message for 30INCHBUCKS and NVSPORTSMAN

luckynevadahunter · Sep 12, 2004

I WAS TOLD BY A FRIEND TO CHECK OUT THIS WEBSITE BECAUSE YOU TWO GUYS WERE POSTING INFO ABOUT A BUCK I KILLED ON A FORUM CALLED JURRASIC NEVADA BUCK BACK ON AUGUST 20TH. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE ALL OF YOUR SPITEFULL COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM. YOU DONT KNOW ONE THING ABOUT ME OR THE HUNT I WAS ON, YET YOU IMMEDIALTELY ASSUME AND THEN PUT IN WRITING WHAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. YOU STATED THAT I WAS A NON-RESIDENT HUNTER WHO HAD PROBABLY NEVER EVER SEEN A BUCK BEFORE WHO HIRED A NON-RESIDENT GUIDE WHO HAD TRAIL CAMERAS ON EVERY WATER AND FLEW A CHUTE PLANE FOR DAYS BEFORE THE HUNT.

THE ONLY TRUE STATEMENT IS THAT I WAS A NON-RESIDENT HUNTER. I DIDN'T HIRE A GUIDE, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HIRING ONE. I DIDN'T USE ANY TRAIL CAMERAS ONLY BECAUSE I'M TO CHEAP TO BUY ONE AND THE SPRING HE WAS USING HAD TOO MANY CATTLE USING IT. I DIDN'T FLY A CHUTE PLANE TO LOCATE THE BUCK BECAUSE I AM AFRAID OF FLYING COMMERCIALLY, LET ALONE IN ONE OF THOSE SMALL PLANES. I GLASSED UP THE BUCK AFTER LOOKING IN THE AREA FOR 26 DAYS AFTER GETTING A TIP FROM A CLOSE FRIEND THE YEAR PRIOR TO ME DRAWING THE TAG(WHICH TOOK ME FIVE YEARS) AND STALKED HIM WITH THE HELP OF A CLOSE FRIEND WHO FLEW OUT FROM KENTUCKY TO HELP ON TH HUNT. I SHOT THOUSANDS OF ARROWS TO GET READY FOR THIS HUNT AND THEN MADE A LUCKY SHOT TO HARVEST THE BUCK OF MY DREAMS, SO WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE HAPPY FOR ME LIKE I WOULD BE FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WHO HAD THE SAME GOOD FORTUNE THAT I HAD??? AS FAR AS THE BUCKS SCORE, I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED THIS BUCK TO BE THE NEW WORLD RECORD. HE WAS SCORED BY A LOCAL TAXIDERMIST, BUT HE STILL NEEDS TO BE SCORED BY AN OFFICIAL SCORER IN 3 WEEKS AFTER THE DRYING PERIOD. TO THOSE OF YOU WHO DID WRITE NICE CONGRATULATORY COMMENTS THANKS. GREG KROGH AZ

cmiddleton · Sep 12, 2004

congatulations, i know how sarcastic people are in here and i'm sorry about that but there are some great folks too.
i use to post more here but got tired of the school teachers and cut downs some of us like to help hunters and love seeing big bucks. i dont know why people are the way they are jumping to the wrong conclution and thinking they know it all.
as for me i hope it makes the record and cant wait to see the pictures and story.
sounds like a great buck for sure and now you have more time to find a bull elk. good hunting

kingfish · Sep 12, 2004

I found the post for you!!! I do believe those fellas owe you an apology.

Skunkterd · Sep 12, 2004

This site is 10 times better then any soap opera

manny15 · Sep 12, 2004

Nevada muley could be among archery's best

Early-season typical mule deer has a green net score of 206 inches

By Lynn Burkhead
ESPNOutdoors.com associate editor ? Aug. 18, 2004

Arizona bowhunter Greg Krogh claims his typical Nevada mule deer buck sports a green gross score of 211 1/8 inches and a green net score of 206 0/8 inches.

For archers who love to chase hat-racked mule deer around the West, this is a story that surely will make you envious.

