nuts4bucks
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So I have a Remington 700 chambered in 300 weatherby. My question is what would be some improvements to increase accuracy at long ranges? I would like to get it to where I can feel comfortable out to 700 yards.
Accuracy improvement?
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tailchasers
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Practice and realize your personal abilities. Some folks just can't shoot that far even with a great rifle ad a solid rest.
"Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyway."
"Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyway."
BIGJOHNT
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How does your rifle group at 100 yards ? If it doesn't group well enough you can stop there. Or take it to a gun smith. Re barrel it and true the bolt face and lugs. You can add on more from there. If you need help finding a gun smith. Tell us your area and we can help you find one. The 300 Weatherby is a awesome round. You maybe more comfortable with a muzzle break. To tame that beast. My daughter has a Mark 5 300 weatherby mag. My grandpa shot one most of his adult life and killed his last elk with it at 92. So I am a little partial to that caliber.
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BigJohnt it's shoots well at 100 yrds. When I shoot a 3 shot group the first 2 will cut each other's hole and the 3rd is about 3/4" high and left but that might be me. That's using a lead sled off a fold up table. It's topped with a vortex viper hs lr 4-16x50. I'm shooting weatherby select plus 180 accubond factory ammo.
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If its the 3rd shot drifting, check to make sure you barrel floats. Run a dollar bill down the barrel to the lug. If it dosnt slide freely., use a dowel and sandpaper and sand all the tight spots out. Dont ooverdo it. Check to ensure all your screws are torqued to spec. These are a simple starting points, give them a try .
elkassassin
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A 300 W will Fry Eggs after shot number 3!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
Lhedrick1
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I've having similar issues with my .270 Weatherby Mark V. It was shooting boomerang shaped patterns, going from dead center and hitting high and right to left counter clockwise. I sanded the stock so I can get a dollar bill all the way to the receiver. It now will shot 5 shot groups that are about 1/2" wide left to right but the 3rd, 4th and 5th shots climb. I've been told to wait 3 minutes in between shots.I've been told to do a good cleaning with solvent and copper remover. And I've also been told to ditch the lead sled. I guess some people have cracked their stocks due to all the pressure coming back to the grip. Other people have said sandbags are more accurate to shoot off of. I gave mine a good cleaning yesterday and hopefully will get some shots in today. I will see if the cleaning alone helped and if not, will try waiting 3 minutes in between shots and post the results.
After much reading and advice though, I'm reaching the conclusion that it is a magnum hunting rifle and I should probably be satisfied with a 1" 3 shot group.
After much reading and advice though, I'm reaching the conclusion that it is a magnum hunting rifle and I should probably be satisfied with a 1" 3 shot group.
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Some very good suggestions above. All spot on.
Does the gun have a muzzle break?
When working on accuracy issues I believe in keeping the barrel as cool as possible. After the 2nd shot I think you will need more than three minutes between shots to cool it down.
I would get rid of the lead sled if you can handle the recoil with shooting bags. I use the Caldwel adjustable front rest with a leather bag and a leather rear bag. I bought the bags empty and filled them with number nine lead shot and they are rocksolid.
Hope this helps
Some very good suggestions above. All spot on.
Does the gun have a muzzle break?
When working on accuracy issues I believe in keeping the barrel as cool as possible. After the 2nd shot I think you will need more than three minutes between shots to cool it down.
I would get rid of the lead sled if you can handle the recoil with shooting bags. I use the Caldwel adjustable front rest with a leather bag and a leather rear bag. I bought the bags empty and filled them with number nine lead shot and they are rocksolid.
Hope this helps
Lhedrick1
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Supposedly there are stories of rifles cracking at the grip area. I think you can Google it. I guess the recoil pounds the grip area due to the way the gun sits in the sled. My sled slides on the table after each shot and the rifle isn't strapped to the sled so I doubt I would have the problem. But I think for someone strapping the sled to a table and the gun to the sled with a large caliber rifle, it's plausible.
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NVBighorn
Not using a lead sled may be more of a personal thing than anything else.
I started out using a lead sled and did have the wood butt stock break on a BAR 300 WinMag.
After that I quit using the lead sled and got the shooting bag set up I pictured above.
The shooting bags are just as solid as a lead sled IMO.
The only drawback is you have to take the recoil on your shoulder but I think it makes me a better overall shooter.
I think the bags give me a better feel for the gun and the trigger pull as well.
As far as sighting in a rifle or working up a loud it probably doesn't make any difference either way. Like I said just a personal thing.
Not using a lead sled may be more of a personal thing than anything else.
I started out using a lead sled and did have the wood butt stock break on a BAR 300 WinMag.
After that I quit using the lead sled and got the shooting bag set up I pictured above.
The shooting bags are just as solid as a lead sled IMO.
The only drawback is you have to take the recoil on your shoulder but I think it makes me a better overall shooter.
I think the bags give me a better feel for the gun and the trigger pull as well.
