Another School Blood Bath

i think there was one earlier in the week but it didn't get any press because the shooter was shot by a security guard before they hurt anyone. I've gotta give it to you idiot liberals, you stick to your agenda.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-18-18 AT 09:28AM (MST)[p] I want Ocho to make a video of himself using a chop saw cutting his guns up.
 
Ropinfool, that story got buried because it didn't end the way Ocho hoped it would. Bummer for him.

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Dude- they will come to your home and confiscate all your shotguns now. Liberals just can't figure out that it is the media hype, video games, movies and parenting that is the real cause.
 
Dude once they take your shotgun, you can still chucker hunt with a recurve and flu flu arrows have fun.
 
Looks like this nut job had an array of weapons; an AR-15,
shotgun, pistol, and pipe bombs. The only thing we will keep
hearing about will be that an AR-15 was involved.
 
OK, let's be truthful here. I see several main stream media outlets running this story about the resource officer stopping the shooting in Dixon, Illinois this week. Some are even calling him a hero.


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>OK, let's be truthful here. I
>see several main stream media
>outlets running this story about
>the resource officer stopping the
>shooting in Dixon, Illinois this
>week. Some are even calling
>him a hero.
>
>
>
22317illinois.jpg


And your point?
 
LAST EDITED ON May-18-18 AT 02:54PM (MST)[p]you had to do a little searching to find it, it wasn't plastered all over msn. no liberal politician was on the news praising the security guard. it might have gotten two minutes of airtime.
 
Now some news source is saying a Shotgun & a Pistol have been recovered at the scene, along with possible explosive devices.
Perhaps the AR-15 report was a little premature on their part.
 
Ropin, All I did is type in school shooting this week into Google. I'm not arguing that the media, ALL the media, skews what we see and what they report. I just don't like big bold statements that aren't accurate being passed of as true just to inflame people. I see Fox news also had some internet coverage on this. Was it plastered all over their TV time? I'm asking a serious question because I don't know.
 
They Start Screaming AR-15 just like Dude Screaming RAMBO Gun!

Go Ahead dude!

Hand Your F'N Elk Guns & your F'N Tweety Bird Guns in as Well!

I Don't Think anybody ever Answered the Question on Previous Threads/Posts!

Me & My Friends Took Guns to School every F'N Day!

Nobody got Hurt or Shot!

Why is that?








It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
NVbighorn, the major news agencies gave very little time to the school shooting that was stopped by the security officer. It amounted to just seconds of air time from what I saw and not the normal amount of time when it fits the anti gun scenario.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON May-18-18 AT 07:01PM (MST)[p]>Ropin, All I did is type
>in school shooting this week
>into Google. I'm not arguing
>that the media, ALL the
>media, skews what we see
>and what they report. I
>just don't like big bold
>statements that aren't accurate being
>passed of as true just
>to inflame people. I see
>Fox news also had some
>internet coverage on this. Was
>it plastered all over their
>TV time? I'm asking a
>serious question because I don't
>know.

So NVB?

You Think Handing in your RAM Guns will Fix it all?












It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
It's great to see all the high fives and chuckles that these kids weren't murdered with a man card gun. HAPPY DAYS !!!!. phuk heads.

It's tragic no matter what weapon as used. unlike you losers I'm very thankful this little cull didn't have access to a Rambo gun or there'd be far far more shot up kids and cops today.

That's something everyone should agree on.





Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>It's great to see all the
>high fives and chuckles
>that these kids weren't murdered
>with a man card gun.
> HAPPY DAYS
>!!!!. phuk
>heads.
>
> It's tragic no matter what
>weapon as used.
>unlike you losers I'm very
>thankful this little cull didn't
>have access to a Rambo
>gun or there'd be far
>far more shot up kids
>and cops today.
>
> That's something everyone should agree
>on.
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
HAVE ANOTHER OR TWO SWIGS
 
>It's great to see all the
>high fives and chuckles
>that these kids weren't murdered
>with a man card gun.
> HAPPY DAYS
>!!!!. phuk
>heads.
>
> It's tragic no matter what
>weapon as used.
>unlike you losers I'm very
>thankful this little cull didn't
>have access to a Rambo
>gun or there'd be far
>far more shot up kids
>and cops today.
>
> That's something everyone should agree
>on.
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends


You Should Think about all the BS You've been Babblin for Years!

