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Jul-09-16, 
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"What would this bull score?"

Saw this bull while looking for deer. He had me excited.

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: What would...  BUGLEnmIN      Jul-09-16   1 
  RE: What would...  khunter      Jul-09-16   2 
 RE: What would...  Rimrock      Jul-09-16   3 
  RE: What would...  desertpoint...      Jul-09-16   4 
   RE: What would...  BUGLEnmIN      Jul-09-16   5 
    RE: What would...  Rimrock      Jul-09-16   6 
     RE: What would...  headshot05      Jul-09-16   7 
      RE: What would...  BUGLEnmIN      Jul-09-16   8 
       RE: What would...  Servehim      Jul-10-16   9 
 RE: What would...  oilcan      Jul-10-16   10 
  RE: What would...  berrysblast...      Jul-10-16   11 
   RE: What would...  BUGLEnmIN      Jul-10-16   12 
 RE: What would...  Bonehead13      Jul-10-16   13 
  RE: What would...  hornkiller      Jul-10-16   14 
   RE: What would...  Servehim      Jul-10-16   15 
    RE: What would...  Rimrock      Jul-11-16   16 
     RE: What would...  cmbbulldog      Jul-11-16   17 
      RE: What would...  Gator      Jul-11-16   18 
       RE: What would...  UGAhunter      Jul-11-16   19 
        RE: What would...  Vanilla      Jul-11-16   20 
         RE: What would...  Largebull      Jul-11-16   21 
          RE: What would...  BLooDTRaCKeR      Jul-12-16   22 
 RE: What would...  TheKnack      Jul-13-16   23 
  RE: What would...  Dikndirt      Jul-13-16   24 
   RE: What would...  TOPGUN      Jul-13-16   25 
    RE: What would...  berrysblast...      Jul-13-16   26 
     RE: What would...  SDBugler      Jul-13-16   27 
      RE: What would...  Shadow      Jul-13-16   28 
 RE: What would...  teamhuz44      Jul-19-16   29 
 RE: What would...  wstrntines      Jul-20-16   30 
  RE: What would...  Roy      Jul-26-16   31 
 RE: What would...  NPHunter      Jul-28-16   32 

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BUGLEnmIN
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Jul-09-16, 
01:18 PM (MST)
1. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Hard to tell, if I had to guess in the pic 270 is maybe

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khunter
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Jul-09-16, 
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2. "RE: What would this bull score?"

>Hard to tell, if I had
>to guess in the pic
>270 is maybe

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Rimrock
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Jul-09-16, 
06:21 PM (MST)
3. "RE: What would this bull score?"

LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-16 AT 06:50 PM (MST)

LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-16 AT 06:31 PM (MST)

Need another angle to judge his width, but I'd put him in the 330-340 range. Pretty good beam length. Nice bull...

Rimrock

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Jul-09-16, 
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4. "RE: What would this bull score?"

>LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-16
>AT 06:50 PM (MST)

>
>LAST EDITED ON Jul-09-16
>AT 06:31 PM (MST)

>
>Need another angle to judge his
>width, but I'd put him
>in the 330-340 range.
>Pretty good beam length.
>Nice bull...
>
>Rimrock


330-340 is way off at his very best a 300" bull

Beautiful bull though if he is a Utah Otc bull I would not hesitate and would be very happy with him nice find founder if I had to guess he is an extended archery bull you are eyeing

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BUGLEnmIN
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Jul-09-16, 
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5. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Oh ya 330-340 is WAYYYYY OFFFFF!!!!!!! 300 AT BEST IS BEONG WAYY GENEROUS HAHa,but more realistic.

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Rimrock
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Jul-09-16, 
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6. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Buglenmin and Desertpointbrian,

Well, you both obviously have a much better eye than I do. My guess could certainly be wrong. Why don't you break down how you arrive at your estimated scores, so I can learn from you...

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Jul-09-16, 
08:42 PM (MST)
7. "RE: What would this bull score?"

42" beam
6" 5th
12" 4th
5" 3rd
12" second
12" first
22" mass
=111x2=222+30" spread
252"

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BUGLEnmIN
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Jul-09-16, 
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8. "RE: What would this bull score?"

>42" beam
>6" 5th
>12" 4th
>5" 3rd
>12" second
>12" first
>22" mass
>=111x2=222+30" spread
>252"


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Servehim
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Jul-10-16, 
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9. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Granted this bull falls way short of 330-340 , however I'm of the opinion he will score much closer to 280 than 252. Founder, waiting for GPS coordinates so that one of the MM team can actually put a tape on him. Good basics going for this bull if he survives 2-3 years.

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oilcan
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Jul-10-16, 
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10. "RE: What would this bull score?"

IMO no way he's over 290

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Jul-10-16, 
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11. "RE: What would this bull score?"

I'd bet he's close to a 300" bull.

