Hell of a buck
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Hornseeker
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Wow, that is a sweet buck, love that height and those forks!!
How about 193ish, gross.
How about 193ish, gross.
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Call me crazy but I believe that buck is over 200 inches. All that mass...and the 4's..geeezzz...I am going to guess 207 or more. Great buck for sure. I didnt even see that picture, thanks BS for pointing it out. Thats an absolute pig.
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BigChicken
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He sure caught my eye too. I thinks his shorter main beams will keep him below 200 but not by much; 198 gross.
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ridgetop
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If thats not at least a 200-205" gross buck, Ill eat my socks. Holy buckets look at those DEEP backs and fronts! Thats in a whole nother class than just your plain old 190" buck. 
Whats the official BUCKSPY photo rackometer reading on him?
Whats the official BUCKSPY photo rackometer reading on him?
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csutton7
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definitely a whopper--great looking, but I have to agree with Big Chicken--I threw this at him--2x22" mains, 2x14", 2x12", 2x 16", 2x2", 2" kicker and 40" mass, 24" inside---puts it right at 198"--he sure looks better though--probably has more mass than I'm allowing and maybe a hair more length, so that would kick him above 200" easily if so--the more you look at him the better he gets---chris
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dakotakid
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I saw him a few days ago whe he was first put up, I think he'd push the tape past 200 as well. Deep forks and great mass.
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csutton7
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-04-04 AT 04:33PM (MST)[p]here's one that's 176 or so for comparison
that muley above is way better than this one--is it 30 pts better??? something to think about--chris
that muley above is way better than this one--is it 30 pts better??? something to think about--chris
LAST EDITED ON Oct-04-04 AT 05:10PM (MST)[p]A brute 4 sure, My extremely low I.Q. won't allow me to add all those #'s in my head, hence I go by the shooter mark & he definitely qualifies.
Also looks to have the big-neck working, but only has 13" ears, eh Buckspy ?
Also looks to have the big-neck working, but only has 13" ears, eh Buckspy ?
Yeh B_F_E, I'd say about 13ish. It looks like he has a growth that looks somewhat like an ear facing back on the left side of his head but its probably just some sort of photoshop alteration.
He must be on Levitra because his neck looks engorged, "for a fuller more satisfying experience".
csutton7-Pretty good guesses. I think the inside spread is 20ish though
Once again. Great shot Darcy! Makes me wish I took it.
He must be on Levitra because his neck looks engorged, "for a fuller more satisfying experience".
csutton7-Pretty good guesses. I think the inside spread is 20ish though
Once again. Great shot Darcy! Makes me wish I took it.
Well, since DK took my gross guess I'll have to give him a little more to the credit of 204" gross. (Looks like I got a fully guided courtesy CO muzz hunt comming up next year from DK since he took my answer! Jk)
Michael~All Gods creatures welcome... right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.
Michael~All Gods creatures welcome... right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.
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cpsandman
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I wouldn't kick em out of bed for eating crackers...errr wait wrong forum. Heck of buck. 190-200...I wouldn't care as long as he was on my wall.
CPSANDMAN
"The Buck stops here...I hope!"
Heck of buck. 190-200...I wouldn't care as long as he was on my wall.CPSANDMAN
"The Buck stops here...I hope!"
Deductions..they work diffrently from typical to non-typical.I have a set of anlters that have 28 in of deductions typical and with those he is 178 and if you score him non-typical he scores over 200. My Q. is how the heck do you get 176 on the other deer. I have many shed anlter sets that are bigger and have a heck of alot more mass than that deer's antlers and they only go 145 and up to 190 typical depending on the set and my 145 set is bigger then that deer.
If you want to know how they score deer boone and crockett has a web page that will tell you how. i think you can even measure your antlers and punch in the numbers for score right on their web sight.
If you want to know how they score deer boone and crockett has a web page that will tell you how. i think you can even measure your antlers and punch in the numbers for score right on their web sight.
I'm a slow learner, but I'm pretty open minded, so you'll still have to explain to me how to get 10 inches of deductions out of a 3 inch cheater.
After looking at that picture again, I think you're right. I can't believe there are so many dipsticks on this website that all agree that the buck in the photo scores in the high 190's gross. They are just a bunch of sheep that are afraid to think for themselves. Its refreshing to get some "outside the box" thinkers around here for a change.