THINK!

THINK!

You Want RAMBO Guns Banned/Taken away!

Even if they Could do it!

The Murdering BASTARDS will move to the next best Tool!

And that Would Include your F'N Favorite Elk/Tweety Bird Guns!

Then You & The Rest of thew F'N JOKERS in this country will want them Banned as Well!

Wake the Hell Up!









It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
>[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED
>
>So NVB?
>
>You Think Handing in your RAM
>Guns will Fix it all?
>
>
>

No Bess. I have never once said we should hand in our guns. NEVER


I have only said your old signature made you look stupid.
 
RELH, I have no doubt you are accurate when you say "gave very little time". "didn't get any" is what was said.
 
So... you're getting bent out of shape because "didn't get any" is a bold statement versus "gave very little time"?

Come on NV just stop it already. You're trying like hell to make someone look stupid and it's working, just not on the person you want it to.

Whenever there is a school shooting involving a "scary" gun, it gets hours of news coverage per day for at least a week. Whenever a resource officer stops a potential massacre with a gun you hear, "And in today's news, a school resource officer shot a school shooter before he could kill anyone and in other news, some English prince is getting married."

When someone says "didn't get any", smart people don't take it literally but more take it as it was intended meaning didn't get nearly as much. If you really want to try to make people look stupid, you should start attacking Ochocoward's posts because they are stupid people gold.
 
>>[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED
>>
>>So NVB?
>>
>>You Think Handing in your RAM
>>Guns will Fix it all?
>>
>>
>>
>
>No Bess. I have never once
>said we should hand in
>our guns. NEVER
>
>
>I have only said your old
>signature made you look stupid.
>


Truthful!

Not Stupid!









It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
One more thing NVB!

Since time began!

I've said taking Guns Ain't Much Different than Raising Taxes!

The PUSSSSIES in this Country will let it happen!

SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY!

But!

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURELY!

Ocho Don't get that F'N Part!








It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
>It's great to see all the
>high fives and chuckles
>that these kids weren't murdered
>with a man card gun.
> HAPPY DAYS
>!!!!. phuk
>heads.
>
> It's tragic no matter what
>weapon as used.
>unlike you losers I'm very
>thankful this little cull didn't
>have access to a Rambo
>gun or there'd be far
>far more shot up kids
>and cops today.
>
> That's something everyone should agree
>on.
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends


Question for You Ocho?

How F'N hard do you Think it is to get ahold of an Automatic weapon?

Until KSL PUSSED Out anybody in this state could buy any Guns they wanted!

And You still can!











It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
>So... you're getting bent out of
>shape because "didn't get any"
>is a bold statement versus
>"gave very little time"?
>
>Come on NV just stop it
>already. You're trying like
>hell to make someone look
>stupid and it's working, just
>not on the person you
>want it to.
>
>Whenever there is a school shooting
>involving a "scary" gun, it
>gets hours of news coverage
>per day for at least
>a week. Whenever a
>resource officer stops a potential
>massacre with a gun you
>hear, "And in today's news,
>a school resource officer shot
>a school shooter before he
>could kill anyone and in
>other news, some English prince
>is getting married."
>
>When someone says "didn't get any",
>smart people don't take it
>literally but more take it
>as it was intended meaning
>didn't get nearly as much.
> If you really want
>to try to make people
>look stupid, you should start
>attacking Ochocoward's posts because they
>are stupid people gold.

Calif,

I find Ochos posts to be somewhat entertaining because they piss you guys off so bad and sometimes he's right, which pisses you off even more.

When I read the "didn't get any" statement I honestly didn't know if that was true and it pissed me off if it was true. I have been away from tv and news more than I've been near it the last few weeks so I wanted to read the story. I googled it and low and behold, "Didn't get any" was an exaggeration at best. People have grown so accustomed to our President lying ALL THE FUGGING time that now we can't tell the truth ourselves. Honesty has gone out the window in this country. We will literally say anything if it promotes our views.

