Dump some gas on the fire

Killed between motel 6 and mcDonalds on the south end of Ely. It was quite a hunt. Only had to pay 49 finder fee's because it was early AM and not many people were up yet.

JB
 
LMAO! I thought they jus tbought the finder a happy meal. But heard he got pissed and left because they told him he couldn't play with the toy until he ate all his nuggets.
Awesome bull though! Can't wait to see what Ut. is going to produce. Tough to beat 436!
 
Are they not still in the velvet?

The Az. back porch bull and this Nv. bull be a little higher scoring in a few more weeks if left alive for that time frame?

So they take the velvet off and then score it?

Robb
 
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-DallanC
 
That's the nutters bull.. just curious how the folks in that photo actually found that bull..what do you know NUNYA
 
Nutters bull??Should be called the blind bull for missing those two dudes in their powder blue uniforms. Sweet bull though.
 
Seems a little early to me, heck of a nice bull though, I would have let him keep growing for a few more weeks though.
 
>Seems a little early to me,
>heck of a nice bull
>though, I would have let
>him keep growing for a
>few more weeks though.

Look at his right side, he is DONE growing. As are most of the bigger bulls by now.

PRO
 
>They were disguised as his caretakers.
> Have we resorted to
>hunting in the summer now?
>


Good way to get them before they break.

I fear the end of this sport is near.
 
How freakin ridiculous. At least let their anltlers get done growing. Now we are hunting bulls in July? and clear through December. Nice.
 
Maybe they want to harvest the velvet and sell it to help re-coup some of their finders fees. Is this this years tag, or last years tag like in Arizona?
 
RE: Double Cross Bull

LAST EDITED ON Jul-30-07 AT 06:50PM (MST)[p]Way to go MARK LANE and ALAN SHEAR. Nothing like betraying your friends that found this bull so you can have all the glory for yourselves. Why don't you tell us the truth about how you found this bull.

That bull is the one and only NUTTERS off Mossback Bulls Gone Wild 3. My best friend, Jesse Shipp, has been watching this bull for years. Mossback showed the footage, pics and gave info, all in trust, to former buddy MARK LANE. Mark told Doyle they didn't want the bull, I guess he was to small, yeah right. Then the next day they go in and kill him. Real cool. So I renamed nutters the DOUBLE CROSS BULL for the ##### job they gave my buddys.

Nice shirts too. Did you guys just come from the Sadie Hawkins Dance or what?
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-30-07 AT 06:30PM (MST)[p] "How freakin ridiculous. At least let their anltlers get done growing. Now we are hunting bulls in July? and clear through December. Nice."


Antlers are done growing bro. I saw a nice bull last weekend that was stripped. People have been hunting deer forever in velvet, what's the difference? This is the auction tag and season started the 28th. Other people knew about the bull, what would you have done?
 
HOW BOUT IT NUNYA???

YOU KNOW MORE THAN YOU'RE TELLING US???

WERE YOU THERE???

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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
RE: HOW BOUT IT NUNYA???

I hope the bulls were in the trees rubbing velvet this last weekend I did not see near as many but the cows were sure in sight thats the good thing.I agree they are done growing and the velvet is coming off soon.
 
WTF...............July 28 Bull kill, regardless of the score, that ain't right. Guess they had some speacial tag, but July 28th, just ain't right.

JL
 
HEY JL!!!

YOU RELATED TO BOB H???

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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
Damn...can't find my gas can! Oh here it is...

Naw, this thing will burn on its own.
 
Hey Cat-

No sure where you are going or what you mean, but no relation or relations with the aforemetnioned. July 28 elk kill'n, this is a joke, right................Gotta run B-Cat.

JL
 
RE: Double Cross Bull

LAST EDITED ON Jul-30-07 AT 09:35PM (MST)[p]Why didn't mossback kill that bull if it belonged to them? Sounds like it should be called Allen Shearer's bull!!!!!!!!!
 
Another fine example of bid tags.wtf every one should have to hunt the same time. But no, let the money boys hunt when they want.
 
RE: Double Cross Bull

>LAST EDITED ON Jul-30-07
>AT 09:35?PM (MST)
>
>Why didn't mossback kill that bull
>if it belonged to them?
>Sounds like it should be
>called Allen Shearer's bull!!!!!!!!!

Ms. Lane,
I know there are two sides to every story. Lets hear Mr. Lanes' side. What is not true about my previous post?
 