That set of 145 sheds that are bigger than the buck in the photo must be pretty nice.
After looking at that picture again, I think you're right. I can't believe there are so many dipsticks on this website that all agree that the buck in the photo scores in the high 190's gross. They are just a bunch of sheep that are afraid to think for themselves. Its refreshing to get some "outside the box" thinkers around here for a change.
That set of 145 sheds that are bigger than the buck in the photo must be pretty nice.
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DeerKing
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-06-04 AT 06:03PM (MST)[p]LMFAO!! Classic BS sarcasm at its best.
BTW I think the buck grosses in the high 190's as well. BAAAAA BAAAA
BTW I think the buck grosses in the high 190's as well. BAAAAA BAAAA
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BCbucks
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This here dipstick answers -
Score will net in the 190's after deductions.
Score will net in the 190's after deductions.
LAST EDITED ON Oct-06-04 AT 08:07PM (MST)[p]That is one Hell of a 140 class buck!!!! LMAO!!! I guess I need to go back and rescore all the antlers I've ever put the tape on. They're waaaay smaller than I intially thought they were. HeHeHe.
Sorry Redfrog, but I agree with everyone else. Call me a Sheep, "BAAA BAAA", but that there buck is a BOONER. And to varify what that means, check out the B&C's min's on their website.
Sorry Redfrog, but I agree with everyone else. Call me a Sheep, "BAAA BAAA", but that there buck is a BOONER. And to varify what that means, check out the B&C's min's on their website.
its not just in the 3 inchs from one cheater. keep looking closer at the pitcure. he may look really uniform but he does have some differences other than a cheater. such as mass and tine length good mass around forks but from head out to the branches it look a bit weak. there is also some differences in his main beam lenth as well. it starts to add up and before you know you have more than just 3 inchs of deductions from a cheater.
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huntsonora
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That deer is better that 185". If you would please post the measurements on how you come up with 185".
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csutton7
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Redfrog--that's exactly what I did a few yrs back--entered the measurements on the BC site--if I cheated it was in the direction of lesser than more--plus I think we're talking gross here and not net--since very few, if any here are official scorers, mistakes can/will be made, but I didn't make 30" of mistake on my buck--thing is about as symmetrical as they come--he lacks width and has more mass than you think--and I too can't figure out your deduction system-but it's opinions that are being asked here and most are in agreement and you're not--doesn't really matter what the buck scores--it's an awesome set of antlers it has on its head--chris
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Moosie
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BIG BUCK ?!?! I pass those up daily *HEHE*
" i wounld shot that one if i had the chance."
I uhhhh Stutter Some some Some times when I write s .. s ... so forgive me but....Shhhh SHhhhh Shut the FUGG UP !!! There isn't one Dip Chit Trophy hunter willing to pass up a toad like that. Even the Cool and Imfamouse BuckSpy or DeerKing I would guess ?
You must aslo be taeking lesons from The Moosies Skewl of wrighting
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
" i wounld shot that one if i had the chance."
I uhhhh Stutter Some some Some times when I write s .. s ... so forgive me but....Shhhh SHhhhh Shut the FUGG UP !!! There isn't one Dip Chit Trophy hunter willing to pass up a toad like that. Even the Cool and Imfamouse BuckSpy or DeerKing I would guess ?
You must aslo be taeking lesons from The Moosies Skewl of wrighting
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WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
Redfrog,
What you need to understand, mass accounts for a very small part of the total score of a buck. Remember the mass measurements are taken at the smallest point of the H measurement. We are talking 8th's of an inch in score when you compare the symmetry of side to side mass measurements.
Tine Length is where the majority of the score comes from. Deep forks are tell-tale signs of long tines. Csutton7's buck has exactly that. Deep forks that put it in the mid 170's. Now compare his to the one in the photo. The buck in the photo has super long tines and deep deep forks.
What you need to understand, mass accounts for a very small part of the total score of a buck. Remember the mass measurements are taken at the smallest point of the H measurement. We are talking 8th's of an inch in score when you compare the symmetry of side to side mass measurements.