Arizona bowhunter Greg Krogh unleashed an arrow Aug. 8 at a huge typical mule deer while hunting in central Nevada. And while many scoring hurdles remain, the Krogh buck appears headed for bowhunting's mule-deer throne in the Pope & Young Club record book.

Described as a velvet-antlered basic 4X4 typical mule deer with eye-guards,
the deer recently was green-scored. Aside from the typical frame, it sports one abnormal point that measures less than 1 4/8 inches in length.

That all results in a huge typical mule deer buck with a green gross score of 211 1/8 inches and a green net score of 206 0/8 inches, according to Krogh.

While Krogh admits he loves mule deer bucks sporting fuzzy antlers, he is unsure of which of the Pope & Young Club's two typical mule deer categories he will enter the deer.

Either way, the buck appears to have the potential to claim the top spot in the P&Y record book.

If Krogh strips the velvet off the buck's antlers, the hard-horned deer could threaten to unseat the current P&Y world record mule deer buck, a 203 1/8 inch buck killed by Bill Barcus a quarter-century ago.

? If it had been anyone else other than Randy Ulmer describing this buck to me, I wouldn't have spent 29 days chasing this buck without seeing him. ?
? Arizona bowhunter Greg Krogh

The Barcus buck, a massive 7X7 hard-horned typical, was arrowed in Colorado's White River National Forest in 1979.

Should Krogh elect to keep the velvet, the deer has the potential to unseat the top fuzzy-horned mule deer, a 202 6/8 inch 5X5 arrowed by Joe W. Schmidt near Saskatchewan's Goose Lake in 2001.

Krogh went to great lengths to make it understood he isn't claiming his buck to be a new world record, only that the buck appears to be in that neighborhood.

He still must endure the completion of the mandatory 60-day drying period and the obtaining of an official entry score after drying, as well as possible future panel scoring efforts.

He also was careful to note he wouldn't have even known that the massive mule deer even existed had it not been for his good pal, Arizona bowhunter Randy Ulmer.

"This buck was originally found by Randy Ulmer while he was elk hunting with me in August 2003 in central Nevada," said Krogh, owner of Arizona's Mogollon Rim Outfitters.

If readers recognize Randy Ulmer's name, he annually contends for archery medal honors in the ESPN Great Outdoor Games. Prior to this summer's bronze-medal effort, Ulmer laid claim to two silver medals.

Ulmer also is one of bowhunting's top archers, especially when it comes to tagging big bull elk and mule deer bucks. On the elk hunt described by Krogh above, Ulmer shot a massive Nevada non-typical bull that scored 409 7/8 inches, the largest such archery bull ever harvested in the state.

Krogh had been visualizing the muley buck for a year since it was first described to him.

But it was the monster muley that Ulmer saw during that particular elk hunt that kept Krogh's mind spinning for the past 12 months.

"Between the time that Randy saw the deer in August 2003 and the time that I killed him, I spent a total of 29 days looking for him," Krogh said.

"If it had been anyone else other than Randy Ulmer describing this buck to me, I wouldn't have spent 29 days chasing this buck without seeing him."

As this year's archery mule deer season approached, Krogh finally laid his own two eyes on the massive buck.

"I finally found him three days before I killed him," he said. "Upon seeing him for the first time, I realized why Randy was so excited that night a year ago."

Krogh also was quick to express thanks to his pal Doug Bodhaine of Kentucky, who traveled to Nevada to help Krogh during his hunt.

Bodhaine sat and glassed while Krogh stalked the gagger-size buck, providing hand signals when necessary to let the stalking archer know what the mule deer was doing.

The classic Western mule deer spot-and-stalk bowhunt ended when Krogh finally got archery close for a mid-morning shot at the buck.

"I think he was just as excited as I was even though he was looking at the buck through binoculars," Krogh said.

And deservedly so. As the record books prove, mule deer bucks of this world-class magnitude are rare, even in the monster-muley-rich state of Nevada.

manny15 · Sep 12, 2004

definatly a feat when taken with a bow dude, congrates,,,yes I'm jelous...LOL..

Chef · Sep 12, 2004

LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-04 AT 04:56PM (MST)[p]Nice to meet you and Congrats on the hunt!
"Tell em how you "REALLY" feel!"