Here are photos off the video that Mark watched hours before he screwed Team MossBack.


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Let it Burn.
 
Grab the popcorn and a favorite beverage, this is going to be good!

RockyMtnOyster
 
It is really disappointing to see how low some people will go in order to kill "the next big bull". Betray friends, lie, cheat, just basically have no morals at all just so they can get their name out there and all of the fame and gratification that goes with the kill. I am so happy to see that peakfreak can tell it how it really happened. I am still just so suprised that someone can do what Mr. Shear and Mr. lane did and still have a smile on their faces knowing that they just betrayed someone that had put alot of their own time and effort into finding this bull and had the will to call and tell them about it and then let's lie and say were not going to kill the bull and wait till they leave and go back out and kill it? It's too bad that some people respect their friends and trust them to not do this type of thing and it sill happens. I guess it just goes to show the type of people that these two individuals are. Oh and by the way Ms. Lane it was Jesse Shipp's 9 year old son that found that bull and had been watching it for years and oh wait, he scouts and guides for MossBack so I guess you can be the judge of who found that bull and who happened to tell Mr. Lane about it cause it sure as hell wasn't Mr. Lane that found it. Some people have said that we need to hear Mr. Lane and Mr. Shear's side of the story but I highly doubt that that will even happen.
 
RE: Double Cross Bull

Ms. Lane,

Your only response is to hide your profile? You can't hide the truth. You can't handle the truth. The truth is Mr. Lane betrayed Doyle and Jesse plain and simple. He just had to have all the glory for himself. He's missing out on the real glory of being fair and honest.
 
Oh, I get it now. If you are involved with a competing hunting whorehouse you can call the big name guides crooks and cheats and liars but if your just a chump DIY'er you can't bad mouth them. Makes sense.

JB
 
What the hell Shear you can afford the state wide tag but can't afford to take care of team mossback for putting you on the bull?What's you're story Mark Lane?
 
I have a question; if Mossback found the bull, and figured no one else should kill this bull but a paying Mossback client, especially when a statewide tag holder could start WAY early not being guided by Mossback, WHY WOULD YOU TELL HIM?!?!?!?!

Sounds like loose lips sunk this 436" ship.
 
It's called making deals with people you trust. Happens every day in my neck of the woods. A mans only as good as his word. It's not about the money. IMO
 
HEY Drymountain!!!

WILL YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHERE THERE IS A 350"+ BULL???

I PROMISE I WON'T SHOOT IT!!!

OR AT LEAST NOT TILL YOU LEAVE!!!

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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
last I rememebr elk are public property, I have no ill toward Doyal, but he's had more then his share of GLORY...

I think what upsets me most about this post is, you guys & Doyal Moss think cause you find a public animal that it could be yours for a fee...


it's happened to me before get over it....
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07 AT 08:37AM (MST)[p]pf,

I understand what you are saying and I pride myself on my word also. However, it is obvious this game is cut throat. The thing that disturbs me is the fact that there is always controversy surrounding these animals and tags. I am not going to argue the right or wrong of it all because that has been hashed over. Just an outsiders perspective is all.

Edit: Where do they sell those Powder Baby Blue shirts? Those are awesome!;-)
 
All I can say is Mark Lane is creating quite a name for himself these days. Things like this and all the hate that comes with it usually puts things back into perspective for some but was'nt it just a year ago that he shot the town buck in Lund that all the kids were feeding ice cream to and then posted pictures of it making him out to be this great archer. Some guys will never know the true glory of hunting until they get out there and put something called hard work and effort into it! And as far as Doyle getting glory thats because he and his team actually get out of the truck once in a while!
 
PeakFreak said it's about sharing the glory. Yep, that is afterall what it's all about, the glory. Got nothing to do with the hunt any more. Bunch of glory hounds stroking their own egos and cutting the throats of everybody else. I couldn't care less about either of these guides or who gets the glory. It all disgusts me. It's what's wrong with hunting in the west today.
 
"Why didn't mossback kill that bull if it belonged to them?"


Since when does public wildlife "belong" to anybody? Didn't know you were allowed to claim a bull as yours and nobody else is allowed to shoot it.







It's Bush's fault!!!
 
The only time you claim a bull as yours is when you put your tag on him, until then he belongs to the state he lives in. You're missing the point.
 
