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Bigway2

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I drew a Wy unit 60 type 9 tag. I'll be flying into Jackson, is there any places there that I can get pepper spray? Can I bring it on the plane if I get it here (NJ)? What size canister should I get? If I get it here I can only legally have less than 3/4 of an ounce in my possesion. Is that enough? I will have a guide with a firearm just in case. But I would feel alot better if I had something on me to protect myself.
 
I don't think you can carry on any amount, but if you pack it you should be alright. Check out the TSA website.
 
Bigway,
If you are really concerned about the bears and you want to have your own protection get with your outfitter and have it sent directly to him and he can have it when he picks you up. That way you do not have to mess with the airlines.
 
Yeah, shipping it to the outfitter would be best...

In addition, here's a tip I learned long ago:

Black bear scat looks like berries and twigs and smells like poo...

Griz scat looks like Mossy Oak (TM) and smells like pepper spray...
 
I'll be wearing Realtree AP HD, so I guess I'm safe from grizzlies! The only other option I got for protection is to strap my 3 1/2 in. 12 guage auto turkey gun to my back, take out the plug and stuff as many slugs and buckshot it will hold. YEE HA!!
 
If you shoot one you better have teeth marks and scratches on you..they will examine every orifice on you body during the investigation...
 
I'll wait until my leg is in his mouth, then I'll put the shotgun barrel in his ear hole and let'r rip. Seriously, what do you guys use for protection in bear country? If pepper spray is useless, tell me. I'll use something else.
 
Just make sure you can outrun the guide and don't worry about it.
 
I went on a guided hunt outside of Cody and the outfitter provided us with pepper spray. The can was about 8 inches long by 2 inches in diameter and probably held 8 to 10 ounces so I don't think 3/4 of an ounce would do much good.

We had a "bear class" at the outfitters house before we left for camp. All the hunters were sitting around the kitchen table and the talk was going pretty good until one of the guys asked how far would it spray. When we were told about the length of the kitchen table I thought I would crack up, like I was going to let a bear get that close before I started shooting.

People have been successful with bear spray so it's better than nothing. The outfitter put a lot of effort to keep the bears out of camp. No food in your tent, all of the camp food stored on elevated platforms, all elk meat in a tree 100 yards from camp,no elk feet or hides left in camp, camp dog to warn you.

If you aren't comfortable with this, take the shotgun.
 
In some places/units you are required to have pepper spray, Teton National Park comes to mind and I think there are others. I'm sure you can get it in Jackson Hole or wherever you are headed and get the 8-10oz can of it. they also make a practise can so you can get a idea of how it works.. just watch the wind, if the stuff screws up a bear imagine what it will do to you.

I'm hunting out of Flagg Ranch, 2 miles south of the entrance of Yellowstone this fall...I have 2 cans and plan on having a partner with a shotgun handy while I'm doing the quartering and boning out. Too many dinner bell bears looking to fatten up before hibernation.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-07-07 AT 11:35PM (MST)[p]Bigway, you're more likely to have a problem with the horses, than you are with a bear on a guided hunt. If you feel the need to carry protection beyond pepper spray and you're on a rifle hunt, you probably shouldn't be going in the first place. The most important thing to carry in bear country is common sense, a watchful eye and keeping track of your partner. You are very UNLIKELY to have a bear problem on a guided hunt, even though there may be bears around you.

I've done a lot of hunting in grizzly country and have never had a problem at all. I've shot two mountain grizzlies and a kodiak bear on hunts for them, and wouldn't dream of carrying a shotgun on an elk hunt. That's what your rifle is for if you get in a jam. A shotgun, even loaded with the best slugs, isn't nearly as effective as guys who've never shot a grizzly would believe. If you're worried about a firearm to stop a bear, shoot a .338 or bigger rifle and then you'll have something up to the task.