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"

Bura Nut · Sep 12, 2004

congratulations to you and the fine animal you shot. The 30inch person whomever they are is just a bitter blowhard. He slams everyone and everything.....thanks for coming on here and showing 30cm how a real sportsman should act............... Allen Taylor......

littlefoot · Sep 12, 2004

lnh...congratulations to both you and your friend 'doug'...i'm sure this is a well deserved trophy that will be in both your minds for all times. thank you for the story, and good luck on 'the scoring', though i'm sure the 'hunt' will always score higher...thanks again for sharing with us....

ridgerunner · Sep 12, 2004

Congrats on a well deserved trophy, don't worry about what some jealus person is saying.

kilowatt · Sep 12, 2004

Greg,
Congrats to you and those that were with you on that awesome BUCK hunt. As to the two who had posted their crap, only one of them and that being NVSportmans made an apoligy to you. Check out the post below here on this Forum and look for response # 52 by NVSportsman.

Brian

huntsonora · Sep 12, 2004

Greg,

Glad you posted what you did. Congratulations on an unreal buck. As for 30inchbucks and his kind, I would not expect any kind of response. These guys dont have the nads to come out and apologize to anybody, in their mind they feel that they are right and everybody else is wrong. They dont even have enough sack to let people know who they are, they will bash people to no end and not sign their name to their statements.

Drummond

Gator · Sep 12, 2004

I hunted 2 week hard and I was beat, my hat is off to ya for hunting 26 days and still able to hunt, your mental game is above board. You got one heck of a great deer.Sorry about any asses you will run in to on this forum, It's still the best one out there. Good Luck I hope you get the record.

bigbull1 · Sep 13, 2004

Big Congrats! Great buck, great commitment and a great story.

fairchase · Sep 13, 2004

You tell um! luckynevadahunter, good on ya.

Greg

NVBighorn · Sep 13, 2004

Awesome buck. Great job.

tshuntin · Sep 13, 2004

CONGRATS!!! I HAVE HEARD ENOUGH TALK, I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PIC OF THIS BIG OLD DUDE!!!!! TS

MulieMarauder · Sep 13, 2004

Terrific work Greg,

You EARNED every bit of the positive recognition you're getting and NONE of the negative.

I've been lurking on this site for about 9 months; ever since I got the archery bug and decided to go after a mule deer. I distinctly remember reading the thread where you were being trashed by the jealous few and I remember thinking how I hope I'll be in line for some of the same type of grief you got.

Yep, that's right, I've never killed any kind of deer with a bow and just a few with a rifle, I am a pilot though, and when I get where I'm going (NW Kansas), if I can rent a little plane, I probably WILL fly over the area I'll be hunting just to get the lay of the land and, if I do spot a deer or two, so much the better, although I don't see how it would help that much if I did, since I don't plan on jumping out of the plane and parachute in on 'em.

I don't have an official "guide" either but have managed to line up a local hunter who's a friend of a friend and he may go out with me on one of the first days' hunts to help keep me from making any really stupid mistakes. I'll only be there for a week and will need to make every minute count. That's right, I'll be a NON-RESIDENT on top of everything else. Already got the tag in my hot little hand.

And, last but not least, I doubt if I've shot "thousands" of arrows since the bug bit, maybe a few, but I can hit a 6" target at 50 yards, so I guess that will just have to do.

Well Greg, I hope you do get the new record but, as you can well imagine, I hope to break it in just a few months and get a real dog cussin' of my very own.

Say, where can I get one of those trail cameras?

Best of luck to you and all the mule deer hunters this season.

deadI · Sep 13, 2004

Congradulations Greg. Great buck, and way to tell em. Funny how he hasn't had the whavos to come on this post. Again Congrats on a great deer. Would love to see some pics.