No, I get the point, I just had to comment on a statement like that. I too would be pissed if someone did that to me. But it is a complicated situation and people have no respect or courtesy when it comes to them getting the spotlight.






It's Bush's fault!!!
 
No pf, you're missing the point. No one cares that there was a double cross in the hunt whore fraternity. You are all just a bunch of glory hounds looking for some one to mention your name in an article.

NO ONE CARES !!

JB
 
From my understanding he showed them the video and then Doyle and some of his guides went to look for it and Mark and his guys followed them in there.
 
Well obviously you care or you wouldn't be so concerned about what pf was saying or anyone else for that matter, and if you have been reading everything else that is posted SOMEONE CARES!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07 AT 09:46AM (MST)[p]There were other local guides involved in the hunt ,other guides who were also watching that same bull.Because mossback filmed it and put it on a video it belongs to them ,BULLshit,The other guides were a bit smarter and didnt go show off what they have seen while scouting .My best freind is a guide in lincoln county and seen that same bull last year within a couple hundred yards from where it was harvested .Some of you guys are completely rediculous thinking only mossbacks team knew about him.
 
>No pf, you're missing the point.
>No one cares that there
>was a double cross in
>the hunt whore fraternity. You
>are all just a bunch
>of glory hounds looking for
>some one to mention your
>name in an article.
>
>NO ONE CARES !!
>
>JB

I don't give a $hit if you care JB. yawn...yawn...yawn... I care thats all that matters to me.
 
well the Lane crew obviously did not know about the bull or they would have been sitting next to Team Mossback for the two weeks prior to the opening day of the hunt videoing him. Point is these guys took advantage of someone elses hard work. Last year the hunter bought this same tag and "did not have an opportunity" so the State gave him another tag for 2007.Used Lane to guide him then too. If Mossback had not tried to help them who knows maybe NV would have just gave him a permanent tag until they stumbled across one next to the road. And where did i miss the part that it belonged to Mossback?
 
>LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07
>AT 09:46?AM (MST)
>
>There were other local guides involved
>in the hunt ,other guides
>who were also watching that
>same bull.Because mossback filmed it
>and put it on a
>video it belongs to them
>,BULLshit,The other guides were a
>bit smarter and didnt go
>show off what they have
>seen while scouting .My best
>freind is a guide in
>lincoln county and seen that
>same bull last year within
>a couple hundred yards from
>where it was harvested .Some
>of you guys are completely
>rediculous thinking only mossbacks team
>knew about him.

Were the other local guides licensed? Obvioulsly they didn't keep their mouths shut because you are insinuating they told Mark about the bull. Show me the post where some one said Mossback was the only one that knew about the bull. They knew they were not the only ones to see this bull.
 
"Were the other local guides licensed?"

What does that have to do with anything?







It's Bush's fault!!!
 
Let me put it this way; The bull is an incredible animal. The Arizona velvet bull is also magnificent. Looks as though antler growth is good this year despite some western state droughts. That fares well for the lucky draw hunters. I cannot wait to get out there with my wife and buddy and see how we do. These are the people I am truly worried about. These two bulls are dead, I do not have a tag to hunt them, and I do not set my standards based on these bulls. We need to please ourselves and that is all that matters to me. We are looking for 350+.
 
I am still stuck on July 28 open season. What the heck is that?!?!?!?!
Is it open for everyone there?
 
I have a 380 class bull spotted in east central Idaho!! From this point forward it will be known as Highcountry32's bull as I now claim ownership and any of you go after it you are double crossin sob's. just kidding guys, hopefully the auction money goes to a good cause to improve some elk habitat that will help us all! If we don't get it by now we never will if you have a ton of $$$ you will get what you want. Why get so fired up? That's the way it is was and always will be, I'm not sayin it's right but just the way it is.
 
"I am still stuck on July 28 open season. What the heck is that?Is it open for everyone there?"

Usually on the raffle/auction tags the hunter has several months to hunt, in AZ they have 365 days. Not sure when NV starts, but it seems similar. It is NOT a regular hunting season that these bulls are being shot during.





It's Bush's fault!!!
 
I didnt say they told Mark about the bull ,I said they were involved in the hunt .And yes the other guide was licensed as a master guide .
 
Again, what difference does it make if he was licensed? Was he actually guiding at the time?




It's Bush's fault!!!
 
I can't get over the July thing either. Ridiculously early if you ask me. Wait till they polish off and get some color.

