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Has hunting become a rich man's sport? YES or NO?
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elkantler75
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-08 AT 06:05AM (MST)[p]as a resident i spend under 1000 dollars total each year to hunt for both deer and elk. last year i made around 12 thousand dollars so i am definately not rich. so my answer is no.
I think it depends on what you want to hunt, where you live, and your expectations. While it can be a place of those that pay the most $ get the best hunts, Joe Blow can still get out and be successful. Resident tags in Colorado are still very reasonable, as well as availability of tags.
If you are one of the "trophy hunters" or the so called "celebrities with a hunting tv show" it's a big $ game.
If you are one of the "trophy hunters" or the so called "celebrities with a hunting tv show" it's a big $ game.
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Yes & No, depends on your priorities & what one considers a lot of money? Not everyones definition of a lot of money is the same! Too, some are plenty happy with a cow! I personally am happy with a 5-point on up. Others don't feel successful unless it's 340 class or bigger!
Personally, I'm hunting elk everyear no matter the cost. Lifes too damn short not too. Fortunately I live in a state that allows this! (grin)
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Yes & No, depends on your priorities & what one considers a lot of money? Not everyones definition of a lot of money is the same! Too, some are plenty happy with a cow! I personally am happy with a 5-point on up. Others don't feel successful unless it's 340 class or bigger!
Personally, I'm hunting elk everyear no matter the cost. Lifes too damn short not too. Fortunately I live in a state that allows this! (grin)
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Warren
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It always has been. More people travel out of state to hunt now than ever before. These are the good ol' days.
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isayNUNYA
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Just like anything else you can turn it in to what you want and spend as much pursuing it as you like. The price of everything has went up and will continue to do so. This includes your deer and elk permits. Wealthy people have always hunted. It may be publicized more these days but look around, everything is. In todays world you can kill a giant bull on the mountain, somebody can snap a pic phone photo and it can be spread over the internet and on everyones phone before your done packing it out.
Permit fees and auction tags have gone up in price because people who want them are willing to pay it. Each person has his own reasons for hunting. Some do it for nothing more than wanting thier picture on the cover of the lateset magazine. Others just want a activity they can enjoy with thier children. Saying it has turned into a rich mans sport is like saying Automobiles are for the rich. In reality most people spend what they can afford on one. You can drive a Ford focus or an Escalade. Its your choice.
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Permit fees and auction tags have gone up in price because people who want them are willing to pay it. Each person has his own reasons for hunting. Some do it for nothing more than wanting thier picture on the cover of the lateset magazine. Others just want a activity they can enjoy with thier children. Saying it has turned into a rich mans sport is like saying Automobiles are for the rich. In reality most people spend what they can afford on one. You can drive a Ford focus or an Escalade. Its your choice.
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NO, I don't think hunting is a rich mans sport.
I don't consider myself "money rich", but I hunt 3-4 states a year for deer. I do spend about $4000.00 - $5000.00 each year on tags, gas, equipment, taxidermy, etc. to hunt 3-4 states.
I can't afford and never have hunted private land or gone on guided hunts, but the type of hunts I do go on are fun for me.
Some might think $5000.00 a year is a lot, but I don't. It boils down to priority. Hunting is important to me. I would go nuts if I couldn't go on a few deer hunts each fall.
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I don't consider myself "money rich", but I hunt 3-4 states a year for deer. I do spend about $4000.00 - $5000.00 each year on tags, gas, equipment, taxidermy, etc. to hunt 3-4 states.
I can't afford and never have hunted private land or gone on guided hunts, but the type of hunts I do go on are fun for me.
Some might think $5000.00 a year is a lot, but I don't. It boils down to priority. Hunting is important to me. I would go nuts if I couldn't go on a few deer hunts each fall.
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TFinalshot
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-08 AT 10:38AM (MST)[p]it is and it is not. If you hunt the west, your hunt is subsidized by the rest of america. Public lands are the reason there even is affordable hunting at all, and without the public subsidizing the open space we all would be paying big money to hunt. So, it seems to me that due to our rich public lands network (thank goodness for some smart guys in the past)hunting still is an option at all.