Jared
aka: DeadI

luckynevadahunter · Sep 13, 2004

"RE: message for 30INCHBUCKS and NVSPORTSMAN"

tshuntin, muliemarauder and deadi. the pics were posted by someone under the topic "Jurassic mule deer killed" under post #61. it is on the muley page about ten topics below this posting to"30 inchbuck and NVsportsman". thanks for the positive comments. greg

supersider34 · Sep 13, 2004

RE: "RE: message for 30INCHBUCKS and NVSPORTSMAN"

Great job Greg. Big kudos to you. We had the same problem here where I live over some bucks that where shot here. State record on archery and a friends buck. Heard state record was shot while coyote hunting with a rifle and my friends where ran with a snowmobile. I have 3 for 3 so far and all my pics are at night so have heard threw friends that I spot light because my pics are at night. It seems there are alot of people out there dont like being put up. If it isn't there buck then they always have neg stuff to say.
But again great job. And a very nice buck. Love the horns.

littlebuck · Sep 13, 2004

RE: "RE: message for 30INCHBUCKS and NVSPORTSMAN"

That is a great story and a great buck. My Mother told me when I was a kid ? if you don't have anything good to say keep your mouth shut? We should all think about that prior to posting.

cpsandman · Sep 13, 2004

RE: "RE: message for 30INCHBUCKS and NVSPORTSMAN"

Nothing but congratulations from this hunter. Way to go...still would like some more detail on the hunt. thx
CPSANDMAN

manny15 · Sep 13, 2004

well where the heck is 30"B, i think them boys owe some one an apology...whats up fellas.......?///....

studpile · Sep 13, 2004

I didn't read the comments or really even give much thought to the post...but I'm sure glad to see somebody setting some of these folks straight. Congrats on a great buck.

nvsportsman · Sep 13, 2004

luckynevadahunter. I will start by saying that I am truelly sorry about the comments I made on the forum about your harvest. I have hunted the Egans in 22 ever since I was a young boy, and to see cameras on the several springs I hunt, and witness several ultralites in the area that takes hours to hike into, has gottin me very upset. It was wrong of me to vent my frustrations on this forum. It was unfair to you, and to the ethical sportsman on this website. My post was stemmed from emmotional love of large muleys and alot of jealosy. I will take my medicine from all of you like a man, because I deserve it. nvsportsman.

manny15 · Sep 13, 2004

>luckynevadahunter. I will start by saying
>that I am truelly sorry
>about the comments I made
>on the forum about your
>harvest. I have hunted
>the Egans in 22 ever
>since I was a young
>boy, and to see cameras
>on the several springs I
>hunt, and witness several ultralites
>in the area that takes
>hours to hike into, has
>gottin me very upset. It
>was wrong of me to
>vent my frustrations on this
>forum. It was unfair to
>you, and to the ethical
>sportsman on this website. My
>post was stemmed from emmotional
>love of large muleys and
>alot of jealosy. I will
>take my medicine from all
>of you like a man,
>because I deserve it. nvsportsman.
>

here.....here....!

scottyboy · Sep 13, 2004

Freakin' AWESOME buck, bro. Don't let anything someone you don't even know get in the way of celebrating your sweet success. Congrats,
Scottyboy

MichaelJ · Sep 13, 2004

Nvsportsman, great post, and at least you have the humility to apoligize. That right there says a whole lot more about you, than how many bucks, or game you've taken. Your alright in my book!

Michael~All Gods creatures welcome... right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.

austin · Sep 14, 2004

nv sportsman,
Ithink most of us can relate with the frustrations you are feeling.
There are lots of things going on the hunting woods today that many of us feel some frustration about.

Glad to see you come on and step up to try to make things right.

luckynevadahunter,
Nice to see a deserving hunter who paid his dues and was rewarded with the trophy of a lifetime. Congratulations on an awesome buck!!

boneaddict · Sep 14, 2004

Great Job! Thats a sweet looking deer. I know I harassed you about shooting it in velvet, but thats a nice looking buck. Did you keep the velvet, or are you going hard bone. Either way, nice trophy. Congrats!

muleybull · Sep 14, 2004

CONGRATS....even though I never talked any trash about it Im still jealouse

Boskee · Sep 14, 2004

Congratulations on the fine buck! Wish I could have been there to see it. You did your homework and made the committment and the proofs in the pudding! Now sit back and enjoy your achievement.