The "Didn't get any" coverage comment was for dramatic effect. I get it. But it wasn't true. Maybe I look stupid. I'm in good company here.
 
You are also more to the left then you are to the right. You must have voted for Harry Reid when he was running.

RELH
 
Wrong again RELH. I never voted for Harry Reid. But nice try at making me out to be the villain. What exactly that has to do with anything is anyone's guess. I guess it's just more of the same... when you haven't got anything else call em a bent wrist liberal.
 
NV

Don?t worry about being called a lefty by guys who proudly take with both hands and voted for massive new debt. They are as fake as their conservative credentials. To not be included as a clown show member all you need is a brain.

School shootings are just part of a free society, that is what the clown show will tell you. You either accept the body count as part of living in America or you are a commie. Solutions to school shooting are for the weak who don't know that piling up dead kids is worth it in order to be free. Just ask them.

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
See there's the problem. But NV won't call out Nemont on that BS. There has been solutions offered up many times but the left only wants the banning guns solution. Hardening schools just like we do government buildings is the most obvious best solution but it doesn't fit the agenda.

So NV are you going to call out Nemont on his BS like you do everyone else except him and Ochocoward?

DW, in my earlier post I was not necessarily blaming the coach for this massacre. He could be one cog in the whole machine though. You gave a perfect example of being in the military and the drill instructor turning boys into men by roughing them up a little and attacking their character. The problem with that is that the military is a much more controlled environment where those that can't take it are sent packing.

In school, the kid getting bullied doesn't get to be removed from the people attacking him. He goes to school every day and endures the abuse because like every other kid he just wants to make it through. Zero tolerance policies only help the bully and teachers and administrators are essentially powerless these days.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-19-18 AT 11:24AM (MST)[p]I understand CA but I was referring to that decorated vietnam veteran football coach turning boys to men. He did it because of what he faced right out of high school and wanted his players to be ready for whatever faced them upon graduation. Thanx to him, boot camp was a breeze for me while others fell apart like a Mexican briefcase. I realize some high school coaches are over the top and maybe that was the case in this situation but I'll still wait to see all there will be to see about this kid in the coming days before I hang it around the neck of a football coach that's probably only paid a couple grand for a season.

P.S. is bullying an issue in schools? Sure it is, always has been. I still got a lump on my head from when an upperclassmen turned his class ring around and clapped me upside the head. But we never shot up the school, and we weren't doped up like a Kentucky derby horse either!

#livelikezac
 
More body bags is what the left wants and hopes for in order for them to further their agenda. Hardening the target will not further their agenda. They're cheering for more dead kids!



#livelikezac
 
Calif,

If hardening the target or placing more trained officers in the schools can happen then by all means let's do it. I don't want every teacher armed because I know many who aren't smart enough to be. I agree, the gun control nuts agenda won't work, and it isn't really about school shootings at all. For the record, and hopefully the last time, I am 100% in favor of gun ownership by responsible people. I own dozens of guns including black rifles and high cap mags. Nobody is going to take my guns without a fight. But this is the first, and hopefully the last, time I advertise that to the world.

I didn't know you were the post keeper who charts whether or not I call out everyone equally. Maybe everyone should get a participation trophy so they feel better about themselves. I don't call out Ocho because I know from the past it's a waste of time. He has his opinion and I dont care to argue with him. And sometimes he is right and you all sh!t your pants and call names and act like ##### children. You all sit around and shove words into Nemonts mouth and just like you do to me, you make him out to be something he's not. He is not at all a liberal in my books. Neither am I. We are realists. He has his conservative mantra about the debt, which he is 100% correct on. I have a middle of the road opinion but RELH seems to think middle of the road has to be on the right side of middle or its not acceptable. I will freely admit, I do not like Trump the man and will continue to point out his lies. I have no respect for that or for those who defend it as normal or acceptable. I voted for him because the alternative was unacceptable.