As far as sighting in a rifle or working up a loud it probably doesn't make any difference either way. Like I said just a personal thing.
elkassassin
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>I'm curious why the recommendations about
>not using the Lead sled.
>What is the effect of
>using one? I've wondered in
>the past.
Don't worry about it with the Guns You Shoot!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
>not using the Lead sled.
>What is the effect of
>using one? I've wondered in
>the past.
Don't worry about it with the Guns You Shoot!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
Go to Matches like these:
https://www.youtube.com/user/SHLowlight/
If you do not compete in Matches, how good are you truly. Matches make you learn and as you learn, possibly someday you might be good.
Jagerdad
PS: Lead Sleds are the dumbest thing I could see someone use, let alone: Buy.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SHLowlight/
If you do not compete in Matches, how good are you truly. Matches make you learn and as you learn, possibly someday you might be good.
Jagerdad
PS: Lead Sleds are the dumbest thing I could see someone use, let alone: Buy.
Matches like these did not get onto my above post.
Here is just one:
2019 Sniper's Hide Competition in Colville, Washington
This year the Snipers Hide Match will allow both individual and team shooters. As always it will be a two-day match. Taking place in Colville Washington and hosted by Carl Taylor of In Motion Targets. This match will follow a similar format to the Karsetter Event held in the same area. Match Fee will be $200 per shooter and registration will open shortly. The dates for the event are June 22nd and 23rd 2019. Compete as either part of a team or individually the choice is yours. This is a field event, so plan on walking and carrying your equipment from stage to stage. Older and Disabled Shooter can use transportation via a 4 wheeler if necessary.
Jagerdad
Here is just one:
2019 Sniper's Hide Competition in Colville, Washington
This year the Snipers Hide Match will allow both individual and team shooters. As always it will be a two-day match. Taking place in Colville Washington and hosted by Carl Taylor of In Motion Targets. This match will follow a similar format to the Karsetter Event held in the same area. Match Fee will be $200 per shooter and registration will open shortly. The dates for the event are June 22nd and 23rd 2019. Compete as either part of a team or individually the choice is yours. This is a field event, so plan on walking and carrying your equipment from stage to stage. Older and Disabled Shooter can use transportation via a 4 wheeler if necessary.
Jagerdad
And, Take SPECIAL Note to options on the Right.
If "YOU" desire, to be a shooter at the TOP, walk into this WORLD........
https://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-national-matches/national-matches-calendar/
(Or be a backyard blaster with Zero earned Skills)
Jagerdad
If "YOU" desire, to be a shooter at the TOP, walk into this WORLD........
https://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-national-matches/national-matches-calendar/
(Or be a backyard blaster with Zero earned Skills)
Jagerdad
Here I Flop a Giant... PS.
If you do not begin Rifle shooting with a SCATT MACHINE, you shall soon understand...If you CARE about Top Accuracy.... That USA Men are the Poorest Shots; On Earth.
No American Practices the Art (Discipline) of Handgun or Rifle Marksmanship as does All of Europe + China.
I have heard every excuse under the Sun. It boils down to...YOUR INTEREST LEVEL and self dedication.
a SCATT Machine will/could teach you more in private, faster than any Credit Card to but a top Built Handgun or Rifle. But Americans shun air Rifles/Handguns which = their Demise from age 10 forward.
Females are better in all shooting disciplines. Europeans know this and have Matches where Females are limited so they NEVER BEAT a MALE.
I better Stop typing. None of you will Care.
See:
Jagerdad
If you do not begin Rifle shooting with a SCATT MACHINE, you shall soon understand...If you CARE about Top Accuracy.... That USA Men are the Poorest Shots; On Earth.
No American Practices the Art (Discipline) of Handgun or Rifle Marksmanship as does All of Europe + China.
I have heard every excuse under the Sun. It boils down to...YOUR INTEREST LEVEL and self dedication.
a SCATT Machine will/could teach you more in private, faster than any Credit Card to but a top Built Handgun or Rifle. But Americans shun air Rifles/Handguns which = their Demise from age 10 forward.
Females are better in all shooting disciplines. Europeans know this and have Matches where Females are limited so they NEVER BEAT a MALE.
I better Stop typing. None of you will Care.
See:
Jagerdad
Cahunter805
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Ditch the lead sled for sure! To many inconsistencies created by them. Use a rear bag and either a bipod or front rest.
I would bed the recoil lug and tang, rework the trigger if it's a walker style or replace it with a Trigger tech, freefloat the barrel, check the front ring screw to make sure it's not bottoming out on the barrel threads and then practice and practice some more!
Either start handloading or test a few different factory loadings at longer range also.
I would bed the recoil lug and tang, rework the trigger if it's a walker style or replace it with a Trigger tech, freefloat the barrel, check the front ring screw to make sure it's not bottoming out on the barrel threads and then practice and practice some more!
Either start handloading or test a few different factory loadings at longer range also.