185" frame with an average of 11" tine gets him to 290" and I bet that's pretty close. Not hard to get when you sit down and look close

Beams 48"
Mass 50"
Spread 37"
Frame-183"

G-1 13
G-2 13
G-3 8
G-4 14
G-5 8
Tine total-112

295"

Strikes me as about that caliber of bull anyhow

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BUGLEnmIN
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Jul-10-16, 
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12. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Sticking with 270 on this one guys haha . Maybe 280 HIGHEST END

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Jul-10-16, 
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13. "RE: What would this bull score?"

I think he is flirting with 300"

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Jul-10-16, 
06:35 PM (MST)
14. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Shoot on this site he is pushing 373"!

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Jul-10-16, 
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15. "RE: What would this bull score?"

LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 11:46 PM (MST)

Correct me if I'm wrong ....but with the exception of one poster, this site has him scored from 252 to 300. Just saying 😀

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Jul-11-16, 
06:39 AM (MST)
16. "RE: What would this bull score?"

And that one poster can see that I overestimated him. Live and learn...

At least we know the all caps key and exclamation points still work for some folks

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Jul-11-16, 
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17. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Decent fronts, but from the 3rd's up, that bull is pretty average to weak for a mature bull. I dont think there is any way that bull is 300. I would venture to guess closer to 270, maybe 280 tops if the MB's are longer than I think.

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Jul-11-16, 
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18. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Will finish close to 300" IMO (90%)of the tag holders would be happy with him.

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Jul-11-16, 
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19. "RE: What would this bull score?"

Since I have never been able to break the 300" mark, but have killed a few 270-280 bulls, I am pretty good at judging these small bulls, haha. Add my guess that he'll finish up at 270.

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Jul-11-16, 
07:20 PM (MST)
20. "RE: What would this bull score?"

290-ish. I think berrysblaster is very close with his guestimations.

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Jul-11-16, 
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21. "RE: What would this bull score?"

He doesn't score enough to shoot if You have an AZ. tag Good for most States..............BULL!

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Jul-12-16, 
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22. "RE: What would this bull score?"

If it is an extended Wasatch front bull, score doesn't matter. The fact that he is a nice six point bull on a general season area is enough. The majority of hunters hunting on public land general season areas consider that bull a trophy. I know I do! I would hang that bull on the wall if I killed it on a general season public land area! That bull is the equivalent of killing a 390" bull on a limited entry unit.

Nice bull!

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Jul-13-16, 
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23. "RE: What would this bull score?"

275-285 I would guess.

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Jul-13-16, 
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24. "RE: What would this bull score?"

That Bull would go 290 all day long. My guess is that he is within an inch or two of 300...and still possibly going to grow a little on 4th and 5th. Looks like a wyoming bull if I had to guess.

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Jul-13-16, 
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25. "RE: What would this bull score?"

LAST EDITED ON Jul-13-16 AT 03:35 PM (MST)

IMHO the guesses of around 270" are a lot closer than anyone saying that bull is 300" or better. His fronts are very nice, but his beam lengths are not great and his thirds are very weak to come close to or break 300". The last bull a friend took with his bow scored 285" and got him a P&Y certificate. It was better than this bull at least at this stage of this ones growth and he's probably not going to put much more on other than his tops before he sheds his velvet that also makes him look better than he really is.

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Jul-13-16, 
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26. "RE: What would this bull score?"

It's really neat how different guys see different things. Topgun here went exactly the opposite of what I thought, I thought his fronts were his weakest points and his beams were his best asset

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Jul-13-16, 
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27. "RE: What would this bull score?"

280 - 285
I think berryblaster was pretty close in his evaluation but just a little generous

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Jul-13-16, 
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28. "RE: What would this bull score?"

I think berrys numbers are spot on except I'm thinking 45-46 on the beams. 285-290. Anyone remember when a bull like this in Utah was a stud?

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Jul-19-16, 
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29. "RE: What would this bull score?"

He may finish out around 300 but right now he's probably 275

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Jul-20-16, 
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30. "RE: What would this bull score?"

I shot a bull years ago on an otc unit about the same size as he looks to be now he was 260. I think he may tape out at 280-300"
Definately worth shooting on an otc unit.

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Jul-26-16, 
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31. "RE: What would this bull score?"

He scores exactly "let him walk".

Unless it an open bull tag - then blast away!

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Jul-28-16, 
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32. "RE: What would this bull score?"

A average mature/big bull has a 200" main frame. Deduct 10" for main beam length, 8" for width and around 7" for him being light on his mass and that's a 175" main frame. 45" main beams, 32" wide and 26.5" of mass per side.

10" G1
13" G2
8" G3
12" G4
7" G5


This puts him at 275"

No way that bull will make 300", He will be a very nice bull in a couple of years though. Depending on the area I was hunting I may let him walk, he defiantly wouldn't be a bull I would plan a hunt around.

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