I get tired of the little +1 club here who slap each other on the back whenever someone with a firing brain cell or two like DW or you post a complete thought. And then they advance some unsubstantiated opinion and treat it like its gospel. They offer nothing to me so I will offer nothing to them except to point out their bullshit.
 
There is no gun issue involved with this shooting. He used a shotgun and a revolver. I don't see what the big fuss is all about. That was totally acceptable at Parkland, Florida.

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NV you're right in that most teachers definitely should not carry. But there are plenty who are capable of shouldering that responsibility. I grew up in a small town in Central Minnesota and bird Hunted with several of my teachers and later shot on trap and skeet leagues with the same teachers. Those guys would have been more than qualified. I don't think I was ever taught by a teacher that didn't have my and my classmates best interests at heart. I'd be willing to bet there would be a lot of principles, admin staff, janitorial and maintenance staff as well as teachers capable of carrying in schools. A handful of these people in each School along with tightening School entrances and removing the stupid signs that Proclaim "gun-free zone, come and shoot us, we will offer no resistance" would go a long way in turning this thing around!



#livelikezac
 
LAST EDITED ON May-19-18 AT 01:34PM (MST)[p]+1 DW :) . And I mean that. I didn't say NO teachers. I said not every.

Edit: Trained and qualified is a must.
 
>Calif,
>
>If hardening the target or placing
>more trained officers in the
>schools can happen then by
>all means let's do it.
>I don't want every teacher
>armed because I know many
>who aren't smart enough to
>be. I agree, the gun
>control nuts agenda won't work,
>and it isn't really about
>school shootings at all. For
>the record, and hopefully the
>last time,



I am 100%
>in favor of gun ownership
>by responsible people. I own
>dozens of guns including black
>rifles and high cap mags.
>Nobody is going to take
>my guns without a fight.

Not Much Different there NVB than My Old Signature!

You're Just Nicer at Saying it!:D




>But this is the first,
>and hopefully the last, time
>I advertise that to the
>world.
>
>I didn't know you were the
>post keeper who charts whether
>or not I call out
>everyone equally. Maybe everyone should
>get a participation trophy so
>they feel better about themselves.
>I don't call out Ocho
>because I know from the
>past it's a waste of
>time. He has his opinion
>and I dont care to
>argue with him. And sometimes
>he is right and you
>all sh!t your pants and
>call names and act like
>##### children. You all sit
>around and shove words into
>Nemonts mouth and just like
>you do to me, you
>make him out to be
>something he's not. He is
>not at all a liberal
>in my books. Neither am
>I. We are realists. He
>has his conservative mantra about
>the debt, which he is
>100% correct on. I have
>a middle of the road
>opinion but RELH seems to
>think middle of the road
>has to be on the
>right side of middle or
>its not acceptable. I will
>freely admit, I do not
>like Trump the man and
>will continue to point out
>his lies. I have no
>respect for that or for
>those who defend it as
>normal or acceptable. I voted
>for him because the alternative
>was unacceptable.
>
>I get tired of the little
>+1 club here who slap
>each other on the back
>whenever someone with a firing
>brain cell or two like
>DW or you post a
>complete thought. And then they
>advance some unsubstantiated opinion and
>treat it like its gospel.
>They offer nothing to me
>so I will offer nothing
>to them except to point
>out their bullshit.












It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
Maybe they could Hire a Few More Security Officers that could Hide when times get tough?











It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
>LAST EDITED ON May-19-18
>AT 01:34?PM (MST)
>
>+1 DW :) . And I
>mean that. I didn't say
>NO teachers. I said not
>every.
>
>Edit: Trained and qualified is a
>must.

?
#livelikezac
 
NV I'm not the post keeper on this forum, that would be FTW. I just pointed out that you called BS on one person for what everyone knew was an exaggerated statement but didn't say anything to the guy that posted complete BS.

It's all good though. Hardening the schools is the only way.
 
I agree with this article for the most part.

