Guides on the Nat'l Elk Refuge

[Triple_BB]

If you haven't caught it, the Feds will be allowing two outfitter businesses to operate guiding services on the National Elk Refuge near Jackson this year and next for both elk and bison. This is different than the animal retrieval services that have always been allowed. The Feds are taking comments for or against the proposal through August 20, 2008. Comments can be emailed to: [email protected] which is what comes up when you click on their email address [email protected]. You can also call them at 307.733.9212. The proposal is located at www.fws.gov/nationalelkrefuge

I voiced an opinion against guiding services for elk. There's already enough conflict up there between hunters. The last thing we need is to enter money into the equation. Before you know it we'll have the likes of a Mossback operation with guys running around with two way radios on horseback trying to get their clients the biggest bulls. Or you'll have a couple of guides and some hunter confronting some solo hunter arguing over who shot what bull. Bad idea in my opinion...

 

[YukonDall]

I'VE BEEN ON THAT HUNT WITH FRIENDS 3 TIMES NOW FOR ELK, AND HAVE YET TO SEE ANY PROBLEMS AMONG ANY HUNTERS AFTER ELK....YD.

 

[Triple_BB]

Glad to hear it. Now's yer chance to speak yer peace either way...

 

[YukonDall]

GLAD TO SEE YOU VOICED YOUR OPINION....I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT AS A PRESSING ISSUE.....YD.

 

[huntinco]

Tripple your the most anti guide dude there is.


Justin Richins
R&K Hunting Company Inc.
www.thehuntingcompany.com

 

[cmiddleton]

LAST EDITED ON Aug-16-08 AT 05:20PM (MST)[p] i don't blame him guides think local hunters don't belong around here. they are the rudest people i have ever ran into in the hills. if your not their customer you don't belong in their areas. they helped to close a road into a large tract of blm here in the last couple years 17 sections. they tell you they have the only rights to be on state and blm and even told me they have a lease that makes me not be able to hunt there.
when did the state of Wyoming give hunting leases to state ground? the blm closed the road and made it a walk in area but the ranchers kids are able to play on four wheelers and dirt bikes in there outfitters are hunting coyotes with a plane.
i don't even hunt deer or antelope in there i hunt coyotes in there and shed antlers on the blm.
i was shooting at the archery range and ran into a guide shooting his bow when he started informing me about a area i have hunted longer then he had been alive. i know exactly how the blm and state land lays and am tired of newbies to the area telling me lies when i show them my map they back off.
how many hunters do they intimidate out of hunting spots that they have no right to do?
i know a blm gate they cable shut and lock with no legal right to do so. its not done by the ranchers its done by a outfitter and they have been doing it for years. locking this gate cuts off access to about 10 sections of blm.
I'm with triple bb outfitters around here have caused this kind of feelings. they can't seem to comprehend that state and blm is huntable by whoever whenever they want and the hunting lease pertains to the private land only.
i feel if a ranch locks off blm or state the blm or state should use eminent domain laws and condemn a path into it for public access to public land. you would see a big change in ranchers allowing access.
we could use the access yes moneys to buy access points to public lands too. rather then renting tell them there will be access one way or the other. sell us access or we will take it.
if it was private land locked buy blm, blm would have to let them have access. the coin should roll both ways
as far as the refuge no it shouldn't be outfitted. it will ruin others hunting experience. nobody wants a outfitter confrontation on public lands.
i consider public lands my home so does the castle doctrine apply

 

[d13r]

uh oh, here we go......LOL

JB