However, given the trend of the republican party over the past 25 years, hunting my become a rich mans sport. Over the past three decades, the republicans have tried their hardest to sell off the public domain. In truth, we enjoy mostly free hunting opportunities so long as you can get to some large tracks of public land; and for residents in most states the tags are cheap.
Alternatively, if youre after the big of the big, the trophy class animal, or you dont have time to be a hunter, and or you want to hunt exotic places with guides, I'm quite sure hunting is a rich mans sport.
Lucky for me, a simple DIY hunter, good hunting still can be had for little money.
The question would not even be up for consideration if not for the large tracks of public land in the West. This to me is one reason to rebuke most republican leaders, they would like to sell off much of it. If ever that happened it would become a rich mans sport for sure.
However, given the trend of the republican party over the past 25 years, hunting my become a rich mans sport. Over the past three decades, the republicans have tried their hardest to sell off the public domain. In truth, we enjoy mostly free hunting opportunities so long as you can get to some large tracks of public land; and for residents in most states the tags are cheap.
Alternatively, if youre after the big of the big, the trophy class animal, or you dont have time to be a hunter, and or you want to hunt exotic places with guides, I'm quite sure hunting is a rich mans sport.
Lucky for me, a simple DIY hunter, good hunting still can be had for little money.
The question would not even be up for consideration if not for the large tracks of public land in the West. This to me is one reason to rebuke most republican leaders, they would like to sell off much of it. If ever that happened it would become a rich mans sport for sure.
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Good posts nunya/founder, TF is way off as usual. TF, doesn't it get old always playing the role of a 'victim'?
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-08 AT 12:12PM (MST)[p]
Hey PRO, please tell me how I'm so off base, nothing about what I said is untrue or really that much debatable. But, I'd sure like to hear your side of the issue.
"TF is way off as usual. TF, doesn't it get old always playing the role of a 'victim'"
I dont even understand what this means, please explain. . .
There really is no victoms here, what I said is fact, if you dispute the value of our public lands, and the FACT that those who use and enjoy them are subsidized by the rest of the tax paying Nation you are completely living in a world of untruths or youre willing to ignore how the system really operates, or both. . . in either or both cases, it now is evident to me that Bush never will drop below 29% approval rating as there are people who just do little more than "believe."
Don?t substitute your faith for what your objective mind is telling you is fact. . At the end of the day, you have the right to believe whatever you choose, even if its against the mounting evidenced that there are diminishing numbers of men living on a flat earth. . .
Now, go take on the day. . .
Hey PRO, please tell me how I'm so off base, nothing about what I said is untrue or really that much debatable. But, I'd sure like to hear your side of the issue.
"TF is way off as usual. TF, doesn't it get old always playing the role of a 'victim'"
I dont even understand what this means, please explain. . .
There really is no victoms here, what I said is fact, if you dispute the value of our public lands, and the FACT that those who use and enjoy them are subsidized by the rest of the tax paying Nation you are completely living in a world of untruths or youre willing to ignore how the system really operates, or both. . . in either or both cases, it now is evident to me that Bush never will drop below 29% approval rating as there are people who just do little more than "believe."
Don?t substitute your faith for what your objective mind is telling you is fact. . At the end of the day, you have the right to believe whatever you choose, even if its against the mounting evidenced that there are diminishing numbers of men living on a flat earth. . .
Now, go take on the day. . .
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timberline_shedfreak24
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Definately! Thats why I have that much more respect for the guys like me and my friends take trophys without all the time and money spent!
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I'm guessing it is popular these days to blame everything on politics. If your not satisfied get involved and do something about it. Bill Clinton in his last days in office decided he would give/make large tracks of land in Oregon Monuments. That means no hunting. One of these places is the Steens Mountains. The Steens are considered some of the best if not the best mule deer hunting in Oregon. Thankfully poeple got involved/Senators/and public out cry/ enabled the status to allow hunting.