Like many in Santa Fe, the pastor didn't fault guns. He faulted himself, and society. Schools need help to improve security, but that won't prevent shootings, he said. Neither will prayer alone, he added.
"We have created a culture that does not value life, that does not honor God, that does not respect authority. We are reaping the consequences of those actions, and that's not going to be reversed by a security guard or a metal detector," he said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...shooting-isnt-guns/ar-AAxwRaT?ocid=spartandhp
 
>I agree with this article for
>the most part.
>
>Like many in Santa Fe, the
>pastor didn't fault guns. He
>faulted himself, and society. Schools
>need help to improve security,
>but that won't prevent shootings,
>he said. Neither will prayer
>alone, he added.
>"We have created a culture that
>does not value life, that
>does not honor God, that
>does not respect authority. We
>are reaping the consequences of
>those actions, and that's not
>going to be reversed by
>a security guard or a
>metal detector," he said.
>
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...shooting-isnt-guns/ar-AAxwRaT?ocid=spartandhp
+1
 
LAST EDITED ON May-20-18 AT 12:50PM (MST)[p]
Agree eel. One is immediate and treats the symptom. The other, mentioned in the article, will take decades but will cure the disease. It took us decades to get here, it will take us decades to get where we need to go, if we ever get there.


P.S. Oddly I just now watched Oliver North Just about parrot my exact words on fox news Sunday.



#livelikezac
 
https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/dan-patricks-school-shooting-idea-not-crazy-just-unworkable/

You clowns should stop acting like you would be willing to be taxed further to pay for hardening schools. It will come out of the classroom budgets and then you will kab!cth that teachers aren't teaching.

Many schools don't have the resources to pay for training and equipping even willing teachers and there is no way most state legislatures is going to pony up the money to do. Or to pay for armed guards. The clown show on here already says they pay too much in taxes and won't support spending what it would take to harden schools.

Get real. You want a solution without be willing to pay for it.

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Bullshit, in CA we are building a dumbass train to nowhere for billions upon billions of dollars which is more than enough money to harden every school in the state. My son's high school just implemented a one entrance only to the school with the school resource officer stationed there in the mornings. That didn't cost a damned thing and is a good step in the right direction. Throw in a metal detector for them to walk through and you're golden.

I don't know why you make everything so dramatic. One entrance to the school with a few staff, a resource officer and a metal detector is really all you need. Kids place all their metal objects in a container and walk through the metal detector just like at the courthouse or the airport. Hell, even Disneyland does this easily and effectively. Sure the schools that are wide open with no fencing are going to incur substantial costs but it's all about priorities. Taxes don't have to be raised to get this done at all. Redirect monies that are already there to priority projects that will make our kids safe.

Here's a good read, it's from the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission and after a two year study, they determined that among other things, hardening the schools is a key part of the equation.

http://www.shac.ct.gov/SHAC_Final_Report_3-6-2015.pdf

I'm happy to be part of the clown show if hardening schools is the clown show's solution. What is your solution? What Rambo gun ban would have stopped the Texas school shooting?
 
> Lets just send the kids
>to the middle east for
>an education so we don't
>have to confront this situation.
> they stand a better
>chance with ragheads then Trump
>chumps.
>
>
> It's safer to be a
>US soldier in the middle
>east than a student in
>the US.
>
>
>https://www.chron.com/local/article...More-students-or-teachers-killed-12927833.php
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Hows John Brennan doing ? hes on his knees right now begging Trump to stop,try sticking to your collusions.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-21-18 AT 02:42PM (MST)[p]Ca,

In the words of Ronald Reagan, there you go again. I never once said a single thing about taking anyone's guns, but if that makes you feel better to make stuff up have at it. The clown show knows no other way.

I said nobody is going to step up an pay for hardening the schools. Guaranteed that the state legislators in most states will not fund the cost and most districts don't have the money to do it. Priorities is correct and then the next thing that will happen is that the money will come from the resources that would have went into to classrooms. Then the fake conservatives will whine that our results are slipping further.

You are smart enough to know that money for your governor's rail line isn't going to be made magically available for school security just because. Your California legislature will not pass a law using state money for such a purpose as arming teachers, hiring more guards and hardening schools. That means it would fall to local taxpayers inside the districts. Let me know how that would go over for most taxpayers.

