i actually like the hot lips, never have had a problem with it...like someone said a few posts above, i also buy many calls to experiment with...i have a group that goes into the field with me and the hot lips is one of them...i 2nd the mac daddy being junk as well as the push me calls...woodwise hyper hot is a good one as are the carltons fighting cow and estrus whine, i also like rockie jacobsens who's yrr daddy...just buy some and see what works best for you...