I just returned from my buddies Southern Utah LE elk hunt and noticed that about 85% of the bulls we saw had short to very short 5ths. I was wondering if anyone else noticed this same thing this year? I can't remember this being a problem last season. I wonder if it was due to weather conditions or if the bulls just aren't as mature (or both). Many of the bulls seemed to have pretty good to great fronts. Hopefully this isn't a sign of the future that bulls are starting to decline in age/quality from the increase in tags?