Reports and recommendations are worth the paper they are written on if the political will and public demand don't exist to address any problem. There is not the will, demand or body count yet to move anybody towards a solution. So spare me the willingness to do anything because you are not going to get the State to spend less on the rail line and more on school security.

Nemont



Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Nemont, calm down son. Show me where I claimed that you said to take away guns. I NEVER claimed you were for gun control, I asked what is your solution?

I also never claimed that anything I proposed would pass California retarded government. The only thing I dispute is that there is not money to harden schools. There is plenty of money to harden schools if it was made a priority but it is not which is why I mentioned moonbeam's bullet train to nowhere. Not a single penny in people's taxes would have to be raised to do this if the will of the people and the state government would come together on this one thing.

You're right that there isn't enough of a body count for this to happen. It doesn't mean I can't state my opinion on what a good solution would be. Banning scary guns isn't the answer, that was just proven so either we tackle what causes these kids to go batshyt or we make it really hard for them to carry out their evil deed.

It's too politically incorrect to let kids fight out their differences so we have a zero tolerance policy that only emboldens the bully and the end result is mass casualty. I am thoroughly convinced that bullying is a major player in all of this but the stupid kids just want to hold rallies to talk about banning the guns that would be used to kill their bullying asses.
Maybe kids need to start having anti bullying rallies and start becoming whistle blowers on bullying instead of just standing there laughing while the victim is being mistreated.

Not sure why you think I made something up about you saying you wanted to ban guns, but believe me, making up lies about you is definitely not high on my to do list today.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-21-18 AT 03:54PM (MST)[p]Here the problem, saying that the rail line in California would provide the money is the same idea that we could buy one less F35 at $125 million a pop and fund all the school security in the north west region of the U.S. It ain't going to happen.

As the husband of a teacher I have a vested interest in school security, I still have a kid in college so I also have skin in the game there. The issue isn't guns themselves but one issue who we allow access to those guns, that is not in dispute.

I also don't believe the problem is the school's alone, the Communities and society share blame for creating an environment that makes randomly taking lives an answer to a particular grievance or evening the score a viable choice in anyone's mind.

All I know is that there isn't enough money to harden schools now but there is enough to waste $125 billion in the Pentagon and the way we deal with that is to give them an additional $160 Billion to spend. Nobody is prioritizing schools safety by putting their money where their mouth is.

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
You're absolutely right, it ain't going to happen, I agree. I also agree that we need to take a serious look at who can possess firearms. I've said it before, I'm ok with mental health evaluations before purchasing a firearm as long as it's my doctor that evaluates me and not some bureaucrat with an agenda.

Everything you said I can agree with. It doesn't make my solution part of the clown show just because it ain't going to happen and you still didn't show me where I said that you wanted to ban guns.
 
>
>I'm happy to be part of
>the clown show if hardening
>schools is the clown show's
>solution. What is your
>solution? What Rambo gun
>ban would have stopped the
>Texas school shooting?

Read the above, I never mentioned Rambo guns or bans yet you insinuate some how I have to answer for what banning them would do.

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
i actually agree with NeMont. but mental health evaluations before buying a gun probably won't work. it would in some cases but not in most. these evaluation can never predict who is capable of violence. for every one person who does these horrible acts of violence there's thousands more just like them who never take that step. you can't single out any weird person and say they can't own a gun if they haven't done anything. now if they have made threats, then yes take action. politicians and the media make blanket statements like "assult weaponds", and "mental health" but what does that mean? we all know there isn't much of a difference between most "assult" rifles and many hunting rifles. and whos to define who is mentally ok to own a gun and not? of course if you are skitsofrenic that's a no brainer but what if you suffer from depression? does that mean you can't own one? enforce the current laws not make new ones. we have to secure our schools and be able to defend ourselves. I say people with no common sense can own a gun....they ocho will have to give his up.
 
