HUCKING

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It has been a little slow. I guess there must not be much to argue about. Anyway I thought it might be fun to talk about strategies used to lure elk in close.

How many of you huck?

I don't know if BuglinBilly will show up but he coined the term as far as I know. However it is a strategy/method I have used since the early 80's for enticing elk.
 
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Man you really are bored!! (grin)

I've never called it that in all the years I've done it, but I like it? I just call in using "natural elk sounds" It's like rolling/throwing rocks & stomping & thrashing a tree brush, branches to simulate a bull really working a piece of ground! Often times one can do this in a good area even though he's not heard a sound! Other times it can constitute a challenge or impress the ladies! At any rate it can attract bulls within earshot your way!
It also would be used when in close & challenging a herd bull or making him think there's a scuffle between this so called bull & one of his cows!

ElkNut1
 
It does work...... A buddy of mine coined it the "Hissy Fit" .....I mix in Bull squeels and excited cow calls like Paul described........ Terry
 
"Hucking"?... we always referred to sounding like a herd of elk as "sounding like a herd of elk." Definitely effective though.
 
As far as I know, BB from the bowsite coined this....this has been long talked about over there.....



JBone
 
The term "hucking" was actually coined by the long range shooters over in the long distance forum. Instead of trying to call them in... They were hucking lead accross the canyon.

CS

"Helping turn good tags, into great ones." - VIP Optics
 
"As far as I know, BB from the bowsite coined this....this has been long talked about over there....."

Read the first post..... Mulepacker said the same thing..... Terry
 
My apologies.....I only know BuglinBilly by BB from the Bowsite and not BuglinBilly. After looking at their names on both sites, it is confirmed that they are not only one and the same, but I am CONFUSED!!! Thanks for the heads up.



JBone
 
I have used Hucking before. I use it to sound like a herd milling around, and then I also huck stuff to simulate a bull shredding up the ground, trees, and water. It is very effective on call shy bulls and cows. The more I hunt, the less I use calls. Good luck!
 
I was in the middle of two herds of elk last year but I couldn't get a look at the big herd bull. I went to rake a tree when I looked down and found this:

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I thought why not try? So I started defiling a pine tree with this rack and here comes the second herd right into me. Wind was wrong for them so they made a quick exit. Fun anyway.

Yes, I left the skull there. (I tried to break a brow tine off for a souveneir, but those things are tough. I have the GPS coords if you want to try busting one off.
 
Are we talking about "glunking", the sound a bull makes in his throat when he's checking out a cow's estrus?

If so, Abe and Son's makes a "glunker" that you tap on your hand...it works incredibly well and sucks a bull in so close it can be dangerous!!




Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
 
Slam,

Glunking is a totally different sound which as you said is very effective. I do it by tapping my grunt tube on the end repeatedly.

Hucking is throwing deadfall around, scraping trees with sticks, pulling grass, splashing water, etc. Also very effective on call shy elk. It is most effective on elk holding up and elk within striking distance that you have not made "contact" with yet. Elk get really nervous when they hear calling but can't hear "elk noises" This really gives them confidence. Have a great day.

Chad
 
I just think it's funny that someone is getting credit for coining a new phrase for a really old and time proven hunting method. Come on, surely there are many others of you whose grandad's were old elk hunters that showed you the virtues of "sounding like a herd of elk?"

How about "stinking?" It's a new phrase for the old practice of rolling in fresh cow elk urine during the rut... give me a break...
 
nmelktrout, take your whining some where else.
This threads intent is to discuss alternative elk calling/hunting methods. If you want to come on here and say your grandfather used this method a long time ago and showed it to you and you call it "whatever" then come on and add to the thread. I am guessing BB and myself are old enough to be your grandpa!!! I used the term hucking and gave credit to BB because he was the first I knew of describe it with this word and I liked it. I no where said he invented the process. It appears to me you need an attitude adjustment.
Now for the discussion, yes it is a simple method of making elk noises. Many times when setting up to call I will gather a bunch of rocks limbs etc. to toss/huck over my shoulder and make noise to help convince an elk to investigate. I do not consider raking in my hucking endeavors as it is a method all its own.
As far as "stinking" I guess we can use that as a phrase to. However, to me stinking would explain the sweaty human smell that elk equate with danger.
Now as for rolling in urine or wiping a little dung behind the ears I believe "muskyyyy" describes the enticing odor much better and would be found a little more pleasurable by a big old bull than "stinky".
 
First of all no one is "whining." As for an attitude adjustment? Take it easy there. Having grown up on an old old ranch and having worked as a big game and flyfishing guide for most of my life I am admittedly cynical and do find it humorous when I see new terms used to describe any old method. You've stated you're opinion regarding that term on a public forum and I simply put in my .02 cents, regardless of whether it was in line with yours. And sir, the fact that you know how to use a computer tells me that you're not nearly enough of an old timer to be my grandad. I mean no further offense to you sir, simply letting you know that I'm not just some kid on a computer that is in need of an "attitude adjustment." Now to contribute:

As for "hucking," it can aid in closing the gap on call shy or hung up elk. But, it often requires more to bring in an animal for a final shot beacaue as with calling, elk are still often looking for visual confirmation of what they are hearing. I've had this method backfire in more open terrain where a bull or a cows will come looking for the herd that they hear, knowing that they should be able to see just what is making all that noise. But what happens when that gap is closed by a bunch of cows or a satellite bull that are looking for the other herd and you or your hunter is pinned down and you or your caller(s) can no longer pitch rocks or move around because you have succeeded in drawing the elk into a place where they will see any movement you make? Elk can pinpoint within a few feet of where a noise is being made from and if they can't see what they're looking for, you are about to be busted. We'll use this method ("hucking)to draw elk in and then further the effectiveness of the method by sending a caller or two into a retreat pattern, keeping with the wind and doing their best to keep the hunter downwind yet between the callers and whatever we are trying to call in. Combined with a little cow elk urine and some luck, any variation of hucking can be VERY effective. I've had it work on some big bulls as a result of them following curious cows, but I'm convinced that the biggest and baddest of bulls are rarely called in and are most succesfuly taken by calling for the purpose of location, and the ambushing. Not my favorite method, but also effective for the bull who won't be fooled by his ears.
 