I have to laugh about all the talk of who owned this bull. These guys got to him first, big deal! I am sure several other people knew about the bull--no secret. You guys need to quit crying in your beer. All outfitters pay finders fee's and many people are out looking. I am sure this bull has been watched by many people. Kind of hard to give most outfitters credit for hard work when they pay $1,000 bounties to some 20 year old kid to go do the work.

I am becoming ashamed to be associated with hunting these days. What a joke.
 
I really don't want to get in on this one, but I think it's kindof funny how you guys are depicting it like Mossback was just trying to help Allen and Mark out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn?t Mossback offering the bull at a fairly large finder?s fee and the hunt would have ended up on the next Mossback video? Don?t get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend Mark in any way, shape, or form, and what he did here was extremely screwed up. Mark?s had some controversies in the past and Mossback should have probably thought it out a little better before showing him the video and trying to get another 400+ bull under their belt. I'm not trying to flame Mossback at all either, they are great guys and great elk hunters. What it really comes down to is that hunting monster bulls any more is pretty sad.
 
reading what was said, mossback isnt claiming the bull as only theres, there claiming that the finders fee should be theres, this has gone like wild fire not only on the forum but also in the state, what i understand that mossback emailed the photo to mark and was discussing a hunt and mark called his buddys and said lets find this bull from the back ground of the photos, word also says that he and the nevada outlaw ran there paraplane in the area just before the hunt looking for the bull, mark has always been a straight up guy i thought,but when you start hanging out with trash you start smelling like it. And for other guides knowing of this bull im sure they did, but for these guys i dont think they had a clue of this bull, it all comes down to money anymore, and for these guys that buy these tags most of the time there not hunters there assassins they show up the day before, kill the animal, pay the big bucks, and brag about it, a jackrabbit hunt would have been harder hunt than this hunt. i just live over the hill i also want to hear about the pet deer killed down home. lw
 
So let me see if I can summarize this deal if for nothing else my own understanding:

1. High dollar hunter with a guaranteed tag good until he finds a bull worthy of his ?standards?. Completely flexible season starting at oh?.let's see...JULY!
2. Blue shirted bounty hunters camped on the bull using any means possible to make their high dollar client happy.
3. A bunch of hunters sucked into the game completely forgetting why we all hunt (or should hunt) in the first place.

What am I missing- oh yea- the high fence around the State of Nevada and we should be well on our way to making our state agencies a well oiled corporation providing maximum return on equity. Before I throw up- I am going to go give my $45.00 OTC Utah Elk tag a big ol? kiss and get ready for an 8 mile scouting trip tonight. There- now I feel better.
 
Just more proof that "shooting animals" is becoming a sport for the rich man. This just proves a loop hole exists in our society. Murderers, drunk drivers, swindlers and crooks, etc. As long as you have deep pockets, you dont need any morals. Society will just bat an eye at you as long as you are willing to pay out. With this example, its not just showing right from wrong, its more than that.
It all boils down to fame and money. IMO that is not hunting. I think it is disturbing for someone to claim they are a hunter when you have twenty different sets of eyes in the woods and a cell phone waiting for directions where to show up and pull the trigger. You are not a "hunter" anymore, you are nothing more than a dollar sign. Cool you shot a huge animal, now go pat yourself on the back for doing such a great job.
 
Looks like some of the Mossback bush beaters drove the lion in front of the other Englishman's elephants!

"Pish posh! What a bloody scandal chaps! Lets all drink some tea and discuss how we can capitalize our resources to best serve the queen!"

Greed and money and fame and hunting. Just like it was in the late 1800's. A sport only for the rich man.

Yep - it makes me sick.

Let it burn.

UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
It is kind of sad to see a big bull shot in july. There are alot of guys who buy premium tags at auction they don't get to start in July. some pay big money! But i guess if it say's Governers tag, Ur above everthing. special things come to special people. Oh yea by the way i have a non typical spike buck that has 12 inch cheaters commin off both sides. I will take a good finders fee for that baby, it will score good
 
This is the craziest thing I have ever heard. What the heck is happening to hunting in these places. It is starting to sound like a joke.
These guys can have their high-dollar tag, I will take my MT general tag and my 280 inch bull and be happy and proud. At least I know my bull will not have been "sat on" for weeks, or I will not have been led to it by my ear either.

Is this what hunting/hunters are measured by now? I guess it sells videos and magazines.
 