>i actually agree with NeMont.
>but mental health evaluations before
>buying a gun probably won't
>work. it would in
>some cases but not in
>most. these evaluation can
>never predict who is capable
>of violence. for every
>one person who does these
>horrible acts of violence there's
>thousands more just like them
>who never take that step.
> you can't single out
>any weird person and say
>they can't own a gun
>if they haven't done anything.
> now if they have
>made threats, then yes take
>action. politicians and the
>media make blanket statements like
>"assult weaponds", and "mental health"
> but what does that
>mean? we all know
>there isn't much of a
>difference between most "assult" rifles
>and many hunting rifles.
>and whos to define who
>is mentally ok to own
>a gun and not?
>of course if you are
>skitsofrenic that's a no brainer
>but what if you suffer
>from depression? does that
>mean you can't own one?
>enforce the current laws not
>make new ones. we
>have to secure our schools
>and be able to defend
>ourselves. I say people with
>no common sense can own
>a gun....they ocho will have
>to give his up.
I have to disagree what you said about Ocho ,even though I disagree with him , he is a long time hunter and knows a lot about firearms and never crossed my mind as being a danger.
 
Nemont, I wasn?t insinuating anything. I simply made a statement about Rambo guns because that is generally the knee jerk solution when these things happen. I wasn?t insinuating that you agreed with banning guns, but a good portion of our population does.

So far you have offered up mental health evaluations as your solution and I can agree with that but I don't think a mental health evaluation would have stopped this Texas school shooting. The kid stole his dad?s guns, and if he couldn't have got the guns, it looks like bombs would have been the next choice. It's already illegal to make the bombs but that didn't stop this kid. My point is that he never would have been able to even get through the gate if the school was hardened.
 
The fact is Rambo guns are the mass shooter's weapon of choice. and if this loser had access to one he would have used it and a lot more kids would be dead. it wasn't an option for him thankfully.

Consider Rambo very very lucky. not vindicated.











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
CA,

I said the public is not willing to pay to "harden" schools. I never said more security isn't part of a solution to anything. I am all for security and any measure that will keep armed people out of schools.

I just don't buy that it is a fix all or even much of a deterrent to anyone with the intent to plan and kill kids inside of schools. Look at the Sandy Hook shooting.

Ask yourself this question, how long ago was Columbine? 19 years ago, yet here we are with shootings continuing. So security of our children is not a priority to our society. We have spent $9.5 Trillion on the Pentagon in the last 19 years, nearly zero on school security. It's all about priorities

Nemont




Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-22-18 AT 12:45PM (MST)[p]They won't agree to pay to harden schools cause the media is telling them the only solution is gun control and confiscation and that the NRA is a bunch off redneck hicks that can barely tie their own shoes so they can't possibly have the answer. Sounds like some on here.



#livelikezac
 
That is total BS. Show me either side willing to fund school security by cutting some spending else where. They don't exist.


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
>That is total BS. Show
>me either side willing to
>fund school security by cutting
>some spending else where.
>They don't exist.
>
>
>Government is like a baby. An
>alimentary canal with a big
>appetite at one end and
>no responsibility at the other.
>


Florida is working it out
 
So was Texas, that is what nobody is talking about. The Santa Fe School was "hardened", I guess the good news is that the shooter on killed 10 not more.

Nemont



Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
what does "hardened" mean?? one security guard? I would think to go as far as restricted access with metal detectors. probably more security as well. works for courthouses, why not schools?
 
>what does "hardened" mean?? one
>security guard? I would
>think to go as far
>as restricted access with metal
>detectors. probably more security
>as well. works for
>courthouses, why not schools?

Works in inner cities too. Rural white kids that belong to the NRA aren't important.


#livelikezac
 
>So was Texas, that is what
>nobody is talking about.
>The Santa Fe School was
>"hardened", I guess the good
>news is that the shooter
>on killed 10 not more.
>
>
>Nemont
>
>
>
>Government is like a baby. An
>alimentary canal with a big
>appetite at one end and
>no responsibility at the other.
>

Bull sh$t
 
I call bullsh!t also. when a kid is noticed wearing a trenchcoat out of season and he still is allowed to make entry into the school building with a sawed off shotgun under that long coat, that is not a "harden" facility.

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