160 class buck pic needed
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-04 AT 08:41AM (MST)[p]I have some. Do you need the exact score?? Does it have to be on the hoof, or can it be a kill shot w/ hunter? I'll see what I can do for ya, I have some options....shoot mne an e-mail.... [email protected]
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boneaddict
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157"
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boneaddict
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167" If I remember right
BigPig, I don't think that buck is any wider than about 21" or so. I'm definitely no expert but I usually just figure the ears to be around 22" or so on a younger buck and maybe 24" on an older, more mature buck. It usually holds true but there are always exceptions. Good luck with your hunts this year.
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boneaddict
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side view
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rear view. I don't have an exact score on these fellows, but I felt they were 160 class deer.
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look in my post "idaho scouting pics" there is one there
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Here is one my grandfather killed in MT in the 1960's. The skull was broke when I found it, but I think it was about 27 inches wide. I scored it, but am not sure about how to score the mass, with no browtines. The way I scored it it nets about 165, but to me it looks bigger than the other 160 class bucks posted.
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I think you scored it pretty close. The short tine length and lack of brow tines puts it in that 160 class versus the 170. I think you'd be sick to not dump him though unless you had an LE permit.
With no eye guards you loose a mass measurment on each side which would account for 8+ inches on your grandpa's buck. If you scored the rack right and it is around 165" then the buck would have probably scored closer to 180" if he would have had eye guards. You see when the eye guards are missing you not only loose the mass measurements but you also loose the length of the g1's had they been there. Lets say your Granpa's buck had 2 1/2 inch eye guards on each side. That's 5 more inches. Then lets say the buck has 4 1/2 inches of mass on each side. That's another 9 inches. Add 14 inches to a 165 class buck and it makes a big difference in the score.
Here are the measurments you should have after scoring your Grandpa's buck.
Right Side Left Side
g1 n/a g1 n/a
g2 g2
g3 g3
g4 g4
h1 n/a h1 n/a
h2 h2
h3 h3
h4 h4
main beam main beam
Then add the widest point of the inside spread betweend the main beams or the length of the longest main beam if the inside spread is bigger than both main beams. This would be the bucks gross score.
I hope this helps.
NvrEnuf
Here are the measurments you should have after scoring your Grandpa's buck.
Right Side Left Side
g1 n/a g1 n/a
g2 g2
g3 g3
g4 g4
h1 n/a h1 n/a
h2 h2
h3 h3
h4 h4
main beam main beam
Then add the widest point of the inside spread betweend the main beams or the length of the longest main beam if the inside spread is bigger than both main beams. This would be the bucks gross score.
I hope this helps.
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-04 AT 04:42PM (MST)[p]Not to risk sounding like an expert or anything, but I have to disagree with a little of your information NvrEnuf. You actually get some credit for that circum. measurement, not a complete loss. As quoted from the Boone Manual itself:
Circumferences are taken at the narrowest place as detailed in Figure C for each measurement. If the brow point is missing, take H-1 and H-2 at the smallest place between the burr and the G-2 point.
You don't get near what you would if there was a browtine, but you do get some.
Circumferences are taken at the narrowest place as detailed in Figure C for each measurement. If the brow point is missing, take H-1 and H-2 at the smallest place between the burr and the G-2 point.
You don't get near what you would if there was a browtine, but you do get some.
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Hey Addict, I thought you were stoned. But I checked B&C's page and looks like they've changed a few things.
Didn't you always loose the H1 if there were no G1's? Or am I the one that needs to put the crack pipe down???
Looks like I have to re-score my sheds now!!!
Didn't you always loose the H1 if there were no G1's? Or am I the one that needs to put the crack pipe down???
Looks like I have to re-score my sheds now!!!
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I mostly hunt with my bow and I also am no expert but in the p&y score sheet you do get an h1 measurement for missing g1's. Here is an insert about the circumference measurements from a mule deer P&Y score sheet:
H1-2-3-4. Circumferences. Circumferences are taken at the smallest place between corresponding normal points. If first point is missing, take H-1 and H-2 at smallest place between burr and second point. If third point is missing, take H-3 halfway between the base and tip of the second point. If the fourth point is missing, take H-4 halfway between the center of the baseline for the second point and tip of main beam.
I hope this answers your questions.
Later,
IB
H1-2-3-4. Circumferences. Circumferences are taken at the smallest place between corresponding normal points. If first point is missing, take H-1 and H-2 at smallest place between burr and second point. If third point is missing, take H-3 halfway between the base and tip of the second point. If the fourth point is missing, take H-4 halfway between the center of the baseline for the second point and tip of main beam.
I hope this answers your questions.
Later,
IB
So if I am understanding this correctly your H1 and H2 measurments would both be the same number if the G1 is missing. Is that right? I appreciate the information. I've never really looked at the B&C rules. I've always just going by what I was told which could very well be a bunch of BS.
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Here's a buck that would probably score in the 140's, but due to heavy mass and long eyeguards, it scored 163 net.
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AMEN!