However I do believe many aspects of hunting take more and more money. I consider myself blue collar. Most people would poop their pants if I told them how much money I spend on hunting in a year: Tag applications, tags, gas, time off, equipment upkeep, ect.If I draw a premire elk tag in Utah or Nevada I will go guided. Just my thoughts, not intending upset anyone.
However I do believe many aspects of hunting take more and more money. I consider myself blue collar. Most people would poop their pants if I told them how much money I spend on hunting in a year: Tag applications, tags, gas, time off, equipment upkeep, ect.If I draw a premire elk tag in Utah or Nevada I will go guided. Just my thoughts, not intending upset anyone.
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In the West you can hunt for almost free. Thank the public land policy for that.
T, Bush proposed selling off certain parcels of pubic land (many of which were landlocked by private land) to help offset the lost income from logging that was lost when Clinton shut down those operations. Logging money was used to finance rural schools in the areas. As a general rule, logging enhanced hunting also.
T, you ought to at least tell the whole story, and let people decide for themselves.
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T, Bush proposed selling off certain parcels of pubic land (many of which were landlocked by private land) to help offset the lost income from logging that was lost when Clinton shut down those operations. Logging money was used to finance rural schools in the areas. As a general rule, logging enhanced hunting also.
T, you ought to at least tell the whole story, and let people decide for themselves.
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-08 AT 02:26PM (MST)[p]please eel, no one is suggesting that land consolidation or equitable transfers are bad or even unwarrented. However, for anyone to disagree that for the past 20 year the republican party has NOT had as it's policy liquidation of the public domain is to ignore the truth. . . One of the main reasons for the FLMPA was to close the "frontier" and therefore the further liquidation of the public domain . . .
I was not trying to avoid the issue, but as we both know, consolidating a bit of land here and there through equitable trages and small scale sales, has little to do with whether hunting is, or is not a rich mans game. . . It does however influence local wildlife, and social policy, and can actually be of some benefit to land managers.
Still, if you hunt public lands, youre subsidized. . .
I was not trying to avoid the issue, but as we both know, consolidating a bit of land here and there through equitable trages and small scale sales, has little to do with whether hunting is, or is not a rich mans game. . . It does however influence local wildlife, and social policy, and can actually be of some benefit to land managers.
Still, if you hunt public lands, youre subsidized. . .
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I think it is all about priorities, but it is definitely getting to be harder to apply for some of the tags. So I'd say it is getting to be.
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I think it's a poor man's sport. At least that's how I feel after I've finished another year of hunting everywhere I can possibly find time and money to hunt.
What else am I going to spend the money on? Might as well enjoy life while you can!
What else am I going to spend the money on? Might as well enjoy life while you can!
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yes and no, want a great tag, or want to hunt sheep or griz, of yeah. Want to got OTC and hunt elk no, want to hutn a premo area, bar getting really lucky and drawing and it is rich mans sport to buy a good tag.
It is getting pricey fast.
It is getting pricey fast.
LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-08 AT 08:23AM (MST)[p]Hasn't been a poor man's sport since the turn of the previous century. It's not a rich man's sport either or everyone would be buying guided hunts. Around here guys are driving newer trucks and have plenty of cash for 4 wheelers and other toys. Like everything else, costs have gone up. No matter what state you live, most of the whining comes from the non residents. I figure, if you can't swing it, take up golf. No pun intended...
yes the cost of hunting is escalating but in no way is it only a rich mans game. It can be rich mans game if you intend to hunt for different species outside the state in which you reside in the same year. For a guy wanting to hunt deer and go out of state for an elk or deer hunt it's still affordable on a DIY basis and guided if you save your money. If you want to put in for multiple states to hunt the price is the deterrent that needs to be there to limit the participation. The fact you are taking away a resident's chance to hunt always seems to get lost in the process. Couple that with the fact that they may not have drawn a tag in 5-6 years and then it makes even more sense.