The amount of holier than thou, i heard that he said that she said that they did this, bull$hit on this thread is amazing. Pretty sure sure that all the people on here talking trash weren't at that meeting with Doyle and whoever else. Some of you are worse than a sewing circle.
 
Help me out here.

Who's fault is it?

The John?
The Pimp?
The Prostitute? (works for the pimp)
The Whore? ( stands on a strett corner with good observation skills hoping to capitalize on the organization)

Or the agency who fails to regulate such activities and turns a blind eye to all that is bad about money tags, because: the dirty money does so much good?

Oh wait, this was an elk hunt you all are discussing, I hope it stops soon as progress sure has redefined hunting.

Travis Sparks

For those of you who restrict your personal information, why don't for once you stand up and sign your name to something you believe so strongly in. To an average guy like me you are a joke and willing to sell your soul. Where does that make you fit?
 
Travis,

I am one of the "prostitutes" I suppose. Although I have NEVER been involved in anything like this hunt, I simply take my clients out and kill big sumbeech bulls. Anyhow, I'll be your Huckleberry, my name is Bart Hansen, now what? Where do I sign?

PRO
Bart Hansen
 
Who's fault is it? It the people who support the magazines and production companies that want to see these bulls and read the stories about how they were killed. Do you think all the people living back east realize how these bulls are killed? People pay to read the stories and watch the videos. And the bigger the bull, the better the story and the more publicity the shooter will get. Want it to stop? Stop supporting these publications. Also, maybe P&Y and B&C should not allow these animals into the books. But then again, what "laws" were broken to get these bulls? None. When the spotlight dims on these guys, it will change. But that will probably never happen.

As far as being regulated, what needs to be regulated? The only perks the tag holder has is that he can hunt an extended season, and wherever he wants to in the state. The only regulation needs to come from the guys who promote this stuff. And that can only be self regulation. If you were legally making money providing a service that benefitted a few, and didn't make a lot of people happy, what would you say if someone asked you to stop?

As western elk hunters we are in a minority. I'd be willing to bet that there are way more hunters who could care less about this and similar situations than do. The more fame people get from doing this, the more it will happen. And that fame comes from media.




It's Bush's fault!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07 AT 03:19PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07 AT 03:18?PM (MST)

Lets see.... Doyle and his crew got some of their own medicine and they don't like it??? imagine that. Give me a break and don't tell me they are not guilty of doing the same thing numerous times. I would have to say they are top of the heap in this kind of happenings..
 
>LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07
>AT 03:19?PM (MST)
>
>LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-07
>AT 03:18?PM (MST)
>
>Lets see.... Doyle and his crew
>got some of their own
>medicine and they don't like
>it??? imagine that. Give me
>a break and don't tell
>me they are not guilty
>of doing the same thing
>numerous times. I would have
>to say they are top
>of the heap in this
>kind of happenings..

Is that hersay, or first hand knowledge? If you have any 'proof' of Mossback doing this to another outfitter, please share. In the meantime I am calling BULL$&^%!

PRO
 
I'd still like to know what the licensing mentioned above has to do with anything?










It's Bush's fault!!!
 
Doyle has never done anything like this so don't you dare run your mouth about that. More then half of you have never met him so what right do you have to bad mouth him and criticize him. He would bend over backwards to help anyone. How in the hell do you think that Mark found out about this bull???? Doyle is watching out for the best interests of a 9 year old boy who found this bull and is heartbroken about what happened. Yes there was a finder's fee and it was going to go to that 9 year old boy so maybe doyle isn't the bad guy that everyone makes him out to be. I, his daughter deffinatly don't think so.
 
Dude it's not about being in the outdoors and hunting with friends and family. it's a big money making bussiness for these 2 outfitters. beside what dumb A$$ tells his competetors his bussiness plans. He screwed up and it cost him his next pay check, and everbody is comin to his defense, lets have a pitty party for the boyz. maybe we can all stike candles to night.
 
This is beyond a joke. I've noticed a lot of the people posting about the "facts" are fairly new to this site.








It's Bush's fault!!!
 
>This is beyond a joke. I've
>noticed a lot of the
>people posting about the "facts"
>are fairly new to this
>site.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>It's Bush's fault!!!

Could be because they are in the know of what really happened and are attempting to debunk alot of the BS? Does one need a certain number of posts to hold water on what the facts are? WTF?

