A Tool

In another Post that is very very Sad, the subject of escaping from within a Vehicle arose.

For my own personal reasons, I chose to address the above here in a separate Post.

Nothing can be further from the Hollywood images of Action Hero's in running gun battles, pushing out and away, a windshield or beneath waters, knocking out vehicle glass. Be such windshields or door glass, especially with a vehicle upside down, technology has made such safety glass; a formidable wall.

I YIELD to 1911 as this forums expert. My words here have no disrespect and is offered as a Safety consideration to readers to consider.

Since 1980 I and some friends have used an inexpensive tool to shatter most all side vehicle glass in order to remove people.

A few years ago I found some in a tool isle and decided to buy 10 so they were in all Family vehicles and some given as gifts. The most difficult task was finding a spot that it would not come free and fly away in a serious collision. There shall never be a guarantee that such prior plans and good intentions shall manifest in a success.

However, if we come upon an accident and need to rescue passengers (unknown victims) then at a minimum, we shall have this tool available within our own vehicles. Such a rescue may be a Baby forgotten in a Hot vehicle with doors locked and a crowd trying to break the glass. This tool shatters glass but does not use forces that shatters flying glass onto such a Baby.

Below is a Picture of the one I have. I Pray it will never be needed.

Jagerdad

LAST EDITED ON Jun-24-17 AT 06:28PM (MST)[p]yes....that tool is the best...just press against the glass till it releases and "pops"...side or back windows only, the windshield WILL NOT shatter.....of course it is hell on your ears but a 45ACP works too...

better yet get a vehicle with crank windows....

...and if I had to guess, don't be drunk or high when you go into the water.

That tool has been a standard for years. I will say this though, the one time I really needed it, the tool was a complete failure. I got called to a submerged vehicle in a waterway right off the freeway some 15 years ago. When I got on scene, all the water revealed was the tread of four tires poking through the surface of the water.

I grabbed that exact spring loaded glass breaker from my go bag and did a swan dive into the water. I tried 15-20 times to break a side window out and it failed no matter where I put the contact point. Of course being submerged, you can't get any kind of swing with a baton or flashlight to break it out either.

Fortunately, I was able to go underwater and move enough mud from the top of the door that with three of us we could force it open. It was also fortunate that the door was not locked; which with most vehicles nowadays would not be the case. We were able to enter the submerged cabin of the vehicle, cut the seat belt and remove the driver. I re-entered the vehicle to feel for anyone else, especially kids as there was a car seat in the back. It was terror for several minutes clearing the car thinking a child might also be trapped. It was after midnight, there was no ambient light, and the muddy was so stirred up you could not see your hand in front of you face.

This happened in late fall and the temp was quite low. The driver regained vitals and was flown to a hospital. Sadly, the driver had a medical condition which was the cause of the accident, and succumbed to the condition the following day.

Point of my story, that brass window punch still lays on the bottom of that waterway. After the smoke cleared I tossed it into the water like the junk that it was. I've seen them work before so I don't know if it had to do with the water on both side of the glass or what.

I think the better window punch is one that is spring loaded but works on an opposite mechanic. It has a forged finite point and you hold that to the glass with one hand, while pulling back the second half against a spring. When you let the spring go, the energy is forced into the first half like a firing pin. I can't say for certain it would work any better, but it certainly could not fail any worse.

Something to think about. It's like a gun. When you need it you really need it now. Homers suggestion might be the worst on the ears but the best in a guaranteed escape.

....the Utard probably replaced to window at home with plexiglas....

>....the Utard probably replaced to window
>at home with plexiglas....
>
>


EASY There Homer!

We Do What We gotta do Sometimes!







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I've got my own taste and my own ways I'd rather not talk about
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>That tool has been a standard
>for years. I will
>say this though, the one
>time I really needed it,
>the tool was a complete
>failure. I got called
>to a submerged vehicle in
>a waterway right off the
>freeway some 15 years ago.
> When I got on
>scene, all the water revealed
>was the tread of four
>tires poking through the surface
>of the water.
>
>I grabbed that exact spring loaded
>glass breaker from my go
>bag and did a swan
>dive into the water.
>I tried 15-20 times to
>break a side window out
>and it failed no matter
>where I put the contact
>point. Of course being
>submerged, you can't get any
>kind of swing with a
>baton or flashlight to break
>it out either.
>
>Fortunately, I was able to go
>underwater and move enough mud
>from the top of the
>door that with three of
>us we could force it
>open. It was also
>fortunate that the door was
>not locked; which with most
>vehicles nowadays would not be
>the case. We were
>able to enter the submerged
>cabin of the vehicle, cut
>the seat belt and remove
>the driver. I re-entered
>the vehicle to feel for
>anyone else, especially kids as
>there was a car seat
>in the back. It
>was terror for several minutes
>clearing the car thinking a
>child might also be trapped.
> It was after midnight,
>there was no ambient light,
>and the muddy was so
>stirred up you could not
>see your hand in front
>of you face.
>
>This happened in late fall and
>the temp was quite low.
> The driver regained vitals
>and was flown to a
>hospital. Sadly, the driver
>had a medical condition which
>was the cause of the
>accident, and succumbed to the
>condition the following day.
>
>Point of my story, that brass
>window punch still lays on
>the bottom of that waterway.
> After the smoke cleared
>I tossed it into the
>water like the junk that
>it was. I've seen
>them work before so I
>don't know if it had
>to do with the water
>on both side of the
>glass or what.
>
>I think the better window punch
>is one that is spring
>loaded but works on an
>opposite mechanic. It has
>a forged finite point and
>you hold that to the
>glass with one hand, while
>pulling back the second half
>against a spring. When
>you let the spring go,
>the energy is forced into
>the first half like a
>firing pin. I can't
>say for certain it would
>work any better, but it
>certainly could not fail any
>worse.
>
>Something to think about. It's
>like a gun. When
>you need it you really
>need it now. Homers
>suggestion might be the worst
>on the ears but the
>best in a guaranteed escape.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





So 1911?

You Ever Tried Homers Advice Under Water with the 45?






[Font][Font color = "blue"]Ah yes we have insider trading and computer dating but I never goin for that!
Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
I've got my own taste and my own ways I'd rather not talk about
and my private life is my private life and they ain't gonna find out!

>....the Utard probably replaced to window
>at home with plexiglas....
>
>


In 1980 I Built A Windshield for Our Snowmobile out of 1/4" Plexiglas!

Never Broke it again!







[Font][Font color = "blue"]Ah yes we have insider trading and computer dating but I never goin for that!
Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
I've got my own taste and my own ways I'd rather not talk about
and my private life is my private life and they ain't gonna find out!

This is a metal punch tool we use in sheet metal to mark your metal for layout and cutting it.

They tell me this tool will work on any glass except for laminated glass. I have experience with this because my wife has an older Cadillac, and they tried to break into the car but couldn't break the glass. They just cracked it. It also cost me a pretty penny to fix the damage as the laminated glass is more expensive.

In San Francisco where they break into cars at an alarming rate this is the go to tool.