We just hosted a super bowl out here and people were lining up 10 deep to buy tickets for 2-$4000+ ea. Thousands couldn't buy a ticket! Thousands rented a room for $700.00+ a night and spend thousands more on meals, airfare, and clothing. The cost of a public tag today is a bargain in comparision, that football game only lasted 3 hours! Your costs to apply out of state are reasonable unless you chose to play the game in multiple states and then it's a personal choice. To those that are playing this game and complaining I say this limit your opportunity and you will limit your outlay! If not ante up and quit bitching. It's your choice to play.
We just hosted a super bowl out here and people were lining up 10 deep to buy tickets for 2-$4000+ ea. Thousands couldn't buy a ticket! Thousands rented a room for $700.00+ a night and spend thousands more on meals, airfare, and clothing. The cost of a public tag today is a bargain in comparision, that football game only lasted 3 hours! Your costs to apply out of state are reasonable unless you chose to play the game in multiple states and then it's a personal choice. To those that are playing this game and complaining I say this limit your opportunity and you will limit your outlay! If not ante up and quit bitching. It's your choice to play.
The federal government acually loses money on each timber sale in the west. National forest logging accounts for only 3-5% of the annual timber harvest in the US. Check out this link to see the impacts of logging.
http://www.forestadvocate.org/century/logging/index.html
Not all of the information at the above link was provided by wacko environmentalist groups either. Another example of a few making money at the expense of the taxpayers and the land.
http://www.forestadvocate.org/century/logging/index.html
Not all of the information at the above link was provided by wacko environmentalist groups either. Another example of a few making money at the expense of the taxpayers and the land.
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proutdoors
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TF, are you saying only people who hunt on public land are able to hunt w/o a pile of money? I know many people back east and in the south that are NOT rich who hunt yearly. Wisconsin has how many deer hunters? ARe you saying the bulk of them are 'rich'. Which begs the question, what is 'rich' and why is being 'rich' a bad thing?
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-08 AT 12:02PM (MST)[p]no not at all.
However, as you point out, and rightly so, I should have qualified my reply by with "wild mule deer and elk in the west."
I know little about how whitetail vermin are hunted back east. . .
Sorry for the confusion.
While we are on the subject, care to give us your opinion about "rich mans sport?"
However, as you point out, and rightly so, I should have qualified my reply by with "wild mule deer and elk in the west."
I know little about how whitetail vermin are hunted back east. . .
Sorry for the confusion.
While we are on the subject, care to give us your opinion about "rich mans sport?"
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proutdoors
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>LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-08
>AT 12:02?PM (MST)
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>no not at all.
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>However, as you point out, and
>rightly so, I should have
>qualified my reply by with
>"wild mule deer and elk
>in the west."
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>I know little about how whitetail
>vermin are hunted back east.
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>Sorry for the confusion.
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>While we are on the subject,
>care to give us your
>opinion about "rich mans sport?"
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I'm still waiting for YOUR definition of a "rich man" before I "give my opinion" on it being a "rich mans sport". Answer me that and I'll gladly answer your question.
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>no not at all.
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>However, as you point out, and
>rightly so, I should have
>qualified my reply by with
>"wild mule deer and elk
>in the west."
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>I know little about how whitetail
>vermin are hunted back east.
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>Sorry for the confusion.
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>While we are on the subject,
>care to give us your
>opinion about "rich mans sport?"
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I'm still waiting for YOUR definition of a "rich man" before I "give my opinion" on it being a "rich mans sport". Answer me that and I'll gladly answer your question.
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I hunt year long....call me...RICH..(DOubt that).............Call me poor......... Pretty close(considring my wife say tha & complains all the time........)
NO RICH MAN IS GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY!!!!
I HUNT TO SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS! PLUS I LOIVE THE BONE THAT COME OUT OF IT!!!
MY FREEZER IS FULL HOW ABOUT YOURS??????????????
Plus, the rich man does not EVEN EAT THE MEAT HE GETS!!!!!!!
So tell me WHO IS THE HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lionking
NO RICH MAN IS GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY!!!!
I HUNT TO SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS! PLUS I LOIVE THE BONE THAT COME OUT OF IT!!!
MY FREEZER IS FULL HOW ABOUT YOURS??????????????
