dream of impeachment payback from the dems is all this ever was.




From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-15-18 AT 07:51AM (MST)[p]Okay I will type slower, can you find the special counsel that is appointed to deal with the Clinton campaign? If Trump is the stable genius you all and he claims to be there wouldn't be a Mueller investigation, period.

Also if you clowns keep thinking the Uranium One deal is Clinton's Achilles Heal you are either stupid or illiterate. There are some obvious Clinton dealing you Trumpettes ignore and keep focused on Uranium One because Trump tells you to. Do this find the actual facts and tell me and yourself the Truth for once. How many pounds of uranium have we exported to Russia? How many cabinet level officials signed of on the deal?

It amazes me that phony conservatives are willing to be used as useful idiots just have to say they supported all things Trump.

Nemont
 
NeMont is right about the uranium deal. Search it out.

As weird as Trump is I think it's a breath of fresh air to stir the sh!t pot government up a little. If you work for Trump, you'll either love it or hate it, but you will work your ass off.

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>Dude I quit giving McCain any
>credit years ago. He is
>a RINO.

That is funny from a guy in love with the Ultimate RINO sitting in the White HOuse

>If he is
>referring to the water boarding,
>he can kiss my butt.
>Water boarding worked and save
>lives of innocent people and
>it even gave us the
>trusted courier for Osama bin
>Laden that finally led to
>raid that killed that damn
>terrorist.

You may wish to revisit how Al Kuwaiti's name came out instead of relying on the narrative you hear on Fox News. Check and see who first got the name and who gave it up. Start with the Kurds detaining Hassan Ghul.

>Wilcox didn't elaborate further on his
>assertion there was evidence waterboarding
>worked. But those declarations are
>lacking real evidence, either historically
>or in the recent past,
>experts told us.

It is no wonder that you are a diehard Trumpette, you don't deal with real evidence any more. Your police skills have atrophied to the point of being useless.

Nemont
 
> Need evidence ? looks
>like you're going to get
>it be patient.
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>committee admit they have no
>credibility . but
>that's good enough for Trump
>and FAUX to call game
>over.
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>comrades.
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Only a moron would believe Schiff ,he got a prank phone call from Russian comedians , maybe you or someone could post up that phone call......have another swig
 
Trump announced Tuesday that he had chosen Haspel to succeed Mike Pompeo, who is the president's pick to replace ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Several senators, including some Republicans, have said that Haspel must give a full account of her involvement in the CIA's interrogation program in the early days of the War on Terror.

"Current U.S. law is clear in banning enhanced interrogation techniques," said U.S. Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., who was beaten as a prisoner during the Vietnam War. "Any nominee for director of the CIA must pledge without reservation to uphold this prohibition."

Republican senator from Kentucky says Gina Haspel's connection to waterboarding and enhanced interrogation of terror suspects makes her the wrong person to lead the CIA and sends the wrong message to the world.

The original ProPublica article, published Feb. 22, 2017, alleged that Haspel was chief of base at the Thailand site where accused terrorist Abu Zubaydah was interrogated in 2002. Engelberg said that after the original article was published, at least two of Haspel's former colleagues told them that she did not take up that position "until late in 2002, after the waterboarding of Zubaydah had ended."



The original ProPublica article, citing a book written by former interrogator James Mitchell, claimed Haspel went to Zubaydah's cell and "congratulated him on the fine quality of his acting."

"Good job! I like the way you're drooling; it adds realism," the article quoted Haspel as saying. "I'm almost buying it. You wouldn't think a grown man would do that."

Dana Perino Defends Gina Haspel

However, Mitchell told Fox Business Network on Wednesday that Haspel was not the chief of base who made those comments to Zubaydah, saying she was "not the [chief of base] I was talking about" in his book.

In his statement, Engelberg noted that Mitchell's book had identified the Thailand chief of base as "both 'he' and she.'"

"We erroneously assumed that this was an effort by Mitchell or the agency to conceal the gender of the single official involved," he wrote. "t is now clear that Mitchell was referring to two different people."


From Mike Pompeo to Gina Haspel, a look at the CIA's newest director who's breaking the glass ceiling.

The New York Times, which published a similar story to the ProPublica article on Feb. 2, 2017, reported Tuesday that Haspel was chief of base when another Al Qaeda suspect, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, was waterboarded three times during interrogations.

The Thailand prison closed in December 2002 and Haspel returned to Washington. Three years later, she reportedly pushed her supervisors to destroy tapes of Zubaydah's interrogations. Engelberg, the ProPublica editor-in-chief, said that his publication "did accurately report" on Haspel's role during the al-Nashiri interrogation and in the destruction of the Zubaydah tapes.

Former CIA Director John Brennan has declined to say what Haspel's exact role was in the interrogation program, but he told NBC News on Tuesday that she has a "lot of integrity" and has tried to carry out her agency duties "when asked to do difficult things in challenging times."

In the same interview, Brennan predicted Haspel would be confirmed. "Gina is a very competent professional who I think deserves the chance to take the seat," he said.

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So much for fake news and McCain and Paul falling for it just like our two on board Trump haters.

RELH
 
RELH,

Of course she will be confirmed the question will be at what cost to her and Trump.

How you can hate McCain as a RINO and love Trump, is beyond even trying to understand. Trump has sacrificed absolutely zero in the way of service to this nation and McCain at least answered the call and did a horrific stint in Hanoi Hilton. McCain has voted for and supported some of the major Republican policies going back to the contract with America. Trump at that time was hobnobbing with Clintons, talking about how the economy always does better under Democrats, was pro abortion, pro universal health and giving money to New York liberal Democrats. He was against most conservative and Republican policies. The biggest phony of all is Trump when it comes to being conservative or Republican yet you will defend him no matter what he does.