There was only one time where I was ever really scared about grizzlies, and that was fishing on the west side of Cook Inlet in Alaska. We were fly fishing for rainbows and silvers, and my guide didn't carry a gun at all, despite us fishing some tight streams with less than 30 yards visibility. He had a labrador retreiver with him, and figured his best defense was keen observation of his surroundings and his dog's sense of hearing and smell. He told me that carrying a pistol was just giving him an excuse to have a problem. We never did see any bears, though we saw a couple salmon carcasses that were still flopping in the grass after bears had caught them. The fishing was awesome!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-07-07 AT 11:56PM (MST)[p]Bigway, after I posted I saw that you've drawn a type 9 tag, and archery tag. I don't know that my thinking changes at all, though I did want to acknowlege that you'll be hunting without a gun. Pepper spray and common sense will go a very long way. Have a great bowhunt!

Also, I went back and read that story that Kilowatt posted. Not to criticize at all, but if you think about it, these guys did a number of things that contributed to their problem. They couldn't have been in a more open area with that moose, but instead of gutting it, they might have had less scent for the bear to find if they'd butchered it gutless, and if one of them had stood watch while the other worked, they'd have likely seen the bear sooner. Of course, if they'd have had a rifle with them, that would have been better also. They got very lucky under the circumstances.
 
If you're worried about getting pepper spray in Jackson, don't be. You're flying from NJ into grizzly country. It'll be on every corner and in about every gas station. They make a killing off tourists with that stuff.
 
I have been to Alaska 26 times and have been within rock throwing distance to brown bears many times. I took a little airhorn on one trip to the Brooks river and put it in my wader pocket. I had a sow with cubs coming across the river and bent down to unhook a salmon and the darn thing went off and just hissed and about froze my privates off so I threw it away. Just hire a one legged guide and you will be fine.
 
>If you're worried about getting pepper
>spray in Jackson, don't be.
> You're flying from NJ
>into grizzly country. It'll
>be on every corner and
>in about every gas station.
> They make a killing
>off tourists with that stuff.
>
I was thinking the same thing. last time i went fishing in montana, they had bear spray for sale everywhere.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-07 AT 09:06PM (MST)[p]I guided in the Bob Marshall Wilderness that is plum full of lions, wolves,... AND BEARS.

Didn't carry a gun... carried only UDAP Bear Spray.

Watched a young black bear take 2 center hit shots with a 30-06 to go fully down just a few weeks ago... now imagine an adrenalized griz.

Many guys killed by bears with their guns never being fired.

Do your research and you will find the effectiveness of good Pepper spray like UDAP...

You find find it a 99% of all sporting good stores.

Most bear attacks happen at extremely close range and the victum has zero time to react.

You accidentally spoke a bear with cubs and she is on you before you can blink... the only thing between you and possible death might just be that bear spray that you can easily reach. (make sure its not in your backpack)
 
Good gawdfrey, hit the bear with your purse you panzzy. You have better odds of getting robbed raped and killed by some pezza chit in NJ than getting ate by a bear. Get some balls and go hunting.
 
You should just stay in NJ and let me take your spot on your hunt!:)
Seriously, leave shot gun at home, quit winning about bears, talk to your outfitter, I guarantee he'll have spray for you. Trust your guide. My money says you never even see a griz on your hunt let alone need to deal with one. Been hunting in griz country for 12 years and have had no issues. One night I did have one come into camp and nuzzle me thru my tent twice. I stayed still and he just left. We keep a spotless camp.
 
i have the world's best made and most effictive pepper spray. most people don't kow it, but it is most effictive when its shot from the barrell of a 454 or a 600 nitro. lol!!!! bears don't move after that!




beat this
 
Whatever you decide on the bear spray, my advise is to make sure that you don't let the fear of a bear attack ruin your hunt!

Bear attacks are VERY rare, and although bears definately deserve respect, they are not hiding behind trees waiting for the next unsuspecting hunter to come along. You are probably much more likely to suffer injury or death by falling, cutting yourself with a knife, or any number of other things that can happen while hunting. Be careful, use your noggin, and you will have a great trip.
 

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