Plus, the rich man does not EVEN EAT THE MEAT HE GETS!!!!!!!
So tell me WHO IS THE HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TFinalshot
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cant say what's rich, each to their own, why not ask the guy who posted it to define it for us. . . ?
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proutdoors
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Since you WON'T define it, I'll use MY definition.
I believe hunting is a great bargain in comparison to other hobbies and passions. My wife is big into scrapbooking, I dare say she spends as much over the course of a year for her hobby as I do for mine. I see using the term "rich mans sport" as a nonsensical term. Am I rich because I get to hunt, am I rich because I forgo other expenses to afford hunting, am I poor because I spend my money on Big Gulps instead of saving for new arrows, am I poor because I can't hunt private land in every state every year? Hunting is as expensive as one MAKES it. I don't believe the 'cost' of hunting has out paced the cost of living, so my answer is NO. I do NOT believe it has becaome a "rich mans sport", since I am not rich and I spend hundreds of hours each year 'hunting'. It comes down to each 'hunters' priorities and where he/she choses to spend their hard earned dollars. Skip going and watching the garbage spewed at the movie houses that make millionares out of idiots (actors), spend that money on hunting, problem solved!
There is a saying from the show "Open Range" where Robert Duvall says, "You can't measure wealth with money." I believe that applies to hunting 100%!
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I believe hunting is a great bargain in comparison to other hobbies and passions. My wife is big into scrapbooking, I dare say she spends as much over the course of a year for her hobby as I do for mine. I see using the term "rich mans sport" as a nonsensical term. Am I rich because I get to hunt, am I rich because I forgo other expenses to afford hunting, am I poor because I spend my money on Big Gulps instead of saving for new arrows, am I poor because I can't hunt private land in every state every year? Hunting is as expensive as one MAKES it. I don't believe the 'cost' of hunting has out paced the cost of living, so my answer is NO. I do NOT believe it has becaome a "rich mans sport", since I am not rich and I spend hundreds of hours each year 'hunting'. It comes down to each 'hunters' priorities and where he/she choses to spend their hard earned dollars. Skip going and watching the garbage spewed at the movie houses that make millionares out of idiots (actors), spend that money on hunting, problem solved!
There is a saying from the show "Open Range" where Robert Duvall says, "You can't measure wealth with money." I believe that applies to hunting 100%!
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hogliver
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Great idea, let's rehash this topic again.
What is always so funny about these idiotic threads are the underlying assumptions that (1) being "rich" is bad or dishonorable; and (2) if you are rich, 200 class bucks/400 class bulls just walk the hell up to you and surrender.
If a guy is "rich," 99 times out of 100 it is because he has worked his ass off to get there -- it didn't just fall out of the sky. If that guy wants to use that money to hunt, whether that means hiring (gasp) a guide, or even worse, buying a landowner permit in a premium area, then good for him, he deserves it.
In addition, like it or not, most of those "rich" guys you all love to hate often transfer the same type of drive and work ethic toward hunting that they do toward making money.
The combined effect of hunting hard in a good area is often success. Go figure.
What is always so funny about these idiotic threads are the underlying assumptions that (1) being "rich" is bad or dishonorable; and (2) if you are rich, 200 class bucks/400 class bulls just walk the hell up to you and surrender.
If a guy is "rich," 99 times out of 100 it is because he has worked his ass off to get there -- it didn't just fall out of the sky. If that guy wants to use that money to hunt, whether that means hiring (gasp) a guide, or even worse, buying a landowner permit in a premium area, then good for him, he deserves it.
In addition, like it or not, most of those "rich" guys you all love to hate often transfer the same type of drive and work ethic toward hunting that they do toward making money.
The combined effect of hunting hard in a good area is often success. Go figure.
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"The Federal government is not only spending over 1 billion taxpayer dollars per year to log public forests, but also precious funds to restore the ensuing degradation. The trend must be reversed."
cqh1, this is a quote from the link you provided. How does the Forest Service lose money logging timber that it owns and never paid for to begin with? If a private person can buy land on the open market and log it and make money, why not the Forest Service? The private guy has to re-plant and maintain roads, and protect watersheds also.