I am not sure what happened, but I do see people dogpiling on an Outfitter who has busted his hump to get where he is, w/o breaking the law and by working WITH fellow guides/outfitters/hunters, not by stabbing them in the back. Every year people make unfounded claims saying how he is doing this or that, with NO proof other than a he said/she said. That is what I find sad about the state of hunting, where when some one succeeds, others feel the need to try and discredit what they have done. Get over it!

PRO
 
this post is like who spotted the bull first and who has the right to shoot him or who has the right to post
 
>this post is like who spotted
>the bull first and who
>has the right to shoot
>him or who has the
>right to post

Ho, you like alot of others on here are missing the point. The outfitter was trusted by a fellow outfitter. When one stabs another in the back, should the one just 'take it'? Ironically, I haven't heard any complaints from the 'man' himself. His daughter, a class act I may add, has come on here to defend his integrity, and then she is attacked for doing so. That is what I find disgusting, more than 'bounty hunting'. Attacking fellow hunters makes no sense whatsoever. You want to know what hurts hunting? It is hunters attacking how others hunt, more than how hunters hunt! You dipwads attacking another hunter are doing the anti-hunters dirty work for them, way to go!

PRO
 
I'm going to do it the ole fashioned way. I am going to take my 16D NM tag and some sharp sticks and go try to poke one of those big screamers when they are hard antlered and good to go. I'm going to take my old man with me for some company, and leave all the guides, finders fees and politics behind. I hope I have a shot at it. 5 days in a state that is several hundred if not thousand miles away, I hope it can be done. I think I'll leave the powder blue shirts at home. I don't have the funds for all thos e paraplanes and guide services. If anyone wants to show me a video of a monster bull and hand me the GPS coordinates, I would love it. I sure wish I had one of those tags that give you 365 days to kill a monster, and if you don't succeed, they give you another for the heck of it. ; )

Good job brook for standing up for your Dad. I don't know him, but sure enjoy his pics. This other guy seems like a Jackass, but don't know him either. If your Dad talked to him in good faith, then shame on the blue shirted fellow.
 
Prout, you are the biggest hypocrite the earth has ever seen. On the UDWR website you were always slamming someone if they had only been a member for a few days or months. Now you are defending Brooklyn, who only has a few posts, just because she has the same opinion as you, suprise, surprise. Your MO hasn't changed and never will. I have read your posts on this site as well as others and you insult and attack other hunters more than anyone else on the forum. While standing on your soapbox you call other hunters on this site "dipwads" (classy) and accomplish what you accuse others of doing.

FYI, I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT DOYLE OR HIS ORGANIZATION, I KNOW WHERE THAT WILL END UP.

You can start insulting me now prout, I know how this works when someone disagrees with you.
 
Pro

You can tell a story and 9 times out of 10 people will form there own story and there own opinion. the way i take it. is one outfitter told another outfitter about the bull. So the other outfitter went and shot the bull. Well i would think that if you trust someone that much and they turn around and stab you in the back, it still your fault. i have had people do the same to me, not with hunting but with other bussiness deals, and been screwed. So what! If people choose to live that way, thats there choice. and i choose to do bussiness with them and they screw me, it's my fault, i made that choice. I am not saying at all what the other outfitter did was right by shooting the bull but he did it and it is a good bull. there are all of poeple out ther that don't like Doyle and the boyz, but they did choose to tell mark about it.
 
Wanna fix all this and make it "fair"? Lets quit letting auction tags hunt months before everybody else. Make them hunt with everyone else. Yeah, hopefully the money goes to a good cause, but what's the price on whoring out to the high bidder? Basically, we're telling people that if you're a regular Joe who applied for 15 years and drew a tag, you have to wait 'til the regular season to hunt. However, if you're a millionaire, you can hunt whenever you want. Maybe we should let them hunt at night too. Maybe we should let them hunt out of their paraplanes. They're paying a lot of money, so they deserve it right?

Making hunting a sport of millionaires will kill hunting long before anit-hunters ever do.
 
This has got to be one of the most stupid posts I have ever read, but kind of funny at the same time. If Mr. Moss has a problem with these other guys, let them handle it. LMAO. I cannot understand why all of the little wannabies are bashing this other outfitter when it is really not any of their business. Stop and think about it. What a joke. Some other outfitter killed a big 430 inch bull. Get over it. Anybody can kill a 400 inch bull if you have a little money to throw around for finders fees.
 

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