I seldom visit MM, with the exception of the photo section, which I view quite often, but since it was raining today and I wanted to do some outside work, I decided to past a few minutes on the computer.

I was surprised to see the word "Hucking", thus I clicked this thread to see what people were talking about.

I don't know if I'm the one who coined this word or not, but I discoverd this method, which I started calling hucking, because that is exactly what I was doing, when I found out how well it worked.

Without going into great detail, about my first episodes and explaining how it came about, I will say that hucking can be used very successfully at times, with elk who are call shy or quite. I learned the method not by raking trees, which I had done for years, and which I refer to as raking. It really has nothing to do with raking, but can be used in combination with that process. I came upon hucking, quite by accident. I was following a herd of elk with a bull that was bugling non stop. I had not yet seen the herd, but I was closing the distance as they were heading to their feeding area, when I came upon a spike feeding about 30 yards in front me. I didn't want to spook the spike, which I thought might scare the other elk, so I held up and waited. As I waited the bugling bull kept putting more distance between us and I knew would loose the herd if I continued to wait much longer. By this time the spike had fed off to my side and I felt that I could scare him by throwing something out in front of him and make him run in the opposite direction of the herd I was after.

I picked up a stick, about a long and round as my forearm and threw it between him and the vanishing elk herd. It was loud, but he only raised his head and looked and went right back to feeding. I picked up another stick and did the same thing. Again he looked up, but this time he started walking towards me. So I then started picking up what was left around me and started throwing them out in front of him, but he continued to come at me, rather than run away. Soon I was lifting and throwing old dead fall quakies that we 15 or so feet long, all the while moving. I started pulling grass and weeds and threw them up into the air, and yet he came closer and closer.

Long story short, he walked right up to me, even as I made all that movement and noise and stayed there long enough the elk herd I wanted vanished into the distance.

That incident got me to thinking about why that elk behaved the way it did. It just so happened that evening when I was heading towards a distant bugling bull I came upon several cows who were feeding in the same open hillside I needed to cross to cut off the bull. It was getting late, and I knew I didn't have much shooting light left, so I didn't have time to wait out the cows. So again I stared hucking stuff into the air and low and behold those cows heading towards me and walked right up to me as I threw all kinds of stuff into the air. They never spooked until the walked around me and got my wind. After watching those two incidents that day, I knew I was onto something, and have used it successfully ever since. I just call it hucking, as that is exactly what I do. I just huck stuff, like rocks, sticks, deadfall, grass, weeds, and dirt into the air. Many times the elk that you can't call in with a call, will close the distance to excellent bow range. Not all elk will come to every call, nor will all elk come in while you huck, but a good percentage will, so I use it often when I'm on the ground bowhunting elk.

Anyway that's how I stared hucking and why I called it that. That's not to say, someone else called it that, or something else long before I discovered it. I've just called it hucking ever since I discovered it many years ago.

Have a good one. BB
 
Thanks BB and fair enough. I too believe that it can be a damned good method.

Probably a good reason why it can also be so easy to ride up on elk while on horseback...
 
After reading my post from yesterday, it appears I also need an attitude adjustment. I apologize for spouting off, I just had aspirations that his could be a thread where we left the nitpicking outside.
Anyway I was pleasantly surprised that BB joined in. I also was glad nmelktrout took the time to enlighten us on his experiences with "hucking". He is probably correct I am not old enough to be his grandpa, however I would not bet against BB and he uses a computer pretty fair.
As I have matured as a hunter I realize the importance of those who have taken the time to explain, mentor etc. ME, and the role it has played in my success. As I evaluated my goals for 2008 I vowed to be less controversial and more helpful in my website posts. You may have noticed, I have tried to provide threads where discussion could happen hopefully in a manner which nutures learning, I hope to continue in the future.
 
"Hucking", ok not "glunking"...i get it and have done it for several years, just ever called it an official name.

I have learned over the years to make noise when the elk are making noise and actually cow call while i'm walking and deliberately step on sticks & twigs.

If you are TRYING to "sneak" on a bull or a whole heard and make an occasional mistake, they will KNOW you are a predator.

Come in making a little "natural noise", toss in a few cow and calf calls and your in business.

As far as the "hucking", hell yes, rake tree's, bust limbs and flat get after it.....it works. :)







Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
 
Hey silentstalker.....maybe you should change your name to "hucker" if your not so silent!!! hahahahahaha ;-)








Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
 
>>Come in making a little "natural noise", toss in a few cow and calf calls and your in business.



Hey slam, that's exactly what I had been told...use the cow call while moving towards the heard. I've never had a chance to try it though...dang AZ, might be years before I can.
 
Slam,

I might as well be very loud stalker! It seems to be the more true statement! Maybe thats why I do better on elk than deer!!!
 
Excellent post!! I learned a few things, I'll have to be more noisy and throw more suff next time. I guess I have been to timid in my 'hucking'.

I am so glad we can all get along(on this thread-lol)!!


Jeff
 

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