It sounds like some funny accounting going on to me. There may be a logical explination, I'm just not aware of it.
Sorry, don't mean to divert your post spikeBull.
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cqh1, this is a quote from the link you provided. How does the Forest Service lose money logging timber that it owns and never paid for to begin with? If a private person can buy land on the open market and log it and make money, why not the Forest Service? The private guy has to re-plant and maintain roads, and protect watersheds also.
It sounds like some funny accounting going on to me. There may be a logical explination, I'm just not aware of it.
Sorry, don't mean to divert your post spikeBull.
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Just like everyone else, I say yes and no.
Yes because if you want to kill a big bull or buck, you have to buy a tag. Drawing a tag in Utah is about a once in a lifetime hunt for elk. Going out of state or buying land owner tags etc. can be, and usually are, expensive.
No because you can put in for or buy the general tags and shoot a spike elk about every year if you get out and scout. You can get a utah deer tag and shoot all the 2points out there like all the other people out there, or see a lot of does. You can enjoy the hunt with the family and not worry about the monster that got away because there are none in the open units (deer or elk).
That is just my opinion. That has been my experience the last several years.
Yes because if you want to kill a big bull or buck, you have to buy a tag. Drawing a tag in Utah is about a once in a lifetime hunt for elk. Going out of state or buying land owner tags etc. can be, and usually are, expensive.
No because you can put in for or buy the general tags and shoot a spike elk about every year if you get out and scout. You can get a utah deer tag and shoot all the 2points out there like all the other people out there, or see a lot of does. You can enjoy the hunt with the family and not worry about the monster that got away because there are none in the open units (deer or elk).
That is just my opinion. That has been my experience the last several years.
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Perfect, another report from a far-left group with no hidden agenda, right? Come on, put the kool-aid down and quit huggung the dang trees, you are going to get slivers in tender spots!
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NO!
The data from the report comes directly from US Dept. of Agriculture and the Forest Service figures. I'm pretty sure that the US Dept. of Ag. and the Forest Service are not considered left wing, considering the amount of logging, mining, natural gas and oil exploration that is going on in Wyoming's National Forests alone. I don't want to sound like a tree hugger, but some conservation efforts are worth the hunting community's support regardless of who uncovers the information.
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Reading some of these post has changed my thinking about being a rich mans sport. I thought it was. But I don't think it is so much any more.
If I golfed as much as I hunted, golf would add up to be a lot more money. Everything in this world costs more money, and you have to work harder to keep up. Same with hunting, it costs a little more as time passes. Just means I have to work harder and give up other things to ensure I can keep up. Its all in how you look at it.
I would say, For the most part its not a rich mans sport.
If I golfed as much as I hunted, golf would add up to be a lot more money. Everything in this world costs more money, and you have to work harder to keep up. Same with hunting, it costs a little more as time passes. Just means I have to work harder and give up other things to ensure I can keep up. Its all in how you look at it.
I would say, For the most part its not a rich mans sport.
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Exactly what Bryan said!
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I have spent some sick money on hunts over the years.Consequently, I have watched friends kill bigger animals on OTC and 0 point and undersubscribed units. I'd have to say it's still very much affordable. Like Founder said, it's a matter of priority.
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Since golf seems to be the analogy, many people think that golf is a rich mans game. The truth is, I can go down the street and play for $18, which certainly isn't beyond the realm of most guys rich or poor. However, there is that other course that costs $200, and if I rent the cart $40 more, with a caddy another $100, a hotel to stay the nite $200...
Bottom line, I can get a resident tag for $20 or put in for other states for much more.
Bottom line, I can get a resident tag for $20 or put in for other states for much more.
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manny15
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if you want quality, then yes it is.....
just wanna hunt and don't mind seeing dinks all day then no!...
Between nonres tag$ increase and fuel increase, land owner tags, then $9,000 for guided hunts, well do the math...
just wanna hunt and don't mind seeing dinks all day then no!...