So you outsourced your phony conservatism to Trump, you don't support the single consistent conservative in the senate and you don't support McCain because he is a RINO but support Trump who is the epitome of a RINO. That is kind of the trifecta for a Trumpette: phony, disloyal to conservatism and supporting more debt, war and welfare. As the founding member of Trump's Dumb Stooges here you certainly sit in a place of dishonor. Your politics and support is for sale to who ever puts an R after there name regardless of what actually happens.

Nemont
 
Nemont McCain is part of the problem in Congress being one of the "good old boys" that look after themselves instead of the people that voted them in.

As for Rand Paul, he is a idiot running around looking for every sound bite he can get with the press. He wants to run for President and sticks his face in front of the cameras every chance he gets and promotes his views.

The only problem is that he is so far right that he will never be elected President by the voting majority. Most women voters can not tolerate his views and libs and even moderates think he is as far right as Pelosi or Schiff is far left. In the meantime he is more of a obstacle in getting things done with the economy, immigration, with his radical views and obstruction to get his face in front of the camera to tell his side of the story.
He is in the same class as Pelosi, just at opposite ends of the pole.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-16-18 AT 09:58AM (MST)[p]What ever sunshine. You can tell yourself what ever makes your world Orange. The facts speak for themselves. Rand Paul is consistently conservative and more importantly he is a fiscal conservative. Trump wants both spending and tax cuts, that is a RINO position on fiscal policy.

Think about the budget he just signed and explain why it is a RINO budget that increased domestic discretionary $130 billion more than Obama spent on welfare.

McCain will soon be out of office but Trump will still be there racking up debt. Not a single Trumpettes will oppose it either. You all will make excuse after excuse for him.

Nemont
 
Actually Paul is one of the closest things to a real conservative in congress. I don't always agree with him but he has principles and he sticks with them. unlike you lying fake conservatard's that say and do whatever FOX tells you to.


McCain's problem is he's not always right but he always puts America first. that's sure to draw outrage from fake conservatives. and you're proof it does.




Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
You know as well as I do that Trump does not have the power to make extreme budget cuts as the Democrats will strongly oppose it and shout it to the world.

You falsely blame Trump when it is a fact that he has to go along with some spending to placate the Democrats and their liberal goals. McCain is part of that problem also along with some other GOP members who do not want the Democrats to make them out as heartless devils that want to bleed the poor and downtrodden. Which would mean they will lose their next election.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-16-18 AT 03:12PM (MST)[p]Some spending? Try another $2 Trillion, who put the gun to his head to sign the bills that spent that money? Are you saying that only way Republicans can be relevant to continue to act like Democrats?

Obama didn't add all that debt during his term? What about Bush and Clinton, they shouldn't get the blame for what happened on their watch? Or is just that Trump is special so no blame can be placed on him? Is there anything he could do you wouldn't make an excuse up for him because he is your guy?

Nemont
 
Only 6 months to blow the last Trillion. However since we have Trump and Republican control of Congress debt no longer matters The Trumpettes don't care even a little bit because unlike Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, Bush2 and Obama, Trump shouldn't be blamed for what actually happens.


National debt hits $21 trillion
by Pete Kasperowicz
| March 16, 2018 04:20 PM


The national debt exceeded $21 trillion for the first time on Thursday, a little more than six months after it hit first $20 trillion on Sept. 8.

The national debt was $21.031 trillion on Thursday. The government releases total debt figures each business day, but it lags by one day.

Federal borrowing has been on the rise again since February, when Congress passed legislation to suspend the debt ceiling. That move allowed the government to borrow as much as it needs to fund the activities approved by Congress.


Under the law passed in February, the government will not face any borrowing limit until March 1, 2019. At its current pace, the government is on track to add at least $1 trillion to the national debt by then.

For example, the debt grew by more than half a trillion dollars in the six weeks since the debt ceiling was lifted on Feb. 9.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/national-debt-hits-21-trillion
 
Don't worry about it. the tax cuts are going to fix EEEEEVVVVEEEEERRRRRYYYYY thing. just you wait and see.


And don't worry about the money for the wall either. Mexico is going to pay for that. just you wait and see.














Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
I am waiting to see. I will give Trump until the end of this term to make up my mind if I vote for him again or someone else.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-18 AT 05:28PM (MST)[p]I wouldn't ever want to be included inside Trump?s clique: Flying HIV carriers around the country to cheat with, paying off pornstars you bang and lying every day about things that can easily proven? That sounds more like heaven to a Jack Mormon Utard. I bet Trump would even let you bring your LaVoy blow up doll, as long as you share. Well as long as you keep those magic underwear on .

It would be a great and terrific thing for all three of you. Watch the spray tan and don't ride bareback, ya might catch something.

Nemont
 
FAUX news is all Trump knows about him too.

I wonder what Trump will say when he finds out Bolton was a cheerleader for the " worst mistake in history " .













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-18
>AT 05:28?PM (MST)
>
>I wouldn't ever want to be
>included inside Trump?s clique:
>Flying HIV carriers around the
>country to cheat with, paying
>off pornstars you bang and
>lying every day about things
>that can easily proven?
>That sounds more like heaven
>to a Jack Mormon Utard.
> I bet Trump would
>even let you bring your
>LaVoy blow up doll, as
>long as you share.
>Well as long as you
>keep those magic underwear on
>.
>
>It would be a great and
>terrific thing for all three
>of you. Watch
>the spray tan and don't
>ride bareback, ya might catch
>something.
>
>Nemont
LOL..... Who gives a rats ass what you say Nemont,you have already said you were never serious and just here to to piss someone off.
 

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