Tine Length is where the majority of the score comes from. Deep forks are tell-tale signs of long tines. Csutton7's buck has exactly that. Deep forks that put it in the mid 170's. Now compare his to the one in the photo. The buck in the photo has super long tines and deep deep forks.
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Moosie
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BCBOY, Do you Honestly think you know more then this Frog ?!?! Please, Give it up, I'm sure there is 40"+ in deducs from mass alone. I'll bet you an Idaho bear hunt, cuz I'm sure you'd go for that
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WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
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[*] -Moosie
[/list]~~If you're going to walk on thin ice, Ya might as Well DANCE !!
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
I don't know. You guys shoot them over bait. Isn't that kinda unethical? I prefer driving roads all day and shooting them as they bail for the thick stuff. HeHeHe!!!
I do admit that I know nothing about scoring deer. I couldn't tell the difference between a 120 buck and a 180 buck. And I know that my measuring of bears sucks too. I don't know the difference between a 4 1/2 footer and a 7 footer. If we had more bears around here maybe I could practice more.
I prefer driving roads all day and shooting them as they bail for the thick stuff. HeHeHe!!!I do admit that I know nothing about scoring deer. I couldn't tell the difference between a 120 buck and a 180 buck. And I know that my measuring of bears sucks too. I don't know the difference between a 4 1/2 footer and a 7 footer. If we had more bears around here maybe I could practice more.
Moosie, what the hell you doing on the muley page, I thought you were banished from here. Kind of slow in tater-land or are you running a continuous search engine ? cause I've been wondering or not if you come up with all your own material, or simply search the net on a continuous basis looking up weird $hit, judging from all the messed-up websites you know about I'm kind of wondering
O-well here one more for you www.bonsaikitten.com
O-well here one more for you www.bonsaikitten.com
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Moosie
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Bannished ? Hell, I have more back door opertunities then you and your Homosexual "FRIENDS". I don't think Exposing the truth about people and Calling a Spade a Spade would get me banished ?
Tater-land is going great. I got a Nice lamb (DID you see that section or do you just come in here and complain about us guys that actually get stuff ?!?! ) and I even took a deer out of Colorado on a whim hunt. Idaho deer and elk coming up :~)
Thanx for the Link. Here is a few in return :
http://www.deathclock.com/
http://www.ratemypoo.com
http://www.dumb.com/pranks.htm
WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
Tater-land is going great. I got a Nice lamb (DID you see that section or do you just come in here and complain about us guys that actually get stuff ?!?!
) and I even took a deer out of Colorado on a whim hunt. Idaho deer and elk coming up :~)Thanx for the Link. Here is a few in return :
http://www.deathclock.com/
http://www.ratemypoo.com
http://www.dumb.com/pranks.htm
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WALK the TALK, Or shut the HECK UP !!
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Hornseeker
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Buckspy, did you ever get over to that B&C page to check out the details on how to score a muley buck??
Redfrog, the differences in symmetry you refer to only affect the "net" score, they dont do diddly squat to a typ vs nontyp. The little 3 inch cheater is the only thing that will make that buck score more or less as a non-typ vs typ. Lets say his frame is 196 net typ, 198 gross typ. He'll score 193 net typ with the cheater and 199 nontyp. Now that I stuck my neck out, I hope I was right!!!!! :0)
Rate my chit.com??? Huh???
Redfrog, the differences in symmetry you refer to only affect the "net" score, they dont do diddly squat to a typ vs nontyp. The little 3 inch cheater is the only thing that will make that buck score more or less as a non-typ vs typ. Lets say his frame is 196 net typ, 198 gross typ. He'll score 193 net typ with the cheater and 199 nontyp. Now that I stuck my neck out, I hope I was right!!!!! :0)
Rate my chit.com??? Huh???
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BCbucks
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Redfrog -
Did you get your measurement just from the half side and forgot to add the other half
Did you get your measurement just from the half side and forgot to add the other half
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cohntr6
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Very nice buck, I hope I can see one like him in a couple weeks! I'll throw in 189 gross and no not to be different. Are we all guessing on a buck that is still alive or are we going to find out his real score?
Jeff
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gil_wy
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Heck-I've got a 182 deer on the wall (Officially scored-BTW) that looks like Bambi compared to that deer. 195-205 net. Tine length differences are deductions regardless of typ vs. non-typ.