Between nonres tag$ increase and fuel increase, land owner tags, then $9,000 for guided hunts, well do the math...
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Great way to look at it Outdoordan.
cqh1, my lame computer won't allow me to open pdf files to read that report. So I will concede that point. I will just state that having worked in the timber industry for the past 4o years, I see the benefit to the forest and the wildlife when proper logging takes place. Some places should not be touched, such as parks, and wilderness areas. We have plenty of those. Much of the rest should be managed and utilized in a responsible manner for the benefit of the people, and enhanced for the benefit of all wildlife. Both are very compatable.
Happy hunting! Whether it's a rabbit hunt on public land or a high dollar sheep hunt in Mexico!
Eel
cqh1, my lame computer won't allow me to open pdf files to read that report. So I will concede that point. I will just state that having worked in the timber industry for the past 4o years, I see the benefit to the forest and the wildlife when proper logging takes place. Some places should not be touched, such as parks, and wilderness areas. We have plenty of those. Much of the rest should be managed and utilized in a responsible manner for the benefit of the people, and enhanced for the benefit of all wildlife. Both are very compatable.
Happy hunting! Whether it's a rabbit hunt on public land or a high dollar sheep hunt in Mexico!
Eel
HNTBIGBULLS
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I myself do not think it is a rich
mans sport, to me it has always been
that you can't put a price on a good
time.
After 13 years I drew my elk tag in
Utah, I knew it was coming so I made
sure and saved for it.
I am a resident if Utah, I didn't
gripe about the price of the tag,
what concerned me was the 4 hour drive
to my unit, fuel prices really hurt.
When 3 day scouting trips end up
costing you $250 to $300 dollars
that started to add up.
All in all I figure I was in to my hunt,
not counting days off work, close to
$2000.00.
That being said, I would do it again next
year if I could.
I believe each person sets an amount on
what they can do from year to year, no
matter what there income is.
Just My Opinion!
mans sport, to me it has always been
that you can't put a price on a good
time.
After 13 years I drew my elk tag in
Utah, I knew it was coming so I made
sure and saved for it.
I am a resident if Utah, I didn't
gripe about the price of the tag,
what concerned me was the 4 hour drive
to my unit, fuel prices really hurt.
When 3 day scouting trips end up
costing you $250 to $300 dollars
that started to add up.
All in all I figure I was in to my hunt,
not counting days off work, close to
$2000.00.
That being said, I would do it again next
year if I could.
I believe each person sets an amount on
what they can do from year to year, no
matter what there income is.
Just My Opinion!
backpacker
Active Member
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Hunting in general- no. Everything I want to hunt for: sheep, goat, moose, some other states/maybe other countries depending- yes.
I agree. Nothing against logging. But the very few unroaded places need to be protected. Logging definitely benefits the wildlife in many areas.
Maybe you cannot open the pdf files because you need to download the software that opens the file. You can get the software free by googling "adobe reader" and following the links to the free software.
Maybe you cannot open the pdf files because you need to download the software that opens the file. You can get the software free by googling "adobe reader" and following the links to the free software.
Hunting can be a rich mans sport if he so chooses. If you choose to buy a Governors tag, hire a reputable guide, desire to kill a 200" Buck or 400" Bull. Then YES it is a rich mans sport. BUT you can buy over the counter tags, or wait your turn and have great opportunity of killing and animal in a premium unit and not spend alot of money compared to other hobbies or sports. I spend 8-9 months a year hunting and I definately am not rich. My biggest expense is the fuel which has NOTHING to do with the price of tags. I could choose to hunt closer to home, on a horse or backpack more which would all save me money, but I hunt how I want and hunt as much as I can afford. I wouldn't trade our hunting opportunities that we have in Utah with any other state (Except maybe Alaska or the B.C. Province 
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we_B_huntin
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First off I thank god I was born in a country where I can do one of the things I love which is hunting. That being said, if you look at the rise in the cost of licenses and tags in the past few years in comparison to the cost of living, we're on our way to becoming